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Old 05-24-2011, 06:22 AM
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Is there anything besides a wheel collar to keep a wheel on the axle?
I have a tight space, and the wheel collar it's using too much of it.
I considered a bend at the end of the axle, but is there anything else?
Could I solder a washer on the axle? Our would that just break?

Thanks!
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I have soldered a washer on many times - just be careful not to melt the wheel!
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I soldered a thin washer for my tailwheel. Works great.
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I soldered a thin washer for my tailwheel. Works great.
Exactly my application: a retractable tailwheel.
The dang wheel collar gets caught and prevents retraction / extension.

Thanks Gentlemen. I'll give that a shot.
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Soldering was the only way before the invention of the wheel collar. You can do it like WW1 guys do it. Solder a brass tube on the music wire with about an 1/8" of the tube proud of the wire. Solder a washer for the back of the wheel to ride on. Drill a small hole in the open end of the brass tube. Put wheel on then a washer and slip a cotter pin in the drilled hole. Looks good too.
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you can try these. They work great. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXYUU6&P=7
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Default RE: is there anything besides a wheel collar?

Have you tried Papco Pushnut Fasteners
the 5/32" part # is 242-408
3/16" is 242-410
These flat, round type, spring steel fasteners are pushed on unthreaded rods, studs, etc. Used on
nameplates, moulding studs and shafts.

Stock No. Stud Size Outside Diameter Stock No. Stud Size Outside Diameter
242-401 1/16 .195" 242-413 .240 17/32"
242-403 3/32 .195" 242-414 1/4 17/32"
242-406 1/8 3/8" 242-416 5/16 5/8"
242-408 5/32 7/16" 242-418 3/8 3/4"
242-410 3/16 7/16" 242-422 1/2 1"

NOTE: I still use a wheel lock collar but push one of these on after as additional security
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Default RE: is there anything besides a wheel collar?

If you choose to solder a washer onto the wire cut out a piece of thin cardboard and position it between the wheel and the washer. After soldering, remove the cardboard bit. Silver solder has a much lower melting temp than the old plumbing or electrical solder. Also cools to a very high gloss surface.

Good luck.
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I usually use a piece of 1/8" ply with a channel cut out the width of the axle. let the washer rest on that and it protects the wheel from the heat and gives you a nice spacing to the washer.
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thx daven - better idea ...
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I have use a piece of brass tube and drilled a hole through the tube and axel then just made up a pin to hold it on, sort of like a cotter pin. Works well if you have a drill press.
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Freedom from the tyrnny of the wheel collar[8D]
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Where do you get that soldering iron from?!?!

There is a museum somewhere missing one of its prized possession's!!
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I call that my Racing iron-because of the way it makes the power meter 'Race'

I have used that iron since I was a young grasshopper. It came from Vultee Aircraft, Downey Ca. when my pop worked there late thirties and early forties.
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Default RE: is there anything besides a wheel collar?

Hey JohnB - what specific type of solder do you use for your artwork?
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Default RE: is there anything besides a wheel collar?

It can be frustrating to do, But..I have even drilled a hole thru the piano wire gear and used a washer and cotter pin.

Slow and steady on the drill press, and multiple small bits...Piano wire is NOT what it used to be ...
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Something tells me John likes to solder.
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Default RE: is there anything besides a wheel collar?

With a soldering iron like that, I would have an extension cord running over to the neighbors house.
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Default RE: is there anything besides a wheel collar?

Fuel Tubing is your friend.

wheel, washer and 5mm bit of fuel tubing keeps the wheel on nicely. I also place a few drop sof thin CA glue just for insurance. Easy to remove, light weight and low labour costs
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Default RE: is there anything besides a wheel collar?

I have a soldering iron just like that. It dims the light in my shed whei plug it in. T akes a while to heat up and all day to cool.
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ORIGINAL: cremation101

I have a soldering iron just like that. It dims the light in my shed whei plug it in. T akes a while to heat up and all day to cool.

LOL that is very funny.
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Default RE: is there anything besides a wheel collar?

Don't forget that JB Weld is just as strong as solder and you won't melt your wheels when using it. Just roughen the axle a bit and clean with a good solvent(acetone). JB Weld your washer in place and in the morning it is done. If the JB Weld is not applied so it looks as pretty as you would like, then after it has set you can sand or file away the part you don't like. There is also JB Weld Quik if you are more in a hurry.
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Default RE: is there anything besides a wheel collar?

SeamusG for piano wire I use only Acid Core and of course Rosin core for electrical.

Yea GB I like to solder maybe its the instant gratification over something like JB Weld, that stuff ya gotta wait a whole day before it works unless ya use the Quick set and that is so brittle it won,t hold anything.

One great use for JB Weld though is to put a big gob of it on the valve cover of your four strokes mounted inverted. The ones where its likely to be used as a brake. Got into that habit racing warbird pylon since the YS valve covers were twelve bucks a pop.

An extension cord to the neighbors shed is a great idea cept they all moved away Hmmmm.

John

Oh ya, don't forget my iron is also a 'racing iron' cause it only takes half a day to heat up Hmm comes to soldering tips size is everything[X(]
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Hi!
Stay-Brite is King!
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