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Old 06-23-2011, 07:48 PM
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Hello i have been flying with the orginal DX6 for over 6 years.I had my first bad experience when i made a pass 100ft over the river.She locked out and put me in the drink.I swore i would never fly over water again and have had hundreds of flights since then with not one lock out or glitch.I chose to fly my new Spitfire over the same river 6 1/2 years later about 180ft flying toward me she locked out again and rolled into a right turn into the water.No recovery was possible.Is this something we should worry about?Info will be helpful.Thanks Dean Borchin.
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Old 06-23-2011, 08:25 PM
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Default RE: Is there more chances of a lock out over water 2.4?

I don't have a definitive answer for you, but there are countless flyers (myself included) that float fly over water with out any lock out issues. I seriously doubt that the water had any bearing on your troubles.
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Old 06-24-2011, 02:02 AM
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Hello i have been flying with the orginal DX6 for over 6 years.I had my first bad experience when i made a pass 100ft over the river.She locked out and put me in the drink.I swore i would never fly over water again and have had hundreds of flights since then with not one lock out or glitch.I chose to fly my new Spitfire over the same river 6 1/2 years later about 180ft flying toward me she locked out again and rolled into a right turn into the water.No recovery was possible.Is this something we should worry about?Info will be helpful.Thanks Dean Borchin.

This is one of the reasons why I stick to 72. Most of my stuff is over 8 years old and I haven't had one glitch yet. I doubt that the water had anything to do with it either but I wouldn't rule it out.


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Old 06-24-2011, 02:16 AM
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Default RE: Is there more chances of a lock out over water 2.4?

Myself and others have not had a problem with 2.4 on float planes.
However, you are using a DX6 which is not a full range system and that may be the problem. The DX6 is a park flyer system even though I had real good range on the one I had.
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Old 06-24-2011, 03:00 AM
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Default RE: Is there more chances of a lock out over water 2.4?

I heard something about water a few years ago....but I can't remember if it was 72 or 2.4......or if it was surface or air......my old club the downwind leg is over a pond and they don't have an issue
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Old 06-24-2011, 04:12 AM
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Default RE: Is there more chances of a lock out over water 2.4?

Boat guys had some issues years ago.

That said, even if the boat guys were having issues down on the water, I doubt you would have a problem caused by water if you were flying over it.

If its a Dx6 that is a park flyer radio, if its a DX6i then it's full range.
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I have been flying float planes ever since 2.4 came out. I have never had a glitch over water or land for that matter. Same goes for my friends with whom I fly. I use nothing but 4.8 batteries, but high amp. My radios have been flawless from the day I bought them.
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We float fly once a week out here and just about everyone has changed over to 2.4 for float flying. The is no problem with 2.4 itself using a full range radio.
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Hello i have been flying with the orginal DX6 for over 6 years.I had my first bad experience when i made a pass 100ft over the river.She locked out and put me in the drink.I swore i would never fly over water again and have had hundreds of flights since then with not one lock out or glitch.I chose to fly my new Spitfire over the same river 6 1/2 years later about 180ft flying toward me she locked out again and rolled into a right turn into the water.No recovery was possible.Is this something we should worry about?Info will be helpful.Thanks Dean Borchin.
It just dawned on me. Why do you keep flying over the river?
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Old 07-27-2011, 10:15 AM
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There is a chance that a 2.4 radio will brown or lock out over water. Read this:

http://www.modelairplanenews.com/blo...he-discussion/


The Author really knows what he is talking about and was printed on the front page of Model Airplane News. I will not ever buy a 2.4 unless it's for indoor flying only. I'll only use the tried but true 72 for my aircraft.


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Old 07-27-2011, 10:33 AM
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Default RE: Is there more chances of a lock out over water 2.4?

Do you listen to your 8 track tapes while you're flying?

(that was joke, not a personal attack)
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Default RE: Is there more chances of a lock out over water 2.4?

In theory, he may be correct. But my practical experience for the past 5 years does not prove his asertions. I have experienced multi-path and radio interference from a broadcast station on 53 and 72 MHz but not detected on 2.4. What he does not address is that the 2.4 stuff sends the data much faster than the previous methods. Therfore, some data can be lost and the pilot will never know it. I fly all sizes of planes from 10 inches to 14 feet and also water planes for several years.
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Default RE: Is there more chances of a lock out over water 2.4?

That article has been used to thrash 2.4 for a while. There are many people, myself included, that have never had any trouble with 2.4. That being said, there is a grain of truth to what the author said. There is a saturation point for 2.4 transmitters in any given area. The Joe Nalldisaster was case in point. The problem is no one knows of any reliable way of telling what that point is. I regularly fly around 8-10 people and there has never been a problem at our field. The Nall, with 100 or so transmitters on at a given time, people lost planes.

I am not posting this to start an argument, there is plenty of weenie-wagging going on everywhere else. That is not my intention.

I fly both 72 and 2.4. They both have their issues. Be informed.

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Default RE: Is there more chances of a lock out over water 2.4?

Well said Scott
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