Clutch Belle bearing issues
#1
Clutch Belle bearing issues
Ok, ever since I modded my engine, this things has crazy power and unbelievable low end, but now I'm blowing clutch Bell bearings left and right. I use the standard bearings that come with the bell. I get an hour or so on them and the just explode, i use a washer and a small bit of locktite. Is there an aftermarket bearing I should be using? Is it possible that the torque is too much for the bearings that come with bells?
When I say this thing screams I mean it, this buggy will keep with and even pass most electric trucks on track (not all but most), but now I have this bell bearing issue that is getting old fast. Hoping somebody on here can help
When I say this thing screams I mean it, this buggy will keep with and even pass most electric trucks on track (not all but most), but now I have this bell bearing issue that is getting old fast. Hoping somebody on here can help
#2
What did you do to the engine to "mod" it, and what brand and size of bearings are you using? Are you shimming your clutchbell?
Not shimming a clutchbell properly will cause bearings to fail quickly. Not oiling them every so often will cause them to fail quicker.
I run a modified Picco .28 in a 1/8 monster truck and I get about a half gallon to a set (3 - $1 AvidRC bearings) of clutch bearings if running hard. Engine break-in took about 1.25-1.5 gallons of fuel and the first set of bearings went poof at the 1gal mark, and I just changed them a few weeks ago at the 1.5gal mark. I oil the bearings every 2-3 tanks of fuel. I shim the bell for about .001-.0015" endplay and because my bell has two pinion gears on it, I can run a 3rd bearing with a special Ofna shim kit.
Not shimming a clutchbell properly will cause bearings to fail quickly. Not oiling them every so often will cause them to fail quicker.
I run a modified Picco .28 in a 1/8 monster truck and I get about a half gallon to a set (3 - $1 AvidRC bearings) of clutch bearings if running hard. Engine break-in took about 1.25-1.5 gallons of fuel and the first set of bearings went poof at the 1gal mark, and I just changed them a few weeks ago at the 1.5gal mark. I oil the bearings every 2-3 tanks of fuel. I shim the bell for about .001-.0015" endplay and because my bell has two pinion gears on it, I can run a 3rd bearing with a special Ofna shim kit.
#3
I fluted the ports, switched to a turbo head and reshaped it to a more aggressive angle, removed most of the head shims and put a 3/8 riser on the carb (similar to what you would see on prostock dragsters)
I use ofna racing 5x10x4 with the standard washer/shims the engine calls for
I use ofna racing 5x10x4 with the standard washer/shims the engine calls for
#4
Fluting the ports is bad karma. I wouldn't recommend doing that anymore. The turbo head button is a good addition, but I'd like to know what exactly you did to the head and where you got the info about the modification.
As to the clutch shims - how much end play does the bell have?
As to the clutch shims - how much end play does the bell have?
#5
This is a learning engine for me, so I'm playing round with it, a Rossi is in the near future, as for the head I carefully dremmeled a sharper angle into the rounded angle on the bottom of the button. I didn't get the information from anywhere, I just applied my knowledge from motorcycle and automotive mechanics, my theory was if I could more directly control the expansion and combustion I could generate a more efficient combustion process, it appears to have worked. As for the clutch Bell I haven't measured, just using the recommended washers from the engine diagram
#7
Modding an engine is fun but if you do not have a dyno, you will never have comparisons or figures to see what worked or not. Hearing is not always an accurate way to judge your mods.
#8
With these engines, the manifold can have a more significant influence than the pipe or even the fuel (more nitro or less oil).
#9
I agree a dyno is the only way to truly know, but it sounds better and side by side comparisons is how I judged if it did anything, I concluded it did in fact help, how much it helped specs wise I can only speculate
#10
Well all those mode mean nothing now! Just bought the Rossi rex legend 28-8 paired with a Argus TB-1 race pipe and header
Put almost $300 into an engine and pipe combo, better be worth it!!!!!
Put almost $300 into an engine and pipe combo, better be worth it!!!!!