Am I Braking Any Laws ???
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Am I Braking Any Laws ???
They say the truth will set you free. So, this is my sin.
I am not a member of a club. and do not have AMA .
I am somewhat self taught, and do not think of myself as a beginner .
I hear I need to wait on a waiting list to get in to a club called Cocalico Prop Dusters. Were I think I want to fly.
What should i do?
I am not a member of a club. and do not have AMA .
I am somewhat self taught, and do not think of myself as a beginner .
I hear I need to wait on a waiting list to get in to a club called Cocalico Prop Dusters. Were I think I want to fly.
What should i do?
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RE: Am I Braking Any Laws ???
There is no law that says you have to join AMA. But many flying places require AMA membership. Most clubs that fly on private, leased land will require AMA. The liability insurance provided by AMA helps to gain and keep flying sites.
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You're not breaking any laws. But if you want to fly at the club unfortunately you have to follow their guidelines. If they require you to have AMA then you're going to have to get it to join their club.
What part of Missouri are you from?? I grew up in Rolla. And the left field bleacher of Busch Stadium 2!!!!!!
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I used to fly without belonging to one of the local clubs. A few of us would find construction sites or country roads with no traffic. We'd get asked to leave occasionally, usually by deputies, but never had any serious trouble. It could be illegal in some areas though so it might be worth checking into. The other issue is liability. An airplane could do serious damage to property or people if it were to get out of control. Not only could you get yourself in a huge mess, it could end up inadvertently hurting all the other flyers in the area from all the bad press. In a sanctioned club setting, you tend to have better flying locations and insurance. Another benefit to the club is getting to know other flyers and learning from some of the experienced members. Joining the AMA and a club a number of years ago was one of the best things I've done for myself regarding the hobby.
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RE: Am I Braking Any Laws ???
Chuck is right on the liability concerns. Depending on what you fly and where you fly, your exposure to risk might be a lot higher than you think. An AMA membership makes for pretty cheap insurance, though if you happen to be violating the safety code you're unlikely to get coverage. There's nothing in the safety code requiring you to fly at an AMA chartered club.
I'd give some serious thought to either AMA membership or a personal umbrella policy. This is a safe hobby, but the potential for a life-changing accident certainly is there. Nobody wants to be on the hook for a big civil court judgment.
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ORIGINAL: RCKen
You're not breaking any laws. But if you want to fly at the club unfortunately you have to follow their guidelines. If they require you to have AMA then you're going to have to get it to join their club.
What part of Missouri are you from?? I grew up in Rolla. And the left field bleacher of Busch Stadium 2!!!!!!
Ken
You're not breaking any laws. But if you want to fly at the club unfortunately you have to follow their guidelines. If they require you to have AMA then you're going to have to get it to join their club.
What part of Missouri are you from?? I grew up in Rolla. And the left field bleacher of Busch Stadium 2!!!!!!
Ken
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There are only 4 or 5 of us flying at our field. No club dues, no AMA requirement. Two of us are AMA, because we like to go to the neighboring clubs fly-ins. I think the newest guy in our group will be joining AMA soon. He was planning on going to a neighboring club fly-in without being AMA....they wouldn't let him fly....I tried to tell him....[]
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I hear I need to wait on a waiting list to get in to a club called Cocalico Prop Dusters. Were I think I want to fly.
I hear I need to wait on a waiting list to get in to a club called Cocalico Prop Dusters. Were I think I want to fly.
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ORIGINAL: Gray Beard
seems he joined but a few months later he had to join again, seems he was unhappy about them only giving him a few months on a years membership.
seems he joined but a few months later he had to join again, seems he was unhappy about them only giving him a few months on a years membership.
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ORIGINAL: MinnFlyer
Usually if you join late in the year(like August), you pay the full amount, but when you re-up the following year, it is pro-rated. So you only pay for 4 months the second year.
ORIGINAL: Gray Beard
seems he joined but a few months later he had to join again, seems he was unhappy about them only giving him a few months on a years membership.
seems he joined but a few months later he had to join again, seems he was unhappy about them only giving him a few months on a years membership.
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ORIGINAL: ES CONTROL
They say the truth will set you free. So, this is my sin.
I am not a member of a club. and do not have AMA .
I am somewhat self taught, and do not think of myself as a beginner .
I hear I need to wait on a waiting list to get in to a club called Cocalico Prop Dusters. Were I think I want to fly.
What should i do?
They say the truth will set you free. So, this is my sin.
I am not a member of a club. and do not have AMA .
I am somewhat self taught, and do not think of myself as a beginner .
I hear I need to wait on a waiting list to get in to a club called Cocalico Prop Dusters. Were I think I want to fly.
What should i do?
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I grew upon a small farm in Bethany Mo. and always went to the big Pig Roast held just north ,of St. Joseph , at the end of the Belt Highway. Lived in St.Joe for a short time , just before I joined the Army. Ran Keith Marsh Chevoretbodyshop for awhile just before I move to Minnesota. Retiered from NWA as a CrewCheif and just stayed. All the kids and grandkids are here and I get to hang out with Minnflyer once in a while. .Small world huh ?
As far as flying without AMA or breaking any laws , I think your O.K. You would benefit greatly to be flying 2.4 g radio, just for the added insurance of not shooting someone down or getting shot down yourself. Also home owners or renter insurance , just in case. I beleive in Murphy's law, If it can happen , it well happen. My Golden Retiever is named Murphy, just to keep me reminded of Murphy's law .
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As far as flying without AMA or breaking any laws , I think your O.K. You would benefit greatly to be flying 2.4 g radio, just for the added insurance of not shooting someone down or getting shot down yourself. Also home owners or renter insurance , just in case. I beleive in Murphy's law, If it can happen , it well happen. My Golden Retiever is named Murphy, just to keep me reminded of Murphy's law .
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Ken I didn't know you were a Missouri boy......I grew up in St. Joseph......
ES You live in Pa and think MO is expensive???????
Ken I didn't know you were a Missouri boy......I grew up in St. Joseph......
ES You live in Pa and think MO is expensive???????
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RE: Am I Braking Any Laws ???
Ken is showing his age referring to Busch II. Now, I'll show mine. I grew up in a little town across the river from St. Louis. As kids, eight, none, ten, we would often ride the street car across the river to an elevated platform just east of Sportsman's Park. Cost us a dime. We would get off and walk to the stadium, getting there about the third inning. Timing was critical because we didn't have any money. Didn't need no steenkin money. The ushers would find something to do while we "sneaked" into the stadium to watch the rest of the game. The players would always exit the game through public gates, and they always had time to have a couple of words with some snot nosed kids. I'm talking about Musial, Schoendinst, on and on. One of those snot nosed kids grew up to play short stop for the Cardinals for 14 years and then on to become general manager of the team. Talk about the good ole days. Who in his right mind would give his pre-teen kids that kind of freedom now? Today, I am sitting here as I type this, watching the Cardinals' opening day game. Colby Rasmus just did his best Jim Edmonds imitation, going over the wall to make a spectacular catch.