Go Back  RCU Forums > RC Airplanes > Questions and Answers
Reload this Page >

Antifreeze engine cleaning

Notices
Questions and Answers If you have general RC questions or answers discuss it here.

Antifreeze engine cleaning

Old 10-27-2011, 12:44 PM
  #1  
SCOTT42
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 535
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Antifreeze engine cleaning

Ok, so im about to start my first of two engine rebuilds tomorrow, once I get the engines apart I want to give them a good cleaning. Ive heard of useing a crock pot with antifreeze but have never used it myself. How would I do it? Just add the antifreeze and parts and turn it on and set and forget for a while?I know to keep it away from pets and such, but not sure how to use it as a cleaner. Thanks Scott
Old 10-27-2011, 12:56 PM
  #2  
BarracudaHockey
My Feedback: (11)
 
BarracudaHockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 26,979
Received 345 Likes on 276 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

Use it on LOW

Use the old, plain, cheap, green antifreeze.

Dont ever cook food again in the crockpot and mind the fumes.
Old 10-27-2011, 01:51 PM
  #3  
eagledancer
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 1,032
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

and DONT put carb in with the engine!!! ask me how i know!
Old 10-27-2011, 03:41 PM
  #4  
SCOTT42
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 535
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

Ok, but how long is normal to cook them? One day? two days? Only hours?
Old 10-27-2011, 04:16 PM
  #5  
Gray Beard
My Feedback: (-1)
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hemderson, NV
Posts: 14,396
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

usually over night. Some longer. A soft wire brush is a big help too.
Old 10-27-2011, 04:37 PM
  #6  
SCOTT42
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 535
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

Ok thank you beard, ill have it out in my garadge which is my hobbyroom, should I worry bout the fumes getting in the house and have to deal with an angry woman?
Old 10-27-2011, 04:41 PM
  #7  
SCOTT42
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 535
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

I forgot to ask, do yall use the 50/50 diluted, or prediluted antifreeze? I can get the 50/50 from work at no cost but will have to buy the other.
Old 10-27-2011, 05:56 PM
  #8  
RCVFR
My Feedback: (7)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Keller, TX
Posts: 2,051
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning


ORIGINAL: SCOTT42

I forgot to ask, do yall use the 50/50 diluted, or prediluted antifreeze? I can get the 50/50 from work at no cost but will have to buy the other.
I have only used the undiluted version. It is reusable many times over, I have had the same gallon for years. I have never kept parts in overnight, usually a few hours is all that's needed. Especially baked on crud may require a second treatment. A small (non metal) brush is usefull to scrub the part. I use discarded toothbrushes for this.

Be sure to remove any rubber parts (O rings, gaskets, etc) as they don't take the heat too well.

Old 10-27-2011, 06:10 PM
  #9  
HighPlains
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Over da rainbow, KS
Posts: 5,087
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

I run with water added, 50% or less it works fine. Have used the same batch for years. Usually end up cleaning the parts in the ultrasonic cleaner after the antifreeze, then bake in the oven at 225 to quick dry parts before oiling and assembly.
Old 10-27-2011, 06:43 PM
  #10  
Gray Beard
My Feedback: (-1)
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hemderson, NV
Posts: 14,396
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

Straight old anti freeze. Smell isn't bad but you can never use that crock pot again for cooking. Most people just buy an old one at a swap meet for modeling use. If it belongs to your wife you may want to give it more thought.
Old 10-28-2011, 07:54 AM
  #11  
bob62
My Feedback: (28)
 
bob62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Bay City, TX
Posts: 474
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

Electric tooth brush works good
Old 10-29-2011, 07:42 AM
  #12  
Texas Don
Junior Member
My Feedback: (5)
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Cleveland, TX
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

Use the low heat setting, not high. I purchased my crock pot new at Target for around $9. For that price there's no need to chase one at a consignment store. I've done it with both 50/50 mix and straight antifreeze. I've use the green and orange types. I can't tell any difference at all and some of the engines that I've rebuilt were badly discolored with baked on oil/fuel residue. So just use whatever mix is convenient for you. I currently use the orange at full strength because it's what is most readily available and both my vehicles use it. The reason I use the low heat setting is that I've read some discoloration of the aluminum parts can occur when using the high setting. I can't verify that since I opted to just use the low setting. No need for high anyway since the low setting does the job. I just put the parts into the pot with the solution at room temperature. Turn it on and leave it for 12 hours or so. Remove the parts one at a time and work them over with a nylon toothbrush. The crap just dissolves with this method.
Old 10-30-2011, 06:43 AM
  #13  
OldScaleGuy
My Feedback: (2)
 
OldScaleGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Reidsville, NC
Posts: 2,933
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

Another product that works well is Dawn Power Dissolve. I get mine at Walmart. No crock pot needed, safer for children and pets. Let the part(s) soak in a small dish and use a brush to remove the crud. I use an old tooth brush.
Old 10-30-2011, 09:48 AM
  #14  
mvallyman
My Feedback: (32)
 
mvallyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Port Orchard, WA
Posts: 218
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

I would'nt recomend using it in the garage atached to the house or otherwise. Set it outside, animals wont drink it if its still hot. I store mine just inside the garage door when cool.
Old 10-31-2011, 02:35 PM
  #15  
SCOTT42
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 535
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

Thank you everone for the input, I havent used it yet and will this next weekend, a fellow from my club tried it the other day and it turned his engine black. Is that from cooking it to hot? Or to long or both? Thats what worrys me at this point, what can be done to fix it if it does turn black?
Old 10-31-2011, 03:48 PM
  #16  
Texas Don
Junior Member
My Feedback: (5)
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Cleveland, TX
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

Too much heat will turn it black. That's why you use the low heat setting. I've gone up to 12 hours on the low setting without any blackening of engine parts. That is plenty long enough to remove even the most stubborn residue. Once the part has turned black, bead blasting is the only thing that I know of that will restore the bright finish back to shiny.
Old 11-02-2011, 05:24 PM
  #17  
SCOTT42
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 535
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

Does it do any good just turn the unit on and get it good and hot and then unplug and let set? Im not gonna leave it turned on overnight while i sleep and cant spend the day with it while I work. The crock pot I have is the small one with no temp settings, its on or off thats my choice.
Old 11-03-2011, 04:45 AM
  #18  
Edwin
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Leander, TX
Posts: 6,204
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

I put mine on an appliance timer. I usually check at 4 hours to see how the progress is. If its heavy, then over night it is and the timer will turn it off. Remove the rubber in the carb. I use a sifter with a fine screen for the small parts.
Edwin
Old 11-03-2011, 04:26 PM
  #19  
SCOTT42
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 535
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

Well I cooked my first engine and it turned out nice and clean, Ive got the parts in the oven bakeing right now and about to start replaceing the bearings, wish me luck!Ive got about four more engines that need a good cleaning and bearing replacement soon.
Old 11-03-2011, 06:51 PM
  #20  
TeamMuir1
My Feedback: (-1)
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Shepherdsville, KY
Posts: 204
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

I just started this process with a muffler of mine...
Actually I started another thread and just ran into
this one.
so I thought I would touch base with what I did.
for the first 2 hours I had on HIGH heat....
I noticed an immediate difference, and the color of
the antifreeze I used was Green.. Prestone.
I CHANGED the Antifreeze....with fresh I could
understand if someone just left it in the crockpot and
didnt change the fluid,,,, MY fluid was NASTY BLACK.
thats what would change the color of the metal
by baking the black into it. all metal is pouras.
so I would look at the color of your fluid and change
it once it turns black.. Now my muffler was so caked on
with grime that you couldnt even see the metal
and in 2 hours I only had small speckles of grime
so I changed the fluid and turned the heat down to
WARM instead of HIGH .
I hope that helped ya some.
Old 11-16-2011, 03:34 PM
  #21  
warbird lover
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: shreveport, LA
Posts: 82
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

Hi Scott,

I have had good luck cleaning my engines with
cascade washing powder.

I bring the water up to boiling, add 2 - 3 teaspoons of Cascade,
put the disassembled engine parts in, and turn the heat to low boil. The length
of time depends on how dirty the parts are until they are clean.
The longest amount of time for one of my engines was 10 minutes
and it was nasty.

DON'T USE CASCADE WITH LEMON SCENT. It will discolor the engine.
I know from experence. An aluminum pot will discolor the parts too.
Use a steel pot and the parts will shine.

Reference:

http://www.airfieldmodels.com/inform...aintenance.htm

Warbird Lover
Old 11-19-2011, 07:19 PM
  #22  
jetpack
My Feedback: (1)
 
jetpack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Hobart, IN
Posts: 2,477
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

EZ-Off has oven cleaner that is safe on aluminum now.

Strips carbon and baked castor like nothing else in seconds. Fresh water rinse.

I dont mess with the antifreeze anymore, waste of time.
Old 11-20-2011, 07:41 AM
  #23  
markhamregular
Senior Member
 
markhamregular's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Pembroke Pines, FL
Posts: 470
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

Jetpack,

Then if I use the EZ-Off I do not need to take the engine apart?
I am not really handy, and I am afraid nbot to be able to make it right after.
I am looking at a simple way to clean.

Thanks,

Old 11-20-2011, 08:15 AM
  #24  
jetpack
My Feedback: (1)
 
jetpack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Hobart, IN
Posts: 2,477
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default RE: Antifreeze engine cleaning

Oh okay, I gotcha. Yeah i guess the best way is what people been saying then. I've heard nothing but good things about that Dawn power dissolver. Just take off the carb and plug that plus your exhaust and give it a go. Those PVC colored end caps you can find by the nuts and bolts drawers at the hardware store is good for that.

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.