Orim

Hey all,

I am new to RC cars/trucks i would like to get RC car or truck 1/10 i think would be ok? i did little research i would go with electric rc but i dont know which one to chose for beginner? budget is around $200 but also i would like to add to car snow plow?

thanks

mattster1971

I don't think you would be able to get a vehicle capable of pushing a snow plow with motor and esc for under 200

Orim

ok how much would be ?

EXT2Rob

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You aren't going to be able to find something to use as a snow plow just "off the shelf". You gotta BUILD it.
Have a look at this thread: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-c...snow-plow.html

Orim

thats ok i could build it lol but what about truck? is there something powerful up to 300?

trucks :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Redcat-Racin...MAAOSw~gRVsXQp

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-HPI-Raci...0AAMXQVT9TBl0d

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Traxxas-Stam...gAAOSwp5JWaVf4

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLACKOUT-XTE...MAAOSwDNdVnv~3

I could get this one ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/3315102...chn=ps&lpid=82

or build it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVDE3lOtY74

SyCo_VeNoM

depends how deep you want to push
fine dusting a cheaper vehicle will do
thing is you are gonna need pretty decent diffs, and transmission as snow will put a lot of stress on the components.

There was a guy years ago that made an impressive RC snowplow from what I remember his RC alone cost over $800 not counting the custom snowplow he crafted. The sucker could plow when the snow was like 1 inch deep though.


As for the snowplow linked its made to hook on one of RC4WD's trucks, but has adapters for an SCX10 (I was planning to get it originally)
The RC's linked IMO would suck ass for what you plan

The Wheely king would be the best option, but it would require a new frame, tires, shocks, links, and transmission at this point better off to just get an SCX10 as you will end up using a SCX10 rail kit, and transmission either way(and its not fun to hook the scx 10 tranny to WK diffs talking from experience here). Basically the only thing that would be usable from the WK is the axles, motor, ESC, and radio(not the servo as it sucks ass).

The stampede no it wouldn't work well at all for this
As for the redcat... could just send me the money instead of throwing it away like that

EXT2Rob

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Depending on where you are, and whether you have a hobby store nearby, the Traxxas has the best after market support. Or th HPI. Yeah that blade would be what you want. Up to you how to mount it. Look at that guy's thread. I think he added weight to the truck, and geared it low for torque. I think he also removed the shocks to make it solid so the blade would dig into the snow better.

EXT2Rob

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What Syco said.

Orim

teraxxas is gone so HPI is it strong rc car? i would try that snow plow but also i would like to have a fun when there is no snow? i am in NJ.

EXT2Rob

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Yeah, the HPI is a strong truck. But you might want to look at the Axial SCX10 like Syco said. It's a great platform for many custom builds. Google "Building RC snowplow" and research a little to see what you're up against.

Orim

hm i dont want to spend that much on my first car LOL so it would HPI work for snow and also fun? or is there any other truck would you suggest ?
thanks

SyCo_VeNoM

the wheely king is a blast in the snow
Kinda wish I kept mine a Wheely king just for it (I turned it into something else) the large light tires, and 4wd make it fly over snow pretty easy, and if you have issues you can lock the diffs with an optional part(or use superglue upto you diff locker is easier to remove though)

Only thing is after each run you will need to put it in the bath tub, and hose all the snow, and wetspots down (as I'm assuming they use rock salt on the streets), dry it off, and lube up all the metal parts with wd40

Also I'm 99.9% sure that version of the WK has waterproof electronics.


Side note some of the SCX10 RTRs cost just as much as the stampede you linked, but adding in the plow, plow mount, servo, radio(as I think the RTR only has a 2 channel) would run it over $420 total easily

Orim

Yes they use salt for streets lol

so is there any other trucks that would you suggest? HPI wont come with radio ? 2 channel is no good?

SyCo_VeNoM

the wheely king does come with a 2 channel radio. That needing a radio thing was the SCX10 RTR if you did the plow idea then you would need a 3 channel radio (1 to control the plow up or down) but no plow, and running stock the stock controllers do well enough.

as for recommendations in the price range not really
I don't recommend the brushed stampede mainly cause its brushed. I own a Stampede 4X4, and honestly can't imagine a brushed motor lasting very long in it as that thing is hard even on brushless motors. Also with snow its suspension would suck.


Only thing with the Wheelyking is it has a high center of gravity so it will do wheelies very easily, but it also has the tendency to flip over sideways if you turn going too fast. If you ever watched a monster jam video with MT's jumping around that is how the wheely king acts
With its nice big tires you will be hard pressed to break it as the tires absorb a lot of the impact, and the plastic is pretty flexible deflecting most the energy harmlessly.

Orim

so is there any other truck good for fun and snow?

SyCo_VeNoM

In that budget not really

2wd's are pretty much out unless you feel like buying skis for the front, and something like sandpaws for the rear.

IMO WK is best bang for the buck for what you want as I wouldn't put no expensive ass hard to work on vehicle in the snow.

Orim

ok what is IMO WK? is there anything good for about 300?
what about this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-HPI-Raci...l0d&rmvSB=true

RustyUs

IMO =In My Opinion
WK=Wheely King

phmaximus

sorry guys...I disagree.
U dont need a crawler/trail truck to push snow... one of the guys here (diehard) did it with a $120 HBX Cross Tiger (tamiya TL01B clone)

for a cheap build, If u lock the diffs on the redcat it will work just as good as a scx10.
for plowing u dont need solid axles and massive amounts of flex, in fact, u dont actually need any suspension what so ever
and they tyres on a crawler are really going to struggle compared to monster truck tyres

Personally if its just for a bit of fun... i would recommend finding the biggest and cheapest rc monster truck, lock the diffs, do some waterproofing and fit a Gear reduction gearbox


here is the one i made reference to... (DieHard's)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3O1xlpmLgI

Orim

wow thats cool, that truck is not available anymore although there is not going to be snow all the time lol so i would like to get something that i would have some fun if there is no snow LOL something cool and fast too

Orim

so any suggestions for truck around 300?

EXT2Rob

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Look at something like the Redcat model. Thanks phmaximus for finding that video of Nate's. That's what I was looking for.

A wheelie king is kind of a one trick pony, isn't it? If the OP want's something that is versatile, but heavy enough for occasional snow plow duty, wouldn't a HPI Savage be better?

Orim

i see there is not many good one in range 200 tho which one is good from below? what else should i look for before getting RC? can i upgrade any of those?

http://www.rchobbyexplosion.com/Trax...tra67054-1.htm

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-HPI-Raci...-/331149946218
or
http://www.rcplanet.com/traxxas_summ...jRcaAngj8P8HAQ

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Blackout-XBE...0AAOSwu4BVhbKi

DieHarder

Hey, I recognize that.

Phmaximus is right, you don't need a crawler to push snow. But if I was going to build a plow truck again, I wouldn't start with the HBX Bonzer. I mean it literally is a clone of a Tamiya on-road car with monster truck wheels/tires and a truck body. It was geared to the moon. It took a good amount of upgrading, mostly in the drivetrain, to get it somewhat reliable in plowing snow. If I were to build another one, metal gears would be the first thing on my list. At least something that has the upgradable option for them anyways. I did pick up an aluminum spur gear to run in this, but outside of that and the pinion, the diff, idler, driveshaft gear, and front gearbox gears are all plastic with metal diff internals using spline drive.

Phmaximus - It runs good though, thanks to the aluminum motor mount you sent me. Man, I couldn't find that anywhere, thing works like a champ! I put a lot of hours on it this past summer pulling a trailer and it still runs smooth and strong. Really appreciate that!

So yeah, get something 4WD with the metal gears option. A crawler is really pretty nice for plowing because of the frame that gives unlimited plow mounting options, the locked diffs for true 4x4, and it's already geared for torque so a huge-power motor isn't all that necessary. The problem is finding a decent crawler for less than $300 and leaving you with enough extra $$$ in the budget for servos (or a servo) and materials to build your plow. That's a tight budget. You might be able to find a used Axial SCX10 or comp crawler on eBay or Craiglist. That would be a good place to start. The value of new RCs drops like a rock right after it's been bought and labeled used. Sometimes people sell broken stuff really cheap because they don't know how or want to spend the time fixing it when it's really not the expensive of a part. Make sure whatever you get is hobby grade and has parts support.

As for new, I'd suggest the following:

Axial SCX10 Deadbolt - http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXEDPP&P=ML Use coupon code 014DT to get $30 off, bring it to $269.99 w/ free shipping. Use the extra $30 and maybe a little more for a decent plow lift servo. Might want to grab a set of Hot Racing tranny gears to beef it up a little. - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Axial-AX10-S...oAAOSw9N1V0MO6 And slip this in the budget somehow - http://spcracingbatteries.com/index....d=93&search=3S Altogether with what you'll spend on plow materials/servo, you're looking at around $400.

Traxxas Telluride - http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...=LW6706**&P=ML Comes with a battery, so you can eliminate that cost. Also has some metal gears to eliminate most of that cost as well. So with that, you could get it for $269.99 shipped and spend the rest on a plow servo and materials. I'm not a Traxxas guy, but this could be the cheapest reliable option.

Exceed 1/8 6x6 MadTorque Crawler - http://www.nitrorcx.com/03c20-madtor...d-rtr-24g.html It doesn't list having metal gears, but with six drive wheels and the load being distributed more, it might not need them. Could use a 2S lipo from SPC or a similar company instead of the 3300mah NiMh battery that it comes with. I don't highly recommend this though, but it would work.

Then there's 4WD trucks like the HPI Savage Flux - http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXBFNA&P=ML , the Wheelie King, or any of the Traxxas trucks, all of which can be modified with a gear reduction unit (GRU) very easily. My truck in the video uses a 4:1 GRU that takes the speed of the motor and reduces it to 1/4 of what it was. It also gives out 4 times the torque of what the motor would do without the GRU. This allows you to slow down a highly geared truck and get loads of torque out of it. Only thing is, the drivetrain takes a beating and undergoes lots of stress, which is why a metal gear drivetrain is preferred (plastic spurs are ok, as you need a breaking point).

For lifting the plow, you'll need a 3 channel radio like Syco mention earlier. I run the FlySky GT3B and it's great. -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Flysky-FS-GT...wAAOSw9mFWIOeA

$300 is a tight budget, but you can do it with the right truck and the right deal. $400 would get you a nicer truck and probably a more reliable one. But if you don't have the money, you don't have the money and a cheaper option could work out for ya.

Check out Rusty's plow build. He pushes it with an SCX10 and it's a pretty affordable setup, only he uses a winch instead of a servo for plow lift. - http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-e...snow-plow.html

DieHarder

The Traxxas Stampede is a good truck for plowing. So is the Savage Flux. I don't hear too much on the 1/16 Summit, but it might not be all that bad. The Blackout XBE looks off brand. I've heard of their products a little bit, but I'm given the impression that they aren't quite as hobby-grade as any others that you listed.