Havok and Rattler....New Q500 Kits
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I am just finishing up a new Havok......ready for clear. This plane was drawn by Dan Kane and will be available from Joe Tropea very soon. This kit has a slightly different construction making it almost impossible not to build dead straight. The quality and design of the kit are phenomenal......parts fit is spot on. The Havok has a 66-012 airfoil and will be available with a sheeted wing with skinned hinges, horns installed and CF reinforced trailing edge (I believe). The Rattler is the same fuse designed with a wing saddle that accepts a Viper wing. Hope to get this one in the air within the next couple of weeks and will post a flight report. Here is a link to some pics of my build thread on NEPRO
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RE: Havok and Rattler....New Q500 Kits
Havok, really? They couldn't come up with an original name?
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ORIGINAL: HighPlains Havok, really? They couldn't come up with an original name? Is there a Havok already available from someone else?? |
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Hey cbk07, Very nice did you get my pm on how much biult ready to be covered......Thanks
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ORIGINAL: qm40dego Hey cbk07, Very nice did you get my pm on how much biult ready to be covered......Thanks I believe he is only offering it in kit form |
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Ok Thanks .....
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Looks great and they are both names in the proud tradition of Quickie names.
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Sorry about the double post.
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ORIGINAL: HighPlains Havok, really? They couldn't come up with an original name? HaVoK, is what I named it because it is a modified version of my HurriKane. Hence the H for Hurri and the K for Kane, and the V for version. So to answer your question yes it was original. If you had one with this same name, I appologize. DK |
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Looks the same as my HurriKanes but with a bigger and higher aspect ratio tail. Is there any other difference?
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Denis,
There are other subtle differences. The major being the construction method. I moved away from the 1/64th ply doubler from the nose to the trailing edge and used light ply instead. Changed the servo arrangement, for better CG fit. Changed the construction method for the fuselage to make it next to impossible to build it crooked. DK |
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Yes I can see in the pictures what you did. I have built about 5 HK fuselages and a couple of Seekers and wouldn't think you could build a crooked one but I guess if the fuselage sides were very different in stiffness it could be a problem. The way you have it now should even take care of that.
Denis |
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Looks very nice.
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Got some clear on it. Just have to cover the wing and will get some flights on it.
I have built Seekers, Hurrikanes, Vortex's, Intimidators, etc. Like Dan said, the differences are subtle but really do make the build foolproof. The fuse sides are only 1/8" thick, but with all of the interlocking parts and 1/8" doublers it feels extremely rigid. With the quality of todays laser cutting, these things just keep getting easier to build. I am still waiting to find one that is mid-air proof!! |
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Thanks for the explination Dan. I designed a plane and called it Havoc back in 1995, and had been flying one off and on since then. It has appeared in several threads here on RCU with pictures. Your HurriKane was a clever name for a design, and I was always partial to my Thumper design (which was so named because of my last name as well). Maybe I'll call my next design the ShatterKane because of my farming ocupation and what happens to quickies in the end.
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Highplains, again, there was no attempt to steal your thunder. Seriously, HaVoK was born from "a" "V"ersion "o"f "H"urri"K"ane nothing more nothing less. And yes name your next one "ShatterKane" or whatever other "S" word you choose to use.
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Well, not Any other "S" word: Scorpion is taken!! :D ;)
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Well Scat was already taken.
Due to the polymorphic nature of Quickie design, little is unique other than the name. Wings somehow crawled from underneath the fuselage to the top side when builders assembled Spickler Quickie 500 kits with the fuselage turned over, V-tail's got put on to hide cheating on engines, and fuselage aerodynamics were evenually developed to lower drag by changing the accepted design practice. The beat goes on. |
RE: Havok and Rattler....New Q500 Kits
ORIGINAL: HighPlains Well Scat was already taken. Due to the polymorphic nature of Quickie design, little is unique other than the name. Wings somehow crawled from underneath the fuselage to the top side when builders assembled Spickler Quickie 500 kits with the fuselage turned over, V-tail's got put on to hide cheating on engines, and fuselage aerodynamics were evenually developed to lower drag by changing the accepted design practice. The beat goes on. Agreed DK |
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Bob,
I didn't realize you had a name for your planes, I just called them "Runts". If you really wanted to be accurate with the name... "Left Lane Exit" would've been appropriate considering their takeoff characteristics :) |
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My callers all look left - throw left.
And I did have a variation that we called the Runt with a 13/4" nose and 6" between the wing and tail. It was the former AMA 428 National Record Holder, which must have been the result of some kind of rift in the space time continuum. |
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which must have been the result of some kind of rift in the space time continuum. |
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So when and where will kits be available?
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I believe the laser cutting was done this week and the wings are in process. I will check with Joe for contact info and availability and post here
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You can contact Joe at [email protected] for availability info
Got my wings covered....just need to install a tank, rx, battery and tie up a few loose ends |
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Craig:
I would like to publicly thank you for building and completing the very first Havok kit. As always, you've done an awesome finishing job. The plane looks absolutely incredible. Now hurry up and fly it so I can start talking smack! [:-] |
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any flight reports?
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Sorry for the delay
I did get three flights on it last week. Plane flies just like it should. Felt ready to race after two flights. I am starting to build number two now |
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Plane looks great, CBK07! Awsome job! That V-tail sure looks like the Sam-Rai's V-tail... I'm sure Sam-Rai Racing is very flattered by that.....</p> |
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Thanks for the compliment.....definitely the nicest building Quickee I have ever put together. The parts fit is amazing and it is pretty much impossible to build crooked. Joe just got another run of them in stock for the winter building season (along with the Rattler which is the same plane designed around the Viper wing). We have been racing them succesfuly here in NEPRO for a couple of months now.
As far as the V-Tail goes, no reason for Sam-Rai Racing to be flattered. Pretty sure there were plenty of Quickee designs with a 120 degree V-tail featuring a swept leading edge and straight trailing edge long before they came around;) |
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ORIGINAL: extramaster1 Plane looks great, CBK07! Awsome job! That V-tail sure looks like the Sam-Rai's V-tail... I'm sure Sam-Rai Racing is very flattered by that.....</p> Boy I sure do hate comments like this. [:@] The tail is not copied from the SAM-RAI airplane. DK |
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ORIGINAL: kane ORIGINAL: extramaster1 Plane looks great, CBK07! Awsome job! That V-tail sure looks like the Sam-Rai's V-tail... I'm sure Sam-Rai Racing is very flattered by that.....</p> Boy I sure do hate comments like this. [:@] DK |
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