mxaexm

I would love to build a gasser over the winter. I was thinking of using either Zenoah 20 or 26. I'm not interested in 3D but in some "classic" aerobatics....

what would you recommend as for my first gasser?

MinnFlyer

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The nice thing about the G-20 is that you can use it in several 60-size planes. The H-9 Hellcat and the new Top Flight P-47 are excellent matches for it. I also just used one on the Seagull 120 Decathlon and it's a great match.

mxaexm

Any other aerobatic airplanes that you could recommend? I like the idea of using gas but I don't want to go crazy big..I was thinking of Great Planes Extra 1.6 but I'm not sure if G-20 would be a good match for it.

ChuckW

The G-20 would be pretty small for that GP Extra. They recommend their Fuji-43. I have a 50cc in mine. Another option is the Super Stearman bipe or PT-17 from Great Planes. They need the extra nose weight so a small gas engine works great in them.

mxaexm

How about Great Planes Extra 60 ?

MinnFlyer

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I agree that the G-20 would be too small, but the Fuji 43 would be great. I have the Fuji 43 in the GP 27% extra and it's great

MinnFlyer

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It could work in the 60, I just don't know how it would handle the weight

mxaexm

I know that Seagull has Yak 90 and they recommend G20 however I'm not the biggest fan of that airplane....if I won't find anything else then I might just get the Yak....

David Bathe

That H9 T craft would be brill' with a G26.
Get the old, non battery ignition version. Just great, no battery to bother with and just runs... by it's self!
Perfect.

ChuckW

People seem to have mixed opinions on the Fujis for some reason but I had the 43 on a GP Sukhoi and it is outstanding. I did have ignition problems initially so I converted it to one from CH. The engine starts extremely easy. Plenty of power, sounds good, runs smooth. A little on the expensive side but at least you get something for the money.

MinnFlyer

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I've got the Fuji 43ie and 34b and never had a lick of problems with either. Love 'em!

jetmech05

go with a nice Extra 50cc for your first gasser......there's going to be a learning curve.....we all go through it.....hang in there and you're going to love gas.....quit before you've mastered this learning curve and you won't fly gas again.......Good Luck

Gray Beard

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I'm not going to say this is the best plane for a new gasser but we used to put people into the Bridi Big Bee some years ago and I think {{Been a while}} we were running the G-23, today it's the G-26. That was a very basic build and great flyer. Not even sure if Blue Jay is cutting it or not. Big plane, cheap servos so it was a good choice. I also had a G-23 in the Bridi 120 Kaos. I still have the plane but not the engine.

tryan02

I just went trough this scenario myself a club member had already done one so he gave me some advice and there was nothing to it. I did a seagull extra 260 the 180 size with a zenoah g-26. Now its all I fly. Its no 3D plane and maybe a bit underpowered to my liking but will do any and all sport aerobatics with precision. Oh and dont forget the smile on your face flying all day long on 1/2 a gallon of $3 gas/oil mix. $200 ARF kit cant be beat I used all standard HS485HB servos and went with a smaller fuel tank the zenoah sips fuel dont need all that extra nose weight. Other than the motor at $325 its a budget gasser.

mxaexm

That's what I'm talking about1 Relatively inexpensive airplane that will fit in my car and won't be too big but will be gas powered. Did you say that you have standard servos in this airplane?

David Bathe

The g26 is a great engine, no questions.

tryan02

Yes standard servos the hitec hs485HB $17 a piece x 6.

Well, fit in your car gasser I am not sure I would have to see your car the 180 is 71" wingspan and 64" fuselage It barely fits in my jeep compass with the wings off of course. I have the seagull edge 540 that is smaller and considered the zenoah g20 on it but only considered it.

My wife caught me measuring my jeep one day and got suspicious but didnt ask a week later the kit showed up at the door.

jimmyjames213

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if you are thinking gp arf's i would look at the dle 30 its putting out some big numbers that are matching some 40cc+ sized engines.
that way you are saving a ton on weight. also how are you surviving with standard servo's on a gasser? im wearing out standard servo's on 40 sized planes

Gray Beard

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Just a few years ago the 48in.lb. servos were the big guys. On big stunt planes we used more then one on the big control surfaces as our planes got bigger and started to weigh a lot more. The big digital craze only started about 8 or 10 years ago but today there are some great choices so standard servos are now looked down upon, sometimes they work very well depending on the plane. Today we also see even the cheap gassers with electronic ignitions and hear about the big weight difference between electronics and mags. People tend to forget when you add the weight of the ignition, battery and switch they just ended up with the same weight as the mag unit. There is about a nickles worth of weight difference but the EI does make for easier starting and a smoother idle. I run them both but I still like the mag because it is just an easier system. I haven't ever noticed an RF problem with either one.

tryan02

Just got back from a vacation sorry so late to answer the question on standard servos but they are hitec HS485HB thats karbonite gears on 6V I believe 92oz/in and each surface has its own servo split elevator, ailerons and rudder with absolutely no problems on a 13lb plane. Hitec makes some good stuff.

cloudwalker

Hi , I used a zen 20 cc in the seagul 120 extra and it flew great. No 3D or prop hang but a lovely sport flyer. I forgot what I used for servos, they were high tec and may have been something a little more than standard, and the vibration, which was not a lot, broke the gear train after a bit of use. Bill.

ohnoucdat

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I think if you value your investment, if you go gas always use MG servo's, atleast karbonite gears, and not nylon. Not only are you risking your plane, I would think it to be unsafe. I've seen several of the 3010's strip gears, and this with glow engines. I try to stay away from the nylon gears now, even on glow.

cloudwalker

Hi Ohnoucdat, I quite agree, Ive since moved on to m.g. servos. I also here bad things about carbonite too, very brittle by all acounts. Bill.

Eganwp

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I'm building an 88.5" Edge 540 w/ DLE 55 for my first. Still working on it as there's no rush till spring.

Normally I'd also suggest to people to start with 50cc+ so you don't get heavy wing loadings. However, since the release of the new DLE 30cc engine that's extremely light and very powerful, I would also consider that in a 25% plane of your choice with light wing loading.

Good luck with whatever you choose. Just another option which i would choose over the Zen 26. I got my new DLE 55cc engine to my door for $350.

tryan02

3rd gallon through my G-26 seagull extra 180 and hitec 485 servos all is well with the world and flying better than ever. But as a sidenote I learned the hard way let the motor warm up 2 or 3 min minimum when flying on a cold day 45F or less. They need some heat soon as I got it in the air the higher cold breeze just killed it. made for a very uncomfortable deadstick working hard to just hit the end of the runway. But pulled it off and fired it up again let it warm up a little longer and flew like a dream.

Man I love that plane right size for me and didnt break the bank.


Doing some research now and gonna see if the G26 will fit in the round cowl of a hangar 9 60 size p-47.