obrien135

Hi I have a question about 4-channel non-stabilized airplanes. Does anybody know if there are any manufacturers that produce a 4-channel airplane wiithoutsafe mode technology? If there is does it have to be a kid I'm sure you can buy kits that where you spec out your own electronics and motors that don't use stabilization but I was wondering if there were any RTF versions. I build some Kitts way back when but I just don't feel like it anymore.is it just back in the old days that they had those kind of planes for sale or was it no RTF in those days?

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Most of the SAFE/AS3X equipped planes from Horizon are available either BNF (bind and fly) with SAFE or PNP (PlugNPlay) where you provide your own receiver.

obrien135

I didn't know that. I meant to ask if any of them have a good amount of dihedral in the wings like the hobbyzone champ. Without the stabilization in the control systems i would need that.

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I was also wondering if balsa wood plane were any more stable than foam plains all else being equal

obrien135

I actually only built one kit. It was an Estes rocket Astro blaster and it took me about two years to build it and when I flew it it crashed immediately either because of my lack of flying skills or maybe it wasn't built right. I was going to convert it to a gas propelled prop plane but I felt it was too badly damaged. Years later I downloaded several plans for planes from a website or several websites and I need a parts list but
The the hobby stores in my state refused to sell me the parts because they said I would just crash it due to my lack of experience and after going through all that trouble I would be greatly disappointed.so instead I built several foam pledge of my own design after buying a book on model airplane design and none of them flew right. I had to cheap drones which I was able to fly reasonably well and do some aerobatics but they both flew away when they got out of range. I had a small indoor / outdoor helicopter it was not aerobatic. It got in the way of the sun and it to flew away. I had seven ready to fly planes that all had safe mode technology but I couldn't fly them except in the safe mode and they all crash to bits. I was thinking about trying a 3 channel they've all been for channel up to now except for the ones I built myself.I really don't have the energy to build another kit or the motivation to do it or a place to work or the tools or anything like that. I have a blade MCX indoor helicopter which I am doing fine with and I had decided to pursue RC cars as an alternative which I'm doing fine with

obrien135

I actually only built one kit. It was an Estes rocket Astro blaster and it took me about two years to build it and when I flew it it crashed immediately either because of my lack of flying skills or maybe it wasn't built right. I was going to convert it to a gas propelled prop plane but I felt it was too badly damaged. Years later I downloaded several plans for planes from a website or several websites and I need a parts list but <br />The the hobby stores in my state refused to sell me the parts because they said I would just crash it due to my lack of experience and after going through all that trouble I would be greatly disappointed.so instead I built several foam pledge of my own design after buying a book on model airplane design and none of them flew right. I had to cheap drones which I was able to fly reasonably well and do some aerobatics but they both flew away when they got out of range. I had a small indoor / outdoor helicopter it was not aerobatic. It got in the way of the sun and it to flew away. I had seven ready to fly planes that all had safe mode technology but I couldn't fly them except in the safe mode and they all crash to bits. I was thinking about trying a 3 channel they've all been for channel up to now except for the ones I built myself.I really don't have the energy to build another kit or the motivation to do it or a place to work or the tools or anything like that. I have a blade MCX indoor helicopter which I am doing fine with and I had decided to pursue RC cars as an alternative which I'm doing fine with. I see people flying with expert skills who have only been at it for a few years and even young kids flying like pros on the internet and I realize it's not something I have a talent for if I get this last 3 channel plane I think it will be in my swan song for RC airplanes.

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One of the planes I built from foam was underpowered because I used the guts from a t-28 Trojan s. I even beefed it up by adding a transistor and an extra battery to drive a bigger motor but it was so underpowered. So I ordered a gas motor but my wife didn't want me to pay for it so I cancel the order and it's probably for the better because I hear you're not supposed to fly to gas motors at a park and I didn't fall into a club yet I don't know if I'm going to join the club probably not also I don't have a place to store the fuel

obrien135

as I mentioned I did reasonably well with the drones but it's the airplanes that really gave me the thrill even though it only lasted until I realized I couldn't fly in the advanced mode if I could just fly into safe mode I would enjoy it but that is usually considered ununsatisfactor. if I could just do that is that was legit I would enjoy that because that was really fun but that's all I can do with those planesI guess it's because of the Parkinson's and the medication and the bad eyesight that I don't want to do any more kits maybe that's why I can't fly in advanced mode

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I had one other helicopter that I forgot to mention it's a FlySky lama v4 or something like that. It's a coaxial helicopter but it can be flown outdoors on a quiet day I tried that and it crashed two bits I got the feeling from her that I wouldn't be able to fly it well so after I rebuilt that I just leave it on the shelf.I built a little three wheeled car out of spare parts and junk I founzd around the hous and a few thingsthat I bought and I put of fpv camera on it had that for years then it stopped working so I converted it to a propeller driven car. For that one I tried to develop my own control system using pulse-width modulation via some 555 timer chips to submodulate a tone generatot and a 27 megahertz transmitter and receiver and a tone detector and esc to drive a DC motor and a servo I got it to the prototyping stage and got it working on as a prototypebut I couldn't continue with it because of my Parkinson's so I posted a video on YouTube with block diagramsbut my explanation is very stuttery so it's hard to follow I ended up buying a control system For it but I speced that out myself it worked very well for quite a few years

obrien135

Perkinson aside and everything else I really don't have the patience to build another not knowing whether I want to fly right sway and crash would you probably wouldn't I mean it woultd probably would crash right off the bat. It's just not something that I want to do. I'll stick to the RTFs or perhaps a plug-and-play if I can come up with the money as you know I built one way back when and it crashed immediately if I could be somewhat reasonably sure that that wouldn't happen and if I had a place to work in an environment conducive to a more convenient for working on and the money required I might consider it but I haven't had the full experience because the model had foam inside the balsa-wood wings instead of ribs but it was pretty much the full experience of building a model and crashing it but that's all I really want to put up with enough of that I don't really want to go to the model and I don't feel as though I should have to do itiout of a sense of guilt or obligation

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I feel like it would be better off getting involved with a rough contact sport like football or hockey rather than the tedious fussiness of building another kit I really don't want to do that hope you'll forgive me for saying that but I mean I'm too old to play football or hockey but maybe I can find some other more physical pursuit