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Old 09-20-2005, 02:23 PM
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hey guys dont you think it will be cool if we made a flowchart of problems and possible solutions ? I saw one on here the other day and thought it was a really good idea, it will really help noobs and experienced guys too.
Old 09-20-2005, 02:35 PM
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Default RE: problem flowchart

MMMMMMMM.

Do you have a problem?

No. Then carry on the race.

Yes. Try the search button.


Did the search find the answer?

No. Then post away.

Yes. Sort it and carry on racing.
Old 09-20-2005, 02:57 PM
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not like that, i mean something to print and take away with you, normally when i have a provlem i dont even need to ask on here, i just search like you said.
Old 09-20-2005, 04:52 PM
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[link=http://img259.echo.cx/img259/4090/10505234zc.jpg]Engine Tuning Flow Chart[/link]

Found it at the general section of the OFNA forums so I take no credit for it. Pretty helpful tool if you ask me.
Old 09-20-2005, 05:31 PM
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ORIGINAL: Raddick

[link=http://img259.echo.cx/img259/4090/10505234zc.jpg]Engine Tuning Flow Chart[/link]

Found it at the general section of the OFNA forums so I take no credit for it. Pretty helpful tool if you ask me.
Here's a cleaned-up version if you want...

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Old 09-20-2005, 10:55 PM
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still cant read it
Old 09-21-2005, 11:41 AM
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Can someone help clear up which is the highend and lowend needle? In the manual they use other names for them. I just want to make sure I am on the track.

Thanks,
Old 09-21-2005, 12:39 PM
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On most engines, the High Speed Needle sticks out, from the carb, generally pointing diagonally upward (usually near the fuel line). Although, if you had to spin your carb 180 degrees to get the slide to line up with the servo, your needle may be pointing diagonally down.

If you only have a two needle carb, the Low Speed Needle, this needle will be on the side of the carb closest to the exhaust pipe. If you have a three needle carb, this needle may be on the side closest to the servo, and the Middle Speed Needle (may not be right name?) may be on the exhaust pipe side. Although these may be switched from my description as well. You really need the manual for this one.
Old 09-21-2005, 02:32 PM
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The Manual uses different names that is why i am trying to figure out whats what. thx
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What names does it say? Or if you don't have the manual handy, what engine do you have? I will look it up online.
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ORIGINAL: kidswift

still cant read it
print it out full page and it's pretty good. The screen tends to size down and the result is "noisy".
Old 09-21-2005, 09:52 PM
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KX, the say mixture control valve, needle valve(high speed), metering needle.... Its a OS 21 VZB V-Spec.

p.s. my kx was my favorite bike, just sold my cr.

Thanks.
Old 09-21-2005, 10:39 PM
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The fuel line attatchs to the base of the high speed needle. The low speed needle is on the sliding part of the carb that the throttle linkage is hooked up to.
Old 09-22-2005, 07:29 AM
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nope the low speed needle is usualy on the side of the carb where the linkage connects not on the exhaust side
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On most engines, the High Speed Needle sticks out, from the carb, generally pointing diagonally upward (usually near the fuel line). Although, if you had to spin your carb 180 degrees to get the slide to line up with the servo, your needle may be pointing diagonally down.

If you only have a two needle carb, the Low Speed Needle, this needle will be on the side of the carb closest to the exhaust pipe. If you have a three needle carb, this needle may be on the side closest to the servo, and the Middle Speed Needle (may not be right name?) may be on the exhaust pipe side. Although these may be switched from my description as well. You really need the manual for this one.
Old 09-22-2005, 07:48 AM
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Yep, low speed on slide concertina side, mid range setting or 'mixture control valve' on the exhaust side. Mixture control valve (OS's name for it) is the most appropriate description and seems to have been widely adopted, as opposed to 'mid range needle', which is a totally misleading description.
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Thanks a lot guys. I have it down now, should be all good. Now if I could just find a track to rip it on.
Old 09-22-2005, 12:47 PM
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ORIGINAL: motopro
nope the low speed needle is usualy on the side of the carb where the linkage connects not on the exhaust side
Not on My O.S. RG, my Cipolla .21, or my Rossi .21. None of those carbs even have an adjustment on the linkage side at all (they are all two needle carbs).
Old 09-22-2005, 02:49 PM
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Welll.....welll....wellll....that is a very good idea. But do you know what is the problem here....Nobody whant to do it. You can see why.....is very simpre....for example....More of the problem and explanation is more easy if someone can take some pix. But what is the problem.....nobody whant to do it.

Take a pic is very easy than make a Flow Chart. Thik about that...you can find a good answer the reason.

You can see my case......I alway try to include some pix to help the novice or the expert people.
Old 09-22-2005, 02:54 PM
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me too
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Cleaner version.
This helped me out big time this weekend.. Almost a year since mine was running last.

[link=http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e94/ufdfireman/nitrotuningchart-1.jpg]Tuning Flowchart Full[/link]

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