now the appeals begin
03-11-2013, 04:43 PM
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ORIGINAL: peekay
Hey,
what about taking a short video of the working vehicle, starting it and driving it around the driveway or something,
and then emailing this video to paypal to show them that the item was in fact working and not defective? It will save
you on the cost of shipping it back to paypal and also allow you to hold onto the vehicle in case you manage to
sell it..
Peekay
Hey,
what about taking a short video of the working vehicle, starting it and driving it around the driveway or something,
and then emailing this video to paypal to show them that the item was in fact working and not defective? It will save
you on the cost of shipping it back to paypal and also allow you to hold onto the vehicle in case you manage to
sell it..
Peekay
Im sorry, but police have better things to do.
Paypal wont take my word that the model is in good condition, so they are not going to believe any video I make either.
03-11-2013, 06:04 PM
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RE: now the appeals begin
[quote]ORIGINAL: nitrosportsandrunner
ORIGINAL: peekay
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Im sorry, but police have better things to do.
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Im sorry, but police have better things to do.
03-11-2013, 07:28 PM
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ORIGINAL: mike31
This is easy. From now on lose Paypal and take a money order or bank check. I do it like that with no issues. Just my opinion.
This is easy. From now on lose Paypal and take a money order or bank check. I do it like that with no issues. Just my opinion.
1. You receive a counterfeit check for merchandise, and the check actually clears. Money is in your account and you feel safe.
2. Then the buyer strategically asks for a refund just before the item ships, and you figure why not, and send the guy his money back.
3. Then a week later, the retarded bank figures out that the check was a counterfeit and takes the money out of your account. It's on you.
Maybe eBay has a better system, but this scam is all over Craigslist. It's an old one, so maybe they've wised up, dunno.
03-12-2013, 07:58 AM
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RE: now the appeals begin
I hear that !
I have been burned the last three times I sold here and on ebay, buyer gets item uses it for a couple weeks then decides he wants his money back then makes a dispute with paypal.
HAs anyone ebey seen paypal side with a seller....???
I have been burned the last three times I sold here and on ebay, buyer gets item uses it for a couple weeks then decides he wants his money back then makes a dispute with paypal.
HAs anyone ebey seen paypal side with a seller....???
03-12-2013, 11:10 AM
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ORIGINAL: Bloodsport
I hear that !
I have been burned the last three times I sold here and on ebay, buyer gets item uses it for a couple weeks then decides he wants his money back then makes a dispute with paypal.
HAs anyone ebey seen paypal side with a seller....???
I hear that !
I have been burned the last three times I sold here and on ebay, buyer gets item uses it for a couple weeks then decides he wants his money back then makes a dispute with paypal.
HAs anyone ebey seen paypal side with a seller....???
I gave paypal the Tracking number and the claim was closed in my favor.
But when it comes to a "not as described" claim, it is most likely they will side with the buyer. Unless the buyer slips up and tells them "i dont want it" or "i changed my mind" they will win. All they have to do is say it is broken in some way and paypal will let them return it and get their money back.
Paypal refunded them as soon as their tracking number showed it as delivered. Paypal should wait untill the seller responds saying it was recieved and as described by the buyer.
Again, all these policies are OK if you are a high volume seller on ebay. If you sell more than 20-30k per month then a return or 2 wont hurt you. Selling 2-4k per month I dont make enough to risk getting a $200 nitro rc returned to me.
I still have my store open for now, But I have removed all RTR models. Just selling parts for now. Lower costs items for lower risk.
03-12-2013, 07:08 PM
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RE: now the appeals begin
by the sounds paypal just want a affidavit/statutory declaration signed by a police officer. doesent take long, u basickly sware on the bible saying ur stament is truthfull.
It only takes 5min or so. And its there Job, so its not like they have anything better to do. they problary sign affidavit all day for all kinds of resons. if its not yourse they are signing its someone els's.
It only takes 5min or so. And its there Job, so its not like they have anything better to do. they problary sign affidavit all day for all kinds of resons. if its not yourse they are signing its someone els's.
03-12-2013, 09:47 PM
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ORIGINAL: phmaximus
by the sounds paypal just want a affidavit/statutory declaration signed by a police officer. doesent take long, u basickly sware on the bible saying ur stament is truthfull.
It only takes 5min or so. And its there Job, so its not like they have anything better to do. they problary sign affidavit all day for all kinds of resons. if its not yourse they are signing its someone els's.
by the sounds paypal just want a affidavit/statutory declaration signed by a police officer. doesent take long, u basickly sware on the bible saying ur stament is truthfull.
It only takes 5min or so. And its there Job, so its not like they have anything better to do. they problary sign affidavit all day for all kinds of resons. if its not yourse they are signing its someone els's.
you should see them curse when they come to where I work to sign paperwork the state forces us to get signed by them(if we don't we get shut down...)... I can only imagine what they would say for a returned RC lol
03-13-2013, 02:48 AM
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man, That sucks, I had no idea.
Im slowly learning the USA legal system, Got to love Judge Judy lol
one thing that ive found concerning, Everything in California gives u cancer... But its only known by California??? I see it on so many products these days.
well im starting to undestand why nitrosport is reluctant
Im slowly learning the USA legal system, Got to love Judge Judy lol
one thing that ive found concerning, Everything in California gives u cancer... But its only known by California??? I see it on so many products these days.
well im starting to undestand why nitrosport is reluctant
03-13-2013, 04:53 AM
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RE: now the appeals begin
ORIGINAL: phmaximus
one thing that ive found concerning, Everything in California gives u cancer... But its only known by California??? I see it on so many products these days.
one thing that ive found concerning, Everything in California gives u cancer... But its only known by California??? I see it on so many products these days.
Needless to say there are some very eccentric people in california.
03-13-2013, 05:01 AM
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ORIGINAL: SyCo_VeNoM
maybe in the land down under that its their job, and they got nothing better to do, but in the US the cops have PLENTY to do(well at least by me [:@])
you should see them curse when they come to where I work to sign paperwork the state forces us to get signed by them(if we don't we get shut down...)... I can only imagine what they would say for a returned RC lol
ORIGINAL: phmaximus
by the sounds paypal just want a affidavit/statutory declaration signed by a police officer. doesent take long, u basickly sware on the bible saying ur stament is truthfull.
It only takes 5min or so. And its there Job, so its not like they have anything better to do. they problary sign affidavit all day for all kinds of resons. if its not yourse they are signing its someone els's.
by the sounds paypal just want a affidavit/statutory declaration signed by a police officer. doesent take long, u basickly sware on the bible saying ur stament is truthfull.
It only takes 5min or so. And its there Job, so its not like they have anything better to do. they problary sign affidavit all day for all kinds of resons. if its not yourse they are signing its someone els's.
you should see them curse when they come to where I work to sign paperwork the state forces us to get signed by them(if we don't we get shut down...)... I can only imagine what they would say for a returned RC lol
This is why alot of products say that. We watch judge Judy too lol
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California's Proposition 65 - the Safe Drinking Water and Toxic Enforcement Act - was passed by voter initiative in 1986. Proposition 65 includes a requirement that the governor of California publish a list of chemicals known to the state to cause cancer or reproductive toxicity. Listed chemicals cannot be discharged into sources of drinking water, and warnings must be provided before exposing the public to any significant amount of a listed chemical.
Chemicals are placed on the Proposition 65 list in one of three ways:
1. Recommendation by the state's qualified experts. The state Science Advisory Board includes two subcommittees that review toxicity data and identify carcinogens and reproductive toxicants.
2. Identification by recognized authoritative bodies, including
- U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (U.S. EPA)
- U.S. Food and Drug Administration (U.S. FDA)
- National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH)
- National Toxicology Program (NTP)
- International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC)
3. Requirement by state or federal government agencies that the chemical be labeled or identified as a carcinogen or reproductive toxicant.
Chemicals are placed on the Proposition 65 list in one of three ways:
1. Recommendation by the state's qualified experts. The state Science Advisory Board includes two subcommittees that review toxicity data and identify carcinogens and reproductive toxicants.
2. Identification by recognized authoritative bodies, including
- U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (U.S. EPA)
- U.S. Food and Drug Administration (U.S. FDA)
- National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH)
- National Toxicology Program (NTP)
- International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC)
3. Requirement by state or federal government agencies that the chemical be labeled or identified as a carcinogen or reproductive toxicant.
03-13-2013, 05:06 AM
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RE: now the appeals begin
ORIGINAL: The Mad Modder
Yeah, it seems that California knows about a secret conspiracy; manufacturers are plotting to kill us all with cancer inducing products, lol.
Needless to say there are some very eccentric people in california.
ORIGINAL: phmaximus
one thing that ive found concerning, Everything in California gives u cancer... But its only known by California??? I see it on so many products these days.
one thing that ive found concerning, Everything in California gives u cancer... But its only known by California??? I see it on so many products these days.
Needless to say there are some very eccentric people in california.
03-13-2013, 06:16 AM
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Well,
I got $50 from paypal...
and sold the model. After fees/shipping Ill end up with $110 from it.
So I got back $160 of $210. I suppose I did pretty well all things considered. But man, what a pain.
Ive removed all models from my ebay store. Im just gonna sell parts for now. Parts sell better anyway, and there is less risk selling them.
I got $50 from paypal...
and sold the model. After fees/shipping Ill end up with $110 from it.
So I got back $160 of $210. I suppose I did pretty well all things considered. But man, what a pain.
Ive removed all models from my ebay store. Im just gonna sell parts for now. Parts sell better anyway, and there is less risk selling them.
03-13-2013, 07:44 AM
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RE: now the appeals begin
ORIGINAL: nitrosportsandrunner
Well,
I got $50 from paypal...
and sold the model. After fees/shipping Ill end up with $110 from it.
So I got back $160 of $210. I suppose I did pretty well all things considered. But man, what a pain.
Ive removed all models from my ebay store. Im just gonna sell parts for now. Parts sell better anyway, and there is less risk selling them.
Well,
I got $50 from paypal...
and sold the model. After fees/shipping Ill end up with $110 from it.
So I got back $160 of $210. I suppose I did pretty well all things considered. But man, what a pain.
Ive removed all models from my ebay store. Im just gonna sell parts for now. Parts sell better anyway, and there is less risk selling them.
03-13-2013, 11:14 AM
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ORIGINAL: mopartybob
Good for you, 50.00 is better than nuthin.... can you explain why they settled on that amount and did it come from the buyer or ???
Good for you, 50.00 is better than nuthin.... can you explain why they settled on that amount and did it come from the buyer or ???
Its what they offered because I told them "due to the nature of the item I could not re-sell it at full value."
I told them I wouldnt get more than $100 for it (which was pretty much the case) so they offered $50.
syco, at least if someone is lame enough to try that, I wont be out hundreds of dollars.
03-13-2013, 01:51 PM
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ORIGINAL: mopartybob
Cool, and thats rather magnaminous of them also.... [X(]
Cool, and thats rather magnaminous of them also.... [X(]
As with many big companies, you have to make a big stink to get what you want.
03-16-2013, 10:14 AM
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RE: now the appeals begin
ORIGINAL: phmaximus
man, That sucks, I had no idea.
Im slowly learning the USA legal system, Got to love Judge Judy lol
one thing that ive found concerning, Everything in California gives u cancer... But its only known by California??? I see it on so many products these days.
well im starting to undestand why nitrosport is reluctant
man, That sucks, I had no idea.
Im slowly learning the USA legal system, Got to love Judge Judy lol
one thing that ive found concerning, Everything in California gives u cancer... But its only known by California??? I see it on so many products these days.
well im starting to undestand why nitrosport is reluctant
That California Cancer thing is just the result of a stupid ballot measure that passed, requiring anything that ostensibly can cause cancer (CO2, carbon monoxide, etc.) and anything that contains or emits such, must be labled. Complete waste of money.
03-16-2013, 02:00 PM
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ORIGINAL: EXT2Rob
HA! IF ONLY the US legal system worked AS WELL as Judge Judy! We'd have a lot less losers clogging up the system. Feh!
That California Cancer thing is just the result of a stupid ballot measure that passed, requiring anything that ostensibly can cause cancer (CO2, carbon monoxide, etc.) and anything that contains or emits such, must be labled. Complete waste of money.
ORIGINAL: phmaximus
man, That sucks, I had no idea.
Im slowly learning the USA legal system, Got to love Judge Judy lol
one thing that ive found concerning, Everything in California gives u cancer... But its only known by California??? I see it on so many products these days.
well im starting to undestand why nitrosport is reluctant
man, That sucks, I had no idea.
Im slowly learning the USA legal system, Got to love Judge Judy lol
one thing that ive found concerning, Everything in California gives u cancer... But its only known by California??? I see it on so many products these days.
well im starting to undestand why nitrosport is reluctant
That California Cancer thing is just the result of a stupid ballot measure that passed, requiring anything that ostensibly can cause cancer (CO2, carbon monoxide, etc.) and anything that contains or emits such, must be labled. Complete waste of money.
cali has some of the dumbest laws I've ever read.
