AgentGreen

help me find the hardware and lets get her done almost done the tear down... and put after run in oil in os and put it away in the shelf...

Hydro Junkie

Which hardware are you looking for? Besides engine mounts that is

AgentGreen

motor Strut and rudder are off now
attacking servo's
then il start splitting the bottom deck
from the boat !

Hydro Junkie

Am I seeing bare wood under the engine mounts? I hope it has some sort of coating on it or that bottom was toast when you bought the boat

I think we need to add sand paper and a sanding block to the list to remove some of that paint and left over wood and epoxy from the bottom of the frames. Just out of curiosity, do you have a Dremel Tool with a right angle drive?

AgentGreen

it had a coating of white the lubricantes ate it !!
there' still a brown cover but it's fading fast the bottom plate is just about done....
good thing Im doing this im finding lotsa ****...

thanks for your help

almost done stripping everything out
will be able to tell more sooon

Hydro Junkie

Too bad you're so far away. We could both be tearing into the boat if we were closer

AgentGreen

yeah man that's all the fun but your still here helping me so it's COOL just dont have your expretise on hand....

AgentGreen

any tipss for the stuffing shaft cut out the bottom of it and twist the rest out ?

Hydro Junkie

That's probably the easiest way to go. When you get the bottom off, it could help to try to remove some of the epoxy around the tube where it goes through the bulkhead and frame. I"m looking at how the radio gear was mounted. Would be much better to have all the radio gear as far forward as possible instead of having the servos all the way to the back. Can you still tell what kind of servos they are?

AgentGreen

there futaba fp-s26 indirect drive

im weighting all the stuff I removed

then cutting out around stuffing shaft from bottom deck removing some epoxy with hobby knife
and cutting the shaft in 3 places using 2 pairs of pliers to twist them out !

sounds good ?

AgentGreen

prop and strut assemble all the way to cva
was 80.03 grams

rudder assembly was 79.22

weighting servo's and mount
120g's

the boat weights noghting now !

SLAYERDUDE

What's happening Agent!
Dude you got some awesome help right here.
Boat is getting redone I see...didn't expect that!
Looks like she's going to be tip top when your done with it.
Very interesting thread, I just read the whole thing.

Hydro Junkie, thanks for helping my friend like this.
He would do the same for you anyday.
I have seen him do it time and time again with the MGT8.0 noobs.
Agent is the expert on modified MGT 8.0's. (8.19 CC)
From hardening the trans parts to grinding the turbo scoops into the crankshaft massive port work and anything else that is on the truck.
(Drilled out can. nickels for wheel adapters anyone? LOL)

So if anyone deserves your helping a noob it would be Agent.

Hydro Junkie

Your S26 was way to lite for the rudder. It only has 43.1 inch ounces of torque. You would be better off with an S3305 as it has 99 inch ounces of torque. An S148 will work for the throttle. These will require a new receiver as well. What kind of radio came with your boat?

Hydro Junkie

To be honest, I sort of enjoy helping someone like this. When I started back in 1982, I had to learn everythign by trial and error. Now I learn almost as much as I help just by reading these threads and talking to people. There are lots of people in these forums that know more than I, they just won't say anything which is really too bad. At the same time, there are several of us that like to help so it kind of balances out

AgentGreen

lol .....
got the stuffing tube out !

Hydro Junkie

Did you crush it or is it still usable?

AgentGreen

the radio was an futaba attack FP-T2NL

I never used it when I tried it 4 5 days ago....

I cut all the servo connections and put JR's to plug into my Specktrum

SR3001 on a 6V hump pack...

Im gona put a 80oz fast response on throttle
and a bigger 150+ oz fast response on the bigger rudder
will put on it....

put a 7.4V lipo in there with full telemetry to my hand held device
so I can see how hot it is out on the lake and to know if I have to cut
it or tune to Gain rpm or drop rpm to make sure the Vintage stays
good for another 26 years


That's Really cool man I think the Same way That's why I really apreciate the help !

the crush tube is done.... it was in there tight as hell ... but all the shafts and other parts are fine...

Hydro Junkie

Those are both overkill, a standard servo for the throttle is plenty while a standard sized high torque in the 95 to 110 range is plenty for your boat. Remember, you have to think lite. Heck, you could even use a mini servo for the throttle as long as it's got enough power to do the job. YOU'RE USING A SPECTRUM??????????????????? Those have proven to glitch in boats due to signal reflection off the water. There is only one version that works reliably in boats. I'll do some checking to see which one it is.

AgentGreen

maybe something bigger for throttle servo if my fail safe doesn't kit in atleast I could have a return spring that could over power the servo to stall....

that's cool no problem there Im used to land.....

as long as there digital for response im down.....

removed a few things like throttle linkage and push rod.... starting to seperate some wear areas
of the floor...


there was about a 3mm layer of epoxy around the stuffing shaft and the floor lol....

the entire telemetry is 20 30G's
good safety I would figure

that's 20 30g's I can remove by changing to a mac tuned pipe

Im using a specktrum dx3r with a 1m antenna.....
It ranged a good forever
i could only seee a tiny rooster

Hydro Junkie

Found it, Spectrum just released the MR 3000. Here's the page on it from the Spectrum website http://www.spektrumrc.com/DSM/Produc...Receivers.aspx

AgentGreen

that's pretty coool 3rd servo could use a micro for a remote valve

started seperating epoxy from bottom deck

Hydro Junkie

You mean it's coming apart that easily? This could have been really bad if it had split while running

AgentGreen

no lotsa epoxy woulda never happended but I could ove forseen something bad
in the next 30 40 hours of run time with the strut it was soft
and still is was wet too ....

Hydro Junkie

Not a good thing to find in a boat. That back end was heading for a failure if the wood was that wet

AgentGreen

yeah was leaking from the Transom.....
it split apart hitting it with the rubber end of a hex T with a hammer....
not the transome but the deck undeath it

but everything else except for cockpit is super tight
cock pit has no more glue from nitro....

i think the blocks where jb welded in !
grey **** hard as a rock!

its late so il save all the hard banging for tommorow
peace ... hope wasn't too boring..