MBX5T Maniac

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I know this buggy isn't out yet, but talk about what you think about this new buggy.

Here are some specs on the buggy:

The Turmoil Pro from Sportwerks is sure to cause a commotion wherever you take it. Factory-built to exacting specifications, the Turmoil Pro brings the ultimate combination of performance parts and competition design to the backyard or the track. From the anodized aluminum parts and rigid chassis bracing, to the advanced steering and suspension design, the Turmoil Pro gives you the perfect package for jumping into nitro racing today. Just install your radio gear and prepare for a no-compromise off-road experience.

Specs:
Type: 4WD Off-road Competition Buggy
Scale: 1/8
Length: 19.4" (492mm)
Width: 12.2" (310mm)
Wheelbase: 12.8" - 13" (325-330mm)
Weight: 7.0 lb's
Chassis: 3.2mm hard anodized 7075 T-6 Aluminum, lightened and scalloped
Suspension: (FR) Pivot Ball / (RE) H-Arm
Drive Train: Center Drive w/3 Sealed Differentials
Tire Type: Havok multi spike / Pre-glued
Motor or Engine: .21 V2
Wheel Size: 17mm hex
Kit/RTR: ARR
Shock Type: Threaded body/ 3.5mm Shafts
Body: Pre-cut
Ball Bearings: 8x16x5mm (Transmission), 5x10x4mm (Clutch), 6x10x3mm (Steering)
Fuel Tank Capacity: 126cc

Key Features:
FCG Chassis 7075 T-6 aluminum, hard anodized
Torque Rod Stiffeners
Machined Aluminum Inner Suspension Mounts
Blue anodized wheel hubs
Blue anodized capped wheel nuts
45 degree CVD’s front/rear/center
CVD dust boots
Hard coated bevel and spider gears
5mm Front and Rear Shock Towers
Rubber shock boots
Ackerman adjustable steering rack
Fuel tank with multi position pressure tap
One-piece engine mount
13T clutch bell
Aluminum T-6 7075 clutch shoes
007 HT tuned pipe with round header

SWK1155 - Turmoil Pro1/8 4WD ARR w/.21 & Pipe - $579.99

There will be an ARR kit with, and with out the Engine and pipe.

And when someone gets their hands on this buggy, please tell us about it.

I like the CVD boots. Even if a CVD pins comes loose, it won't be able to come out all the way. But make sure to check the pin from time-to-time, because it may be loose, and you don't know it. And thank god for CVD's all around. They are way better than dogbones.

I also like how Sportwerks decided to make stronger Shock towers, and the shocks actually come with the adjustable shock collars, and they also have the shock boots.
And the now-included ackerman steering rack is also a nice touch. So are the improved Chassis stiffers. The ones on my Mayhem bent before. The new motor mount is nice. I like that it is one piece, because it is stronger, lower, and stiffer.
I like that it now has Machined aluminum inner suspension mounts.
And the new Chassis could make a huge difference in handling, if it is good. It moves the diff and motor up some more. And I like how they lightened it.
And they actually decided to include some aluminum clutch shoes.

All in all, I think Sportwerks made some extremely good improvements on the existing Mayhem(though I think they didn't have to rename it), and I think that this buggy will be a far better racer than the mayhem.

Tell us what you think of this "New" buggy, and what you like, and dislike about it.

Reindeer

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I can definately see the rolling chassis version in my future. Anyone have any word on the release date?

Super_Dave

That still doesn't tell you how it handles . Its deffinatly not going to be a turd and if anything they just learned from the mayhem so it should be a pretty good buggy.

MBX5T Maniac

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I have to say that I'm probably going to have to get rid of the Mayhem. Then get this

1CE

most (if not all) of the parts on the termoil are already available for the mayhem.... i dont see why they renamed it they should have just made a mayhem prospec or sumthin... catch my drift?

Super_Dave

I think the mayhem caught a bad break. A lot of people (mainly racers) seem to hate them and the name "mayhem" doesn't exactly apeal to racing. They did make changes to the buggy and the new name might give them a clean start with this buggy.

MBX5T Maniac

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Yeah. If people hear "Mayhem II", or something like that, they are cautious, because the Mayhem got a bad name with racers. So with the new name, the buggy starts out with a clean slate.

I think I'm going to buy this buggy.

savagehead

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Can parts from the Turmoil be swiched to the mayhem?

annie_himself

Yes, I just bought the Turmoil and parts off of my old MAhem fit perfectly.

MBX5T Maniac

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What do you mean you bought the turmoil? It's out?

Haulin bass

I wonder why they went with and arm mount like the old GS storm has? Hing pin blocks inside the arms and with no locknuts ontop.

MBX5T Maniac

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I'm not sure, but it works well on my mayhem

XrayRacer

I race the mayhem every weekend and think it's a great buggy. It's typical of companies these days to re badge the same product and they do it for profits and not because of product image. Sportwerks can care less about the mayhems reputation among racers and I can care less about the turmoil.

If you have a mayhem pro and buy a turmoil you should have your head checked. Look at the benefits to cost ratio. What problems are you really having on your mayhem? None that will be solved by the turmoil. Will the FCG win you races? No and most will not even be able to tell the difference.

Ram008

The Turmoil is due out in June, it's not been released yet. It was just announced a few days ago.

MBX5T Maniac

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But it may be released earlier.

MorganSS

woot, in on first page

after checking the pics and specs on it, I basically have a turmoil minus a couple of upgrades, its the same damn car, just with upgraded parts

I love my mayhem, but I wont be buying a whole new buggy, you could just build one for cheaper

Combatcm

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Yeah, just look at the parts page...same parts.

SManMTB

It's got a different chassie so it will probably handle very different. How can you say it's the same car? It's similar and looks more like an SP1 to SP2 upgrade on the Kyosho.

MBX5T Maniac

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And the SP2 is a big improvement on the SP1

SManMTB

I still haven't tried my SP2 to really find out. Did you try it?

MBX5T Maniac

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Yep. I like the way it handles the rough stuff more than the way the sp1 does, and the steering is also better. This buggy has a hell of a lot of steering. It isn't as twitchy, and it's much smoother in the rough stuff compared to the sp1.

I like the new 5mm shock towers too. Way stronger. Not to mention the shocks being 3mm longer than the ones on the sp1.

SManMTB

So you own both then...

MBX5T Maniac

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No, I just got to test both at the track, both owned by the same guy. He had just changed the rear shock oil, and that's it on the SP2, and the SP1 had new shock towers, and a different front diff. And it had upgraded chassis braces. But they both had P5 engines, granted the one in the SP2 was newer. The SP2 has so much more steering though. I haven't driven one yet that has that much, and compared to the SP1, the sp2 isn't as twitchy. I also saw an improvement in the rough stuff handling.

Overall, I would get the SP2 even if it were 100 dollars more expensive than the SP1, because it is just a better handler. I haven't driven a XB8 yet, but my next buggy may be a XB8r, because it's a nice buggy for an excellent price

AznBash3r

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anyone know about the RTR verision? looks like a good deal, especially with an included DX2 radio....wow, for a rtr? sweet. gonna get one prolly.

NitroMayhem

I pre-ordered the Turmoil Pro before they hit the shelves. I didn't have a Mayhem but I did get the Mayhem ST and waited for the Turmoil. Here are my thoughts and something that might interest some of you.

<I posted this yesterday on another forum>

I have raced this a couple of times now and so far it seems quite good. It is very tough. The .21 v2 is awesome. I haven't broke anything yet and yes, I do crash. It came with 30w shock oil of which I have since changed to 40 and put red Mayhem springs on it. The new motor is excellent. I change to the Trinity Monster 30% since it has a respectable 12% lubricant content and I was so much faster on the straight, at least last night than everyone I encountered on it.

But to much dismay I am not happy with the front suspension travel. The front shock tower and shocks are too short compared to say Kyosho 777 so it doesn't absorb the bumps well at speed. But I have an idea.

The tires that come on it are pretty much just like everyone is using where I race and work well. It handles good and the stock diff fluids seem just fine.


<Updated today>

Well, I have managed to cure the front suspension issue. <crossing fingers>

I used a Rear Shock Tower from the Mayhem ST, then used the Turmoil buggie Front Shock Tower as a template. Amazingly holes match up so I first bolted the FST to the RST at the bottom and scribed it. Then I bolted them together at the top and scribed it. Also, while it was together at the top I drilled through the mounting holes into the RST that will now be the FST. I took them apart and cut it with a Dremel and used a 1/4" rounded Dremel bit to make it curvy and sexy looking.

As far as the shocks, all I did was use Rear Shocks but used the Front Buggie Spings. I stretched out the shorter spings to match the longer shocks and this made it so the springs wouldn't look all bunched up and crooked when compressed because even though this is taller it's not as tall as the rear.

After I test this prototype Shock Tower and all works well then I'll just get a Mayhem ST 5mm RST and do the same thing making it stronger.

Pics: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/alanmc.../ph//my_photos

This all took maybe an hour and a half to do. Stay tuned for tests and comments I receive from other racers.
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Alan.

Turmoil Pro
Mayhem ST
Revo
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and counting...