Why most modellers prefer left counterclockwise turns with their planes?
03-18-2014, 01:56 PM
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You are replacing the yaw/slip indicator with nose above or below the horizon. Since we are not in the plane, we have to make our best guess on whether our turn is coordinated or not. I would agree if you said "if the nose is lagging" versus "above the turn."
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03-18-2014, 01:58 PM
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Around here, most make right turns.
It really depends on wind, and field orientation.
Say that the runway runs norh/south. The wind is out of the north. The flying station is on the west side of the runway.
You take off into the wind, and turn right, to avoid flying over back, the pit area. This is the start of a right hand pattern. All turns will be to the right.
Now, same field, same wind, but the flting station/ pits are on the east side of the runway. You take off, and turn left, to avoid flying over your pits and flying station. This is a left hand pattern.
It really depends on wind, and field orientation.
Say that the runway runs norh/south. The wind is out of the north. The flying station is on the west side of the runway.
You take off into the wind, and turn right, to avoid flying over back, the pit area. This is the start of a right hand pattern. All turns will be to the right.
Now, same field, same wind, but the flting station/ pits are on the east side of the runway. You take off, and turn left, to avoid flying over your pits and flying station. This is a left hand pattern.
03-18-2014, 02:31 PM
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Most and I mean the majority of R/C pilots don't know how to use rudder. I fly in an area where the prevailing wind is from the West. This direction forces you to make CW landing pattern. Try flying a helicopter without using rudder and see what happens. Without the helicopter experience I would be among those who never learned to fly with rudder.
03-18-2014, 02:45 PM
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In flying our rc models -coordinated turns don't really mean squat
Knowing when and how to use rudder is important of course
Try learning to do rolling circles inside then outside rolls- left hand then right hand circles
Knowing when and how to use rudder is important of course
Try learning to do rolling circles inside then outside rolls- left hand then right hand circles
03-18-2014, 06:14 PM
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Keeping the plane in the middle of the runway is what landing is all about. Banking the plane instead of YAWING the plane causes the plane to loose lift and TIP STALL close to the ground witch starts a serias of things that lead to a poor or bad landing at best and a crashed plane at worst.
03-19-2014, 06:47 AM
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I remember some CHP motorcycle cop telling me that he could tell a right handed rider from a left handed rider by the wear on the front tire. Right handed riders would be much more aggressive in LEFT turns, and wear out the left side of the tire more.
Les
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03-19-2014, 10:34 AM
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I like to take off to the left and land from the left at my feild becouse 8-10 times we got a head on cross wing (blowing towards my face) so wind don't matter, but I like the left side of my feild becouse in lading there are less tress and I can come in lower, and I like to take off that way becouse again less trees. lol
03-19-2014, 10:49 AM
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So question, As I have never had an instructor, are you saying one should try to keep the wings level in the finail approch?
Is this manly true for Top Wing Trainner/cub planes?
As I fly manly gaint war birds, and the thought of the added drag in the finail approch with rudder would worrie me.
Is this manly true for Top Wing Trainner/cub planes?
As I fly manly gaint war birds, and the thought of the added drag in the finail approch with rudder would worrie me.
03-19-2014, 01:53 PM
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Nah, I don't buy any of it!!
It's Coriolis effect...it's natural to make left turns in the northern hemisphere just as Tornados and Hurricanes do. In the southern hemisphere, it's natural to turn right, as Typhoons do. Any other turns are learned.
Heck, if you look really close, servos behave the same way.
It's Coriolis effect...it's natural to make left turns in the northern hemisphere just as Tornados and Hurricanes do. In the southern hemisphere, it's natural to turn right, as Typhoons do. Any other turns are learned.
Heck, if you look really close, servos behave the same way.
03-20-2014, 07:04 AM
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"As I fly manly gaint war birds, and the thought of the added drag in the finail approch with rudder would worrie me."
Rudders were invented to control yaw, i.e., direction. Since the tail will move with the application of rudder, there will be insignificant additional drag.\
Les
Rudders were invented to control yaw, i.e., direction. Since the tail will move with the application of rudder, there will be insignificant additional drag.\
Les
03-20-2014, 09:48 AM
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I can take-off, fly, land in either direction so it doesn't really matter to me which way, just as long as it is in relationship with what the wind is doing. My preference though is left turns but I've made it a habit to fly both just so I can keep up current with both left and right.
03-20-2014, 09:51 AM
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Nah, I don't buy any of it!!
It's Coriolis effect...it's natural to make left turns in the northern hemisphere just as Tornados and Hurricanes do. In the southern hemisphere, it's natural to turn right, as Typhoons do. Any other turns are learned.
Heck, if you look really close, servos behave the same way.
It's Coriolis effect...it's natural to make left turns in the northern hemisphere just as Tornados and Hurricanes do. In the southern hemisphere, it's natural to turn right, as Typhoons do. Any other turns are learned.
Heck, if you look really close, servos behave the same way.
03-20-2014, 05:24 PM
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Those that have never flown full scale have Little Idea of the proper use of the rudder ...
R/C planes do not act like Full Scale Especially Trainers. They fly (TURN) well with out the use of rudder . For those that have at least some Full Scale Flight training remember your flight instructor saying "Step on the Ball" that ment that witch ever side of the ball in the turn coordinator or turn and bank instrument was on (left or Right of center) was the Rudder peddle U pushed to center the ball so your turn was coordinated and keep your Butt from sliding out of the seat.
LOW pressure areas south of the Equator Turn in the opposite direction as Northern hemisphere.
Toilets in the northern and southern swirl right hand because that is how they are made ...Any Aussies out there care to comment?
R/C planes do not act like Full Scale Especially Trainers. They fly (TURN) well with out the use of rudder . For those that have at least some Full Scale Flight training remember your flight instructor saying "Step on the Ball" that ment that witch ever side of the ball in the turn coordinator or turn and bank instrument was on (left or Right of center) was the Rudder peddle U pushed to center the ball so your turn was coordinated and keep your Butt from sliding out of the seat.
LOW pressure areas south of the Equator Turn in the opposite direction as Northern hemisphere.
Toilets in the northern and southern swirl right hand because that is how they are made ...Any Aussies out there care to comment?
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03-21-2014, 07:32 AM
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"Contrary to popular misconception, water rotation in home bathrooms under normal circumstances is not related to the Coriolis effect or to the rotation of the earth, and no consistent difference in rotation direction between toilets in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres can be observed. The formation of a vortex over the plug hole may be explained by the conservation of angular momentum: The radius of rotation decreases as water approaches the plug hole, so the rate of rotation increases, for the same reason that an ice skater's rate of spin increases as they pull their arms in. Any rotation around the plug hole that is initially present accelerates as water moves inward."
04-22-2014, 10:28 PM
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Most circle track racing on the other side of the world is clockwise too.
The pattern at my old field (Bayside, Fremont, Ca) was dependent on the wind and we had too many midair's by people flying against the pattern so learn to fly from both ends after all, wadayado when you have a dead stick at the wrong end of the field?
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The pattern at my old field (Bayside, Fremont, Ca) was dependent on the wind and we had too many midair's by people flying against the pattern so learn to fly from both ends after all, wadayado when you have a dead stick at the wrong end of the field?
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04-23-2014, 04:36 AM
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Carlos - "too many midair's by people flying against the pattern"?? Enforcing the agreed-upon flying pattern (whatever it is that day, depending on wind) a pretty basic duty of all members at the field. Do you have some rogue members that don't listen to the rules? At my club(s) there are a couple of flyers who seem to have a hard time staying in the pattern (even after being reminded) - I make it a point not to fly when they're flying.
04-23-2014, 05:28 AM
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You are a member of the club just like they are. If they are constantly flying aginst the pattern, then you have the right to tell them so. No need to give up your flying time just because they don't fly the pattern. I'm an instructor in our club and I try to get the ones that have a HARD time flying the pattern, reguardless of the direction, to fly the pattern. If they need help, then I take it on myself to help them with what ever problem they have. It makes a better pilot of them and they get to fly with everyone else in the right pattern........
Larry/ Instructor
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04-23-2014, 06:30 AM
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You are a member of the club just like they are. If they are constantly flying aginst the pattern, then you have the right to tell them so. No need to give up your flying time just because they don't fly the pattern. I'm an instructor in our club and I try to get the ones that have a HARD time flying the pattern, reguardless of the direction, to fly the pattern. If they need help, then I take it on myself to help them with what ever problem they have. It makes a better pilot of them and they get to fly with everyone else in the right pattern........
Larry/ Instructor
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