ORIGINAL: big JC



That's just insane. What I don't understand is how Craigslist and pawn shops can sell stolen merchandise. Anybody know why the laws are so slack regarding this? Certainly if thieves had no where to pedal stolen merchandise it would substantially cut down on crime including violent crime. I HATE thieves. Had an incident with one face to face involving my girlfriend. I bounced him off his head and he spent quite a long time in the hospital and has permanent damage. The police and prosecutor came after me hard. Several trips to court later I won, charges dropped. The world is backwards.

ORIGINAL: SyCo_VeNoM

pawn shops can't
trust me my brother used to own one like 8 years ago
Here's how a pawn shop is SUPPOSED to work(well at least where I live). When someone sells you an item you have to take their ID(state or drivers license), and make a photo copy in the purchase log that has to be attached to the ID is the serial numbers of everything you bought, and description. From what I remember he then had to enter the info into a database, and hold the items for 30 days in case someone reported it stolen. If that happened the police would come, and pick up the merchandise, and take the contact info for the person who sold it, and the shop would lose the money which is also why they pay next to nothing for stuff off people.
Gold is a little different they would have to hold it, but that was hard to trace. Also most gold that they bought was just melted down as it was in bad shape.

Now if a shop owner was caught buying merchandise they knew was stolen they would be arrested, and that happened a few times from what I was told to the pawn shop that was down the street from my brother. He also occasionally dealt with a shop owner who ignored all the laws, and would put stuff sold to him right on sale(my brother mainly bought broken PS2's, and xbox's off him for parts so I could repair the ones he got in his shop).

Craigslist doesn't sell a single thing so I dunno why you say they sell stolen merchandise. Now people selling stuff on craigslist is different, and not everything there is stolen so basically a cop would have to visit every seller, and check the serial numbers of everything being sold vs the database which is not feasible.

ORIGINAL: big JC


Yep yep I'm aware of all that and didn't mean craigslist sold stuff directly exactly. Here's the problem with that ''system''. Most people don't know the serial # of their stuff when it gets stolen. Most petty items thieves steal for resale is electronics. Most thieves know you don't have your serial #'s written down and resell your stuff a couple towns down in relative anonymity. The only data base the authorities use to track stolen goods is the serial #. See the problem here? Yeah well so does everybody else including your local pawn shop. Furthermore, craigslist has zero checks & balances. This is serious stuff, people die every day, every hour, every minute in direct relation to thieves stealing stuff with the intent to profit. The solution to me seems real easy. If you can't produce a receipt, you can't sell your stuff on ebay or the pawn shop, or craigslist. Problem solved......crime rates drop everywhere, and there would even be less drug addiction.

ORIGINAL: SyCo_VeNoM


umm that system is the only one you can have. Its not broke the people are broke. Most box's have the serial number written on them for major purchases. I don't chuck a box till after the warranty is up in case it has to be shipped back.

Don't take this the wrong way now that you can't produce a receipt thing is completely 100% idiotic. I can't produce receipts for any of my RC's(or 98% of what I own), and after the warranty is up I chuck those with the box's. Plus how many receipts have have you seen that are legible after a few months? Also if say you then buy something 2nd hand off me, and want to sell it later then what do? Do you think I would give you my receipt with my info on it?
Also what stops people from making fake receipts? majority of the ones I get are invoices printed on standard paper on a laser jet from companies. What isn't stopping thieves from just making a knockoff of a companies letterhead, and printing a fake receipt?

Then also how many people would then just tape the receipt to the item itself so they don't lose it cause in case they want to sell it some day.


Also crime rates along with drug addiction would not drop in the slightest they would just go to mugging people, and forcing them to ATMs to withdraw all their money before potentially killing em. Basically crimes would probably get more violent with more victims losing their lives instead of posessions.

ORIGINAL: SyCo_VeNoM


umm that system is the only one you can have. Its not broke the people are broke. Most box's have the serial number written on them for major purchases. I don't chuck a box till after the warranty is up in case it has to be shipped back.

Don't take this the wrong way now that you can't produce a receipt thing is completely 100% idiotic. I can't produce receipts for any of my RC's(or 98% of what I own), and after the warranty is up I chuck those with the box's. Plus how many receipts have have you seen that are legible after a few months? Also if say you then buy something 2nd hand off me, and want to sell it later then what do? Do you think I would give you my receipt with my info on it?
Also what stops people from making fake receipts? majority of the ones I get are invoices printed on standard paper on a laser jet from companies. What isn't stopping thieves from just making a knockoff of a companies letterhead, and printing a fake receipt?

Then also how many people would then just tape the receipt to the item itself so they don't lose it cause in case they want to sell it some day.


Also crime rates along with drug addiction would not drop in the slightest they would just go to mugging people, and forcing them to ATMs to withdraw all their money before potentially killing em. Basically crimes would probably get more violent with more victims losing their lives instead of posessions.