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Old 07-17-2008, 04:30 AM
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Default How do you transfer your fuel to the track?

Do you use any special bag, tank, hauler to carry it or just through it in the car?
Old 07-17-2008, 05:30 AM
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I just use a normal bag..
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Being in Cyprus the heat may be an issue as it is in Dubai. Mid to high 40's (c) (about 118+f) the past week with 95+% humidity. What I'm thinking of doing is getting ahold of a couple of quart sized heavy duty plastic bottles. Then when i get the big gallon bottle, divide it up amongst the smaller bottles and store them properly. If heading to the track, grab whatever i think i'll need and take that. That way if ANY condensation occurs while it's sat in my car, I know the rest of the supply is OK. Then transporting it, I have a couple of boxes in the back of my jeep that everything goes into. Just keeps it from rolling around or tipping over.
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well i just through it in the car!!
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Metal fuel canisters are nice, since they don't have condensation.
You could also transport your fuel in some sort of thermos-type vacuum insulated thing, that way there is 0% chance of condensation, even if there was 95% humidity
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Metal fuel canisters are nice, since they don't have condensation.
You could also transport your fuel in some sort of thermos-type vacuum insulated thing, that way there is 0% chance of condensation, even if there was 95% humidity
How does a metal can not produce condensation?

if its hotter inside the can then out side the can it will condensate, all the metal can does is not let sunlight in,

If you have a metal cup and put ice water in it, the out side of the metal cup will condensate on the outside.

Its better to use a plastic jug because you can squeeze most of the air out of inside of the container before you seal it shut, just keep it out of the sun.
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X2 plastic over metal...BOTH will condensate if left in the sun.....How can u possibly claim a metal container WILL NOT Condensate rpg711 ? i really dont understand your theory ?
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well i just through it in the car!!
Me too.

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X2 plastic over metal...BOTH will condensate if left in the sun.....How can u possibly claim a metal container WILL NOT Condensate rpg711 ? i really dont understand your theory ?
ok sry I said wrong, i ment to say that since nitro is sensitive to sun, metal canisters dont let sun in it.
My thermos idea is still legit tho
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Trinity has that idea Down Pat.



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Default RE: How do you transfer your fuel to the track?

Metal still has the advantage of keeping out sunlight though. Photodegradation will occur over a period of time if the fuel is left in sunlight in a clear container.

As an aside: Honestly, a small amount of condensation in fuel does not have NEARLY the negative affect most people would have you believe. I don't have a link handy, but a well-known user on this forum did a series of tests mixing small amounts of water in varying concentrations into nitro fuel and found no noticeable performance decreases until a significant amount of water was in the fuel mixture. Don't leave your fuel sitting in the rain with the cap off and you'll be fine.
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I use Odonnell which comes in a white plastic gallon jug. Never had a problem. What is wrong with the containers your fuel comes in? If it is clear just paint it white with some spray paint.
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Default RE: How do you transfer your fuel to the track?

Both metal and plastic containers will work.
On the plastic its good to use dark coloured bottles to keep out sunlight.
Good idea though for you to decanter a large 5 liter or so into smaller containers.
I store my fuel in the corner of my garage where there is minimal light.
Also moisture would be a problem if not used over a long period of time and moisture would get into the fuel if left open for long periods of time.
I mix my fuels in batches of 25/30 liters and have no issues with storage when less than half is in the conatiner.
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Metal still has the advantage of keeping out sunlight though. Photodegradation will occur over a period of time if the fuel is left in sunlight in a clear container.

As an aside: Honestly, a small amount of condensation in fuel does not have NEARLY the negative affect most people would have you believe. I don't have a link handy, but a well-known user on this forum did a series of tests mixing small amounts of water in varying concentrations into nitro fuel and found no noticeable performance decreases until a significant amount of water was in the fuel mixture. Don't leave your fuel sitting in the rain with the cap off and you'll be fine.
I've heard this as well. I've heard it done with airplane engines. I was told that the motor would run fine until there was something like 15-25% water in the fuel.

I just transport mine in the jugs it comes in. I do keep it in my rubbermaid carry-all out of the sun though since the bottle is translucent.
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Ive got a little blue cloth like cooler that holds 2 gallons and transport the fuel in that. I add ice on the hot days like today and keep it in the shad. At home its stored in its own mini fridge. I burn through to much fuel to worry about condensation. I do beleive in keeping the fuel as cool as I can till it hit the truggy/buggy tank.
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Ive got a little blue cloth like cooler that holds 2 gallons and transport the fuel in that. I add ice on the hot days like today and keep it in the shad. At home its stored in its own mini fridge. I burn through to much fuel to worry about condensation. I do beleive in keeping the fuel as cool as I can till it hit the truggy/buggy tank.
The fuel actually should be the exact same temperature as it is outside.
There is absolutely no condensation if it is the same temperature as outside.
Ice will CREATE condensation lol... i mean, it IS water :P
I wanted to store it in a mini-fridge just to keep it longer, because no matter what, you keep it constantly at the same temperature with no condensation(refrigerators have compressors and condensers for a reason) at 0% humidity(almost) so yeah.
Anotehr way would be to keep it in some sort of dehumidifier-airtight thing.
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well i just through it in the car!!
Me too.

In the car and off to the track!!!!
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Keep it in the basement until raceday and toss in the car until you get there then keep in shade
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i keep mine in a blue bag, in my closet. when i get to the track i keep it in the bag then when im at the track it stays in my dads van(which has a window a/c unit in the drivers window and all the windows are blocked with sheets to keep the sun out). Keep the doors closed and the temp in the van is around 75 degrees. its sweet. van also has a bed and a tv. home away from home
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I work hard and when I play heat is awsome ... only thing better than 100degree heat is the sunburn that goes along with it
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Ive got a little blue cloth like cooler that holds 2 gallons and transport the fuel in that. I add ice on the hot days like today and keep it in the shad. At home its stored in its own mini fridge. I burn through to much fuel to worry about licence. I do beleive in keeping the fuel as cool as I can till it hit the truggy/buggy tank.
The fuel actually should be the exact same temperature as it is outside.
There is absolutely no condensation if it is the same temperature as outside.
Ice will CREATE condensation lol... i mean, it IS water :P
I wanted to store it in a mini-fridge just to keep it longer, because no matter what, you keep it constantly at the same temperature with no condensation(refrigerators have compressors and condensers for a reason) at 0% humidity(almost) so yeah.
Anotehr way would be to keep it in some sort of dehumidifier-airtight thing.
I didnt say freezer, fridge is set at 50 degrees. As long as you keep the lid and the red seal for you gallon jug you need not worry about condensation. They are made air tight. Think about it, if they werent air tight we all would be screaming about fuel going bad before we could use up the gallon. Most fuel sits around any were from 2-3 months before you ever get it in your hands (most fuels). They ship from over seas, go through customs, then to distributors then out to the hobby shops were you then get the fuel.
As long as your not transporting more than 4 gallons your good no matter how its transpored, any more than 4 gallons and you need a hazmat permit.
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I'm like a squirrel, my cheeks can hold 6 tanks worth!

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