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Old 12-12-2008, 05:14 PM
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Can you recover a plane without taking off the ultra coat are what ever is on the plane and still make it look good and stick to the covering?
Old 12-12-2008, 05:24 PM
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That's not the best idea I've ever heard
Old 12-12-2008, 05:29 PM
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Default RE: Recovering over exsisting cover

What Mike said. One of the hardest things to do in covering is putting one layer of covering over another without getting bubbles in it. You would be much better off removing the old covering and putting the new covering on.

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Old 12-12-2008, 05:35 PM
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You can cover over old covering, but you won't be happy with the result. Just as if you are covering one color over another, you should be sure that the base covering is ABSOLUTELY free of fuel residue, dirt, etc. by cleaning with denatured alcohol or the like. I would only recommend this be done in small areas as in patching holes or tearing. The major problem is that the base covering may pull away from the wood when the top covering is shrinking and leave you with bubbles and loose patches. The other problem is that unless you are much more accomplished at covering than I will ever be, you end up with the top cover bubbling over the base covering and you end up with swiss-cheese while pin-holing the air bubbles out. My recommendation is to remove the old covering, sand the underlying wood to remove residue and smooth out imperfections, brush a coat of Balsarite on the wood to give the new covering some extra grip and re-cover. I do this with every ARF that I've ever built to make them personalized. Works great.
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Default RE: Recovering over exsisting cover

Kenny,

It is impossible! Don't do it. You can prove this to yourself by trying a small practice piece on the bottom of the plane. Try a piece about 4 inches square and see what happens. It will trap bubbles and also will not shrink without major wrinkles. Once stuck, you'll have troulble getting it off, as you'll see with the practice piece.

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Old 12-12-2008, 09:19 PM
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Default RE: Recovering over exsisting cover

ORIGINAL: Kenny w

......and still make it look good and stick to the covering?

For many reasons........

no
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Strip your project first, covering over old film will assure a botched job that looks awful. Another problem among many if you do is old dark colors will show through new lighter colors now matter how opaque the material is.

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Old 12-12-2008, 09:57 PM
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IF you could and make it look ok, you would have one lousey flying Brick fly. STRIP IT !!! ENJOY !!! RED
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Default RE: Recovering over exsisting cover

Thanks for all the input on this,I guess I will be stripping it down.Will the heat gun loosen up the old covering enough to pull it all off?
Old 12-15-2008, 11:37 AM
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Hi!
Yes! Most of it!
Old 12-15-2008, 11:47 AM
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Default RE: Recovering over exsisting cover

Cool deal I will just have to dive in and see what happens.I guess there is no easy way to recover without doing it up right. Thanks for all the input from everyone it sure helps when you havent done any of this before. Any secret tips on removal and appyling would also be apreseated Thanks Again
Old 12-15-2008, 01:22 PM
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Be patient and go at it systematically and it will go quicker than you think. Yes heat can help to a point but be careful too much heat and you can melt the color right into the wood so even after removing all the film You can have heavy splotches of color all over. These soaked in color dyes may show through the new film depending on the colors used. Its possible to make the job even more difficult if you overheat. In these case there is no magic elixor and the dye can only be removed by careful sajnding.

Here are a couple of my past stripping projects under way:
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Old 12-15-2008, 02:04 PM
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Thanks John I will just jump into it and take my time.Thanks for the helpfup hints I need all I can get.I will be useing the same color I will just be adding military decals to it and the covering on it now is patched up in alot of places.its a 1/4 scale rearwin speadster

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