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Old 07-15-2012, 07:19 AM
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I am planning out my first custom build to do for the website that I write for. As you can see from the title, it is going to be a mud machine that is pretty much only used in extreme off road conditions like mud, water, or sand. I would like to base the project off of a Slash 4x4, but there are other chassis that will work too. Since it's going to be used in such harsh conditions, the simpler the better. I would like it to have a semi-scale appearance but have plenty of power to throw that mud around. I already have a radio system and know how to waterproof the electronics, I'm just wanting some feedback on this. Are there any scale bodies that can be made to fit the Slash 4x4? I was wondering if I should just get a used Slash 4x4 that's already beat up and rebuild it since I'm going to be adding a lot of aftermarket stuff anyways (something like the picture below)? Would it be better to base it off of something like an SCX10 so it's more scale? What would y'all like to see this project end up like? Thanks for the feedback.
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for a mud bogger good question.
I would think solid axle would work better cause it wouldn't get stuck as easy in a rut.
And you pretty much must have big tires
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Heres one I dd.



Basedfrom one of these. its running a 2400kv motor ezrun2 35a, traxxas 8.4v nimh, HPI GRU in a Tamiya TL01B

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Ok. Thanks for the suggestion guys. Maybe I should base it off of the Stampede 4x4 instead?
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Ok. Thanks for the suggestion guys. Maybe I should base it off of the Stampede 4x4 instead?
That would be much better in my opinion, and if you use a 1/10th scale body it will be much more scale, similiar to the bogger above.
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Ok. Thanks for the suggestion guys. Maybe I should base it off of the Stampede 4x4 instead?
That would be much better in my opinion, and if you use a 1/10th scale body it will be much more scale (If you like that)

Sounds good. Yes, I would like it to look as cool as this if at all possible:
And yes I realize that that project is based off an SCX10 chassis so mine will be a little different :P
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Maybe something along the lines of these:


On the other hand I have seen some cool semi-scale slashes:




I don't know... do you want something very close to the pic you posted? Or any more specifics/ideas/bodies?

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Maybe something along the lines of these:
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On the other hand I have seen some cool semi-scale slashes:
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I don't know... do you want something very close to the pic you posted? Or any more specifics/ideas/bodies?

That second picture you posted looks really cool. I had my mind set on a 4wd vehicle, but obviously that one is 2wd and it looks pretty damn amazing in my opinion. Maybe I should base it off of a Slash 2wd VXL or a Stampede VXL? Maybe something along the lines of this just waaaay cooler and with the VXL system:
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I don't see why you couldn't so the second pic, but with more ride height, bigger wheels and 4WD...
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I don't see why you couldn't so the second pic, but with more ride height, bigger wheels and 4WD...
Well you could, but of course the cheaper the better with any project, and 2wd would no doubt be a good deal cheaper. I'm just wondering if I'm gonna be sinking this thing in mud hole after mud hole and then through 1-2 feet of water back to back constantly if it would be better to use a 2wd platform seeing that they would be much simpler. This would mean easier to clean, less expensive, less to go wrong, and ultimately may look just as impressive as a 4wd vehicle. What do you think?
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Well I don't think it would have near the bogging capability, but I don't think mud would cause many transmissions problems. I'd go with a 4x4, of course something closer to a monster truck (Tamiya Bruiser style) is going too be more scale.
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2wd will get bogged,
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Well I don't think it would have near the bogging capability, but I don't think mud would cause many transmissions problems. I'd go with a 4x4, of course something closer to a monster truck (Tamiya Bruiser style) is going too be more scale.
or even a wheely king if the tranny gets upgraded(the stress on the tranny would probably cause it to fail) probably would work fine.
or you can try and figure out how to rig up an SCX tranny (I'm currently trying this for a different project)

agree with phaximus 2wd the front end will more than likely dig in seeing there's nothing really pushing it up
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Thanks for the input guys. I appreciate it. Well, maybe I'll base it off of a 4wd chassis, but the more I think about it after cleaning my Summit when it gets wet (which takes like 2 hours to do a good job), the more I want to use a 2wd platform. I'm just afraid after the first run or two the 4wd will give me much more cleaning to do and more bearings to seize. It will probably be based off of a Slash 4x4, Stampede 4x4, or a Slash 2wd VXL. Keep the ideas coming.
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I don't understand how 4WD gives you more to clean - due to the extra diff(s)? If you're building a mudder, cleaning should be something you'll have to expect.

I'd go 4WD, solid axle, options to lock front/rear/both diffs. More complicated, more to clean, but more capable. Get that Mad Force Kruiser you want to review anyway, and mud that bad boy.
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I don't understand how 4WD gives you more to clean - due to the extra diff(s)? If you're building a mudder, cleaning should be something you'll have to expect.

I'd go 4WD, solid axle, options to lock front/rear/both diffs. More complicated, more to clean, but more capable. Get that Mad Force Kruiser you want to review anyway, and mud that bad boy.
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if you are so scared of cleaning the extra diff try sealing the seams of a solid axle with something like liquid electrical tape(or something that you can peel off when wanted) that should keep the mud, and most the water out (assuming you use shielded bearings or even bushings in this application as you don't have to worry about rust)

For my RC's that get wet I like to keep them as much plastic as possible (hence why my 6wd WK has very little metal outside the cups, and screws)
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Ok. I may go 4wd, but what platform would yall like to see it based upon?
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I would like to base it off of a Slash 4x4 or Stampede 4x4, but are there any stainless steel bearing sets available for these?
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I would like to base it off of a Slash 4x4 or Stampede 4x4, but are there any stainless steel bearing sets available for these?
FYI depending on the grade of stainless steel it can, and will rust still.
ceramic might be your best bet if seeing you really are set on using one of those models.


BTW there is one reason I wouldn't use either for your idea. The center drive shaft is in an inclosed area that mud can get in, and cause damage seeing the thing is covered by a clear piece of plexiglass that doesn't even form a seal, and is prone to breaking(this things plastic is WEAK). The one I bought I dunno what the dude did but something got in it and damaged the center drive shaft. Where as a crawler, WK, and others with open drive shafts won't have the issue. I'd even use a tamiya DF-02 with MT tires on it over the slash as the center drive shaft is enclosed better so less can get in
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lol I wouldent worry about the bearings rusting lol.... I think u will be ok, just wondering how fast do u think they are going to rust and seize???

How does it take u 2 hours to clean a summit???? personally i would just hose it off. or run it in cleanish water after the mud.

Dont think the Slash platform would be any beter than the Summit, why not use the summit as a mud basher?

I would be looking at the HPI wheelie King... that would be a good start, or even better look at the tamiya High lift trucks with bigger wheels
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I would like to base it off of a Slash 4x4 or Stampede 4x4, but are there any stainless steel bearing sets available for these?
FYI depending on the grade of stainless steel it can, and will rust still.
ceramic might be your best bet if seeing you really are set on using one of those models.


BTW there is one reason I wouldn't use either for your idea. The center drive shaft is in an inclosed area that mud can get in, and cause damage seeing the thing is covered by a clear piece of plexiglass that doesn't even form a seal, and is prone to breaking(this things plastic is WEAK). The one I bought I dunno what the dude did but something got in it and damaged the center drive shaft. Where as a crawler, WK, and others with open drive shafts won't have the issue. I'd even use a tamiya DF-02 with MT tires on it over the slash as the center drive shaft is enclosed better so less can get in
So what would you recommend basing it off of? A WK? An SCX10? What about a chep Exceed Infinity monster truck? It's only $170 with BL and I wouldn't be worried about screwing it up.
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lol I wouldent worry about the bearings rusting lol.... I think u will be ok, just wondering how fast do u think they are going to rust and seize???

How does it take u 2 hours to clean a summit???? personally i would just hose it off. or run it in cleanish water after the mud.

Dont think the Slash platform would be any beter than the Summit, why not use the summit as a mud basher?

I would be looking at the HPI wheelie King... that would be a good start, or even better look at the tamiya High lift trucks with bigger wheels
I'm not basing it off of another Summit because the Summit is expensive and it's really complicated. Like I said, the simpler the better. And it takes me 2 hours because I don't hose it off. I clean it with a tooth brush. Hosing it off would cause certain things to rust, and I want this thing to be in tip top shape.
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If u are running it in mud itsa getting wet, mote water wont make it worse, clumbed wet dirt is heaps worse than water...

check this... supprised u havent done it all ready, all my cars are dont like this.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ__cu4INbY[/youtube]
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check these, Best summit reviews out there he clears up some misconceptions

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnv4DCEE-F0[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4UndDIhChc[/youtube]
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Thanks for the videos. I'll watch them when I have time.
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