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    Which way to smoke?

    Trying to decide on which smoke system to go with. I've heard both pros and cons from users and witnesses of both TME and the Skywriter. The most I've heard the TMEis less of a pain to set up but the Sullivan Skywriter puts out more smoke. I'm going for Sean Tucker "airshow" type smoke, not the simple puff you get fro a 4S when you get on the gas. As I am a geek, I don't mind a little "within-reason" tinkering to ge it set rightthat's what we do in this hobby anyway right (at least REAL hobbyists anyway)? I'm just wondering if anyone has any input as to if the tinkering needed with either one is beyond reasonable versus the final result, how well rates can be programmed/controlled, failure ratesthat kinda stuff? Engine is a DLE 55.

    ANDPLEASE: Real world, RELATIVE responses only!

    Thanks all in advance!

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    RE: Which way to smoke?

    I don't know adout the TME one but the Skywriter works great, setup is a bit of a pain with the radio but it works. Just have to follow the instructions.

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    RE: Which way to smoke?

    I have a TME smoke pump and it has been nothing but problems. As far as setting it up with the radio, no problems. You use the end points to control how much fluid it pumps into the muffler. The first couple of flights were perfect. She put out good smoke and functioned as designed. Then the problems started. It takes forever to prime it and then it only pumps when it wants to. I have pulled it in and out of the plane so many times, it should be on wheels. I have checked everything that can be checked as far as the plumbing goes and I cannot find any problems. I did get a Sullivan pump and I am in the process of changing it out so I will be able to give a report on that in the next couple of weeks. Good Luck, Dave
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    RE: Which way to smoke?

    I have a Sullivan Streamer on my fuel can.
    It works wonderful and never a priming problem.
    I don't know the differences between this and the Skywriter.
    I only mention this in support of Sullivan products; hope it helps.

    Good Luck,
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    RE: Which way to smoke?


    ORIGINAL: KW_Counter

    I have a Sullivan Streamer on my fuel can.
    It works wonderful and never a priming problem.
    I don't know the differences between this and the Skywriter.
    I only mention this in support of Sullivan products; hope it helps.

    Good Luck,
    KW_Counter
    Ok, again, I am asking about smoke systems for an airplane. I am NOT talking about a pump to get the oil into the tank, I am talking about the system that actually pumps the oil to the muffler. Thanks all that paid attention for your very informative responses. Looks like its a tossup given all the variables, as I've heard and read successes and failures from both.

    Actually got some really good, useful info here, thanks guys,

    Happy Flying!


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    RE: Which way to smoke?

    Harris makes the best smoke pump IMO. A guy at my field tried them all and now he uses Harris, so do I.

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    RE: Which way to smoke?

    djmp,

    I was not speaking in specifics about a can pump.
    From what I can see the Streamer and Skywriter are similar cases.
    I believe the Skywriter is designed to pump smoke to the muffler.
    In addition, they make a Streamer designed for smoke fluid and diesel.

    Before you jump on someone for trying to help I suggest you get your facts straight!

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    RE: Which way to smoke?

    I'm using a SonicTronics pump.Easy to set up and very light. Can be run on 4.8- 7.2 volts so I use a lipo to power it. The price was resonable compared to some others. http://www.advantagehobby.com/77025/SOT1261/
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    RE: Which way to smoke?

    Get my facts straight? Ok, hows this:

    FACT: I specifically asked about differences between a Sullivan Skywriter, and the TME system.
    FACT: You wrote that you have a "Sullivan Streamer on [your] fuel can" (your words, not mine), so yes, you were speaking pretty specifically about a can pump.
    FACT: The Skywriter is an on board smoke pump to get smoke oil to the mufflerthe Streamer is a pump to get oil into the smoke tank that feeds the pump (though, I'll give that if you rig it enough, you can use it as a smoke system for a plane).
    FACT: You said that you "don't know the differences between this and the Skywriter." again, your words, not mine (looks like I'm not the one with non-straight facts).

    FACT: Ido appreciate your input and willingness to help (seriously), and I was not jumping on you, I was simply pointing out what the original question was. I notice here that most times, the original question gets forgotten because people eventually get away from the point of the thread and introduce subject that has nothing to do with what the OP was asking about. Case in point, there have already been two other brands introduced into the thread, neither of which are Sullivan or TME. Again, no face-smack to them for their input, just those do not answer the questions I had.

    Straight enough?

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    RE: Which way to smoke?

    I am using the Skywriter pump with a DLE 55 and it works great. I am using a Futaba 9z with the ratesat 100% onrate A and45% on rate B on the gearchannel. It was very easy to set up on my 9Z and several guys at the field are using it with JR systems as well. 100.00 bucksfor everything you need, ( except the Streamer .lol.sorry I could'nt help it) I say go for it!! HTH, Rotten Out!!!
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    RE: Which way to smoke?

    Good grief my friend! Slow your roll maybe?

    Just saying....

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