Cordless plane starter
02-27-2009, 04:40 PM
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RE: Cordless plane starter
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I am looking for the most simple way to make my hangar 9 plane starter cordless..Any ideas?
I am looking for the most simple way to make my hangar 9 plane starter cordless..Any ideas?
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXFT85&P=M
02-27-2009, 04:54 PM
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RE: Cordless plane starter
I was really hoping to be able to use maybe a 3 cell lipo somehow...I am only going to use it to start 40-60 size planes
02-27-2009, 06:51 PM
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I was really hoping to be able to use maybe a 3 cell lipo somehow...I am only going to use it to start 40-60 size planes
I was really hoping to be able to use maybe a 3 cell lipo somehow...I am only going to use it to start 40-60 size planes
02-28-2009, 07:58 AM
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I have. I saw one on line somewhere the other day..Not for sure of the company..Maybe sullivan..So I called them and she said it was a mistake. They did not end up making them and it should not have been on there webpage. Did look good though...
02-28-2009, 08:24 AM
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I tried it with my cordless drill and it didn't work well at all. My drill is not a high voltage "contractor grade" drill though. It just didn't have enough torque. I have heard/read of guys using them with success, though.
02-28-2009, 08:29 AM
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RE: Cordless plane starter
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I tried it with my cordless drill and it didn't work well at all. My drill is not a high voltage "contractor grade" drill though. It just didn't have enough torque. I have heard/read of guys using them with success, though.
I tried it with my cordless drill and it didn't work well at all. My drill is not a high voltage "contractor grade" drill though. It just didn't have enough torque. I have heard/read of guys using them with success, though.
PKH I see you live in emmaus...I am down 100 south about 25 miles outside of pottstown..Are there any nice hobbyshops up that way?
02-28-2009, 09:27 AM
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While using cordless drills has been done by individuals there are two critical problems. The first is at their highest speed thy tend to crank to slow for many engines and the second is the handle and trigger is oriented wrong for our use and they are quite awkward to use and pull the trigger.
John
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02-28-2009, 09:35 AM
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While using cordless drills has been done by individuals there are two critical problems. The first is at their highest speed thy tend to crank to slow for many engines and the second is the handle and trigger is oriented wrong for our use and they are quite awkward to use and pull the trigger.
John
While using cordless drills has been done by individuals there are two critical problems. The first is at their highest speed thy tend to crank to slow for many engines and the second is the handle and trigger is oriented wrong for our use and they are quite awkward to use and pull the trigger.
John
I have found that to be a problem also....I did use my drill the other day with a hex nut on instead of a spinner ....I was just trying to free up an old stuck enya that I bought...It worked good for that..
02-28-2009, 11:52 AM
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RE: Cordless plane starter
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PKH I see you live in emmaus...I am down 100 south about 25 miles outside of pottstown..Are there any nice hobbyshops up that way?
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I tried it with my cordless drill and it didn't work well at all. My drill is not a high voltage "contractor grade" drill though. It just didn't have enough torque. I have heard/read of guys using them with success, though.
I tried it with my cordless drill and it didn't work well at all. My drill is not a high voltage "contractor grade" drill though. It just didn't have enough torque. I have heard/read of guys using them with success, though.
PKH I see you live in emmaus...I am down 100 south about 25 miles outside of pottstown..Are there any nice hobbyshops up that way?
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RE: Cordless plane starter
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I tried it with my cordless drill and it didn't work well at all. My drill is not a high voltage "contractor grade" drill though. It just didn't have enough torque. I have heard/read of guys using them with success, though.
I tried it with my cordless drill and it didn't work well at all. My drill is not a high voltage "contractor grade" drill though. It just didn't have enough torque. I have heard/read of guys using them with success, though.
What did you put in the chuck? I think my 12 volt Ryobi will do it. It will drive a 3" deck screw with no problam.
Thanks,
Bill
02-28-2009, 01:25 PM
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It is not a question of whether or not the drill has enough torque Its the handle and trigger. Its very dangerous to try and use one single handed in the way most people will try and do, normally start their engines sixty sized and down.
If you do try you need to understand that they only way to use one of those is two handed. If you are a one handed starter (and I am not going to argue the pro and con of that but its a fact that is what a majority do with 60 and down) simply hold it up to the airplane and see how much control you have, very little.
I beleve that is why you will find no one selling units for that purpose at least for long untill they get sued.
John
If you do try you need to understand that they only way to use one of those is two handed. If you are a one handed starter (and I am not going to argue the pro and con of that but its a fact that is what a majority do with 60 and down) simply hold it up to the airplane and see how much control you have, very little.
I beleve that is why you will find no one selling units for that purpose at least for long untill they get sued.
John
02-28-2009, 01:49 PM
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RE: Cordless plane starter
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I'm reading all of your posts about the electric drill motor being used as an engine starter. I usually hand flip most of my engines. I have a hard time understanding why a drill motor won't have enough "juice" to start an engine. I'm not saying you are wrong but I haven't tried it. I'm going to. It's likly I'm going to win a bid in Auctionland on a Tunnel Hull Hydro boat with a conical shaped flywheel. All I want to know is where I can get a starter drive for my drill motor chuck. Anyone?
Bill
I have found that to be a problem also....I did use my drill the other day with a hex nut on instead of a spinner ....I was just trying to free up an old stuck enya that I bought...It worked good for that..
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While using cordless drills has been done by individuals there are two critical problems. The first is at their highest speed thy tend to crank to slow for many engines and the second is the handle and trigger is oriented wrong for our use and they are quite awkward to use and pull the trigger.
John
While using cordless drills has been done by individuals there are two critical problems. The first is at their highest speed thy tend to crank to slow for many engines and the second is the handle and trigger is oriented wrong for our use and they are quite awkward to use and pull the trigger.
John
Bill
I have found that to be a problem also....I did use my drill the other day with a hex nut on instead of a spinner ....I was just trying to free up an old stuck enya that I bought...It worked good for that..
02-28-2009, 01:49 PM
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RE: Cordless plane starter
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What did you put in the chuck? I think my 12 volt Ryobi will do it. It will drive a 3" deck screw with no problam.
Thanks,
Bill
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I tried it with my cordless drill and it didn't work well at all. My drill is not a high voltage "contractor grade" drill though. It just didn't have enough torque. I have heard/read of guys using them with success, though.
I tried it with my cordless drill and it didn't work well at all. My drill is not a high voltage "contractor grade" drill though. It just didn't have enough torque. I have heard/read of guys using them with success, though.
What did you put in the chuck? I think my 12 volt Ryobi will do it. It will drive a 3" deck screw with no problam.
Thanks,
Bill
02-28-2009, 02:25 PM
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RE: Cordless plane starter
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It is not a question of whether or not the drill has enough torque Its the handle and trigger. Its very dangerous to try and use one single handed in the way most people will try and do, normally start their engines sixty sized and down.
If you do try you need to understand that they only way to use one of those is two handed. If you are a one handed starter (and I am not going to argue the pro and con of that but its a fact that is what a majority do with 60 and down) simply hold it up to the airplane and see how much control you have, very little.
I beleve that is why you will find no one selling units for that purpose at least for long untill they get sued.
John
It is not a question of whether or not the drill has enough torque Its the handle and trigger. Its very dangerous to try and use one single handed in the way most people will try and do, normally start their engines sixty sized and down.
If you do try you need to understand that they only way to use one of those is two handed. If you are a one handed starter (and I am not going to argue the pro and con of that but its a fact that is what a majority do with 60 and down) simply hold it up to the airplane and see how much control you have, very little.
I beleve that is why you will find no one selling units for that purpose at least for long untill they get sued.
John
Thank you John. Good advice I'm sure.
Bill
Using a flashlight base from any cordless drill set you can make one of these. Works great!
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RE: Cordless plane starter
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I used a starter cone from an old starter. It is a question of speed and torque (or just power). My drill has lots of torque on the low speed setting, but it's low rpm (too slow for a starter). My drill is a 9.6V Porter-Cable drill, which does fine for around-the-house drilling, nut/screwdriving etc. A 12V+ drill would definitely do a better job as a starter.
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What did you put in the chuck? I think my 12 volt Ryobi will do it. It will drive a 3" deck screw with no problam.
Thanks,
Bill
ORIGINAL: -pkh-
I tried it with my cordless drill and it didn't work well at all. My drill is not a high voltage "contractor grade" drill though. It just didn't have enough torque. I have heard/read of guys using them with success, though.
I tried it with my cordless drill and it didn't work well at all. My drill is not a high voltage "contractor grade" drill though. It just didn't have enough torque. I have heard/read of guys using them with success, though.
What did you put in the chuck? I think my 12 volt Ryobi will do it. It will drive a 3" deck screw with no problam.
Thanks,
Bill
Thank you man. I'm going to try it. How fast does a "flip start" get the engine going? Do you have a rubber cone you want to sell?
Bill
02-28-2009, 04:15 PM
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RE: Cordless plane starter
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What did you put in the chuck? I think my 12 volt Ryobi will do it. It will drive a 3" deck screw with no problam.
What did you put in the chuck? I think my 12 volt Ryobi will do it. It will drive a 3" deck screw with no problam.
Starter Cone $5.99
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXJC36&P=SM
Rubber insert $1.75
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXL401&P=V
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RE: Cordless plane starter
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Try this
Starter Cone $5.99
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXJC36&P=SM
Rubber insert $1.75
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXL401&P=V
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What did you put in the chuck? I think my 12 volt Ryobi will do it. It will drive a 3" deck screw with no problam.
What did you put in the chuck? I think my 12 volt Ryobi will do it. It will drive a 3" deck screw with no problam.
Starter Cone $5.99
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXJC36&P=SM
Rubber insert $1.75
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXL401&P=V
THAT'S THE TICKET! Thank you. I'll let you know. I'll use it first on my K&B 3.5 outboard F1 tunnel - if I win the bid.
Bill
02-28-2009, 05:12 PM
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RE: Cordless plane starter
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What did you put in the chuck? I think my 12 volt Ryobi will do it. It will drive a 3" deck screw with no problam.
Thanks,
Bill
ORIGINAL: -pkh-
I tried it with my cordless drill and it didn't work well at all. My drill is not a high voltage "contractor grade" drill though. It just didn't have enough torque. I have heard/read of guys using them with success, though.
I tried it with my cordless drill and it didn't work well at all. My drill is not a high voltage "contractor grade" drill though. It just didn't have enough torque. I have heard/read of guys using them with success, though.
What did you put in the chuck? I think my 12 volt Ryobi will do it. It will drive a 3" deck screw with no problam.
Thanks,
Bill
When I used my drill I just put a nut on the shaft and used a socket on my drill.. I was just trying to spin it over though. I was not trying to start it.. You would never get the socket off if it started..
I went today and bought the hobbico batter box..This was of course before I saw the black and decker set up.lol