Mixing your own fuel
12-10-2009, 09:43 PM
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RE: Mixing your own fuel
ORIGINAL: theRCreverend
klotz is good, but too expensive in my opinion. Buy it from someone else. Hint: check with manufacturers who sell soap making ingredients
I bought it in bulk for our 55 gallon batch
ORIGINAL: rcinthesun
I've always used Klotz and have never found anything wrong with it - nor have I hear anything negative about it. So What?
I've always used Klotz and have never found anything wrong with it - nor have I hear anything negative about it. So What?
I bought it in bulk for our 55 gallon batch
12-10-2009, 09:45 PM
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ORIGINAL: pmoen70
I decided to try just methanol and castor oil. Works great! I didn't do any machining, but I did remove the shims. I did notice a slight drop in power, but I tend to run engines that are overpowered for the airframe anyway. I bought a 5 gallon can for, I think, somewhere around $35 in the summer of 2009.
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I decided to try just methanol and castor oil. Works great! I didn't do any machining, but I did remove the shims. I did notice a slight drop in power, but I tend to run engines that are overpowered for the airframe anyway. I bought a 5 gallon can for, I think, somewhere around $35 in the summer of 2009.
Paul
If you're not racing then there's no reason to even consider machining. Many of these good racing mills overpower the cars they're in, so with them you can probably just switch to no nitro withoutmachining and still race well at your club.
12-11-2009, 03:59 AM
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RE: Mixing your own fuel
hey guys this link will help you in your nitro mixing venture http://www.nitrorc.com/default2.asp?...rc.com/fuelws/
05-16-2010, 07:44 AM
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ORIGINAL: fatmanvw
Ok l'm intrigued i understand everything except what Klotz oil to use
Also I'm wondering what the ratio would be if i used Klotz Nitroil
Ok l'm intrigued i understand everything except what Klotz oil to use
Also I'm wondering what the ratio would be if i used Klotz Nitroil
05-16-2010, 04:38 PM
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RE: Mixing your own fuel
Do you use an empty 1 gal?? Is this creating your own fuel or mixing cause I want to make my own
So it's like add 2 1/2 cups of castor oil and the rest of 3/4 of the gallon fill it with methanol which is alchol?
So it's like add 2 1/2 cups of castor oil and the rest of 3/4 of the gallon fill it with methanol which is alchol?
05-17-2010, 06:01 PM
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Do you use an empty 1 gal?? Is this creating your own fuel or mixing cause I want to make my own
So it's like add 2 1/2 cups of castor oil and the rest of 3/4 of the gallon fill it with methanol which is alchol?
Do you use an empty 1 gal?? Is this creating your own fuel or mixing cause I want to make my own
So it's like add 2 1/2 cups of castor oil and the rest of 3/4 of the gallon fill it with methanol which is alchol?
05-17-2010, 06:15 PM
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Hey are the carb needles to the right of the engine because i get a 21 engine and it kind of eat the gas fast but the entrace from the gas to the engine i have that one almost closed cause i need more torque than top speed...
05-17-2010, 08:53 PM
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RE: Mixing your own fuel
I was planning to use this one http://www.largescalerc.com/klotzr-5...2cycleoil.aspx
if you get a better one let me know please and I want to create my own cause on this damn island the hobbi shop don't have it any more ;( but I get 1 gal bottles from the old gas and do you think by mixing this one Klotz +methanol it will give me enough to run my engine?? + maybe I might add some extra nitro
if you get a better one let me know please and I want to create my own cause on this damn island the hobbi shop don't have it any more ;( but I get 1 gal bottles from the old gas and do you think by mixing this one Klotz +methanol it will give me enough to run my engine?? + maybe I might add some extra nitro
05-19-2010, 09:45 PM
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ORIGINAL: fatmanvw
since methanol absorbs water what be the bet thing to store it in?
since methanol absorbs water what be the bet thing to store it in?
05-25-2010, 11:13 PM
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iam moe in wichita ks. i have been mixing my own nitro for 9 mo. 1. you do not save money. 2. you cant take so many oz of nitro ad so many oz of methanol, the percents will NOT be right you have to use a hydrometer AND compensate for temperature. most meters are $70-80. 3. methanol can be hard to find some times. i was lucky wichita has a lot drag racers, i found a speed shop that has methanol for $2.7 a gal. also nitro , methanol is toxic i large amounts, so if you spill a lot on you , you WILL feel sick for a while.. NOTE: I DO NOT RECOMEND MIXING YOUR OWN FUEL, IT CAN BE DANGEROUS, KEEP AWAY FROM KIDS AND PETS. IN DAY LIGHT A METHANOL FIRE CAN NOT BE SEEN.. HOWEVER A METHANOL FIRE CAN BE PUT OUT WITH WATER. these cats have the fuels you need. www.torcoproducts.com there methanol is high priced.
05-26-2010, 06:56 PM
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iam moe in wichita ks. i have been mixing my own nitro for 9 mo. 1. you do not save money. 2. you cant take so many oz of nitro ad so many oz of methanol, the percents will NOT be right you have to use a hydrometer AND compensate for temperature. most meters are $70-80. 3. methanol can be hard to find some times. i was lucky wichita has a lot drag racers, i found a speed shop that has methanol for $2.7 a gal. also nitro , methanol is toxic i large amounts, so if you spill a lot on you , you WILL feel sick for a while.. NOTE: I DO NOT RECOMEND MIXING YOUR OWN FUEL, IT CAN BE DANGEROUS, KEEP AWAY FROM KIDS AND PETS. IN DAY LIGHT A METHANOL FIRE CAN NOT BE SEEN.. HOWEVER A METHANOL FIRE CAN BE PUT OUT WITH WATER. these cats have the fuels you need. www.torcoproducts.com there methanol is high priced.
iam moe in wichita ks. i have been mixing my own nitro for 9 mo. 1. you do not save money. 2. you cant take so many oz of nitro ad so many oz of methanol, the percents will NOT be right you have to use a hydrometer AND compensate for temperature. most meters are $70-80. 3. methanol can be hard to find some times. i was lucky wichita has a lot drag racers, i found a speed shop that has methanol for $2.7 a gal. also nitro , methanol is toxic i large amounts, so if you spill a lot on you , you WILL feel sick for a while.. NOTE: I DO NOT RECOMEND MIXING YOUR OWN FUEL, IT CAN BE DANGEROUS, KEEP AWAY FROM KIDS AND PETS. IN DAY LIGHT A METHANOL FIRE CAN NOT BE SEEN.. HOWEVER A METHANOL FIRE CAN BE PUT OUT WITH WATER. these cats have the fuels you need. www.torcoproducts.com there methanol is high priced.
09-12-2010, 01:50 PM
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to: skrilla. your point that mixing may be cheaper for some is well taken. i just got through mixing two 40% 18 oz batches. then tryed to mix a batch of 50%. something went wrong and think i ended up with 70%, but not sure. i checked it 4 times got a defferant no each time. i have friend that has 4 top fuel motorcycles, i will have to get his help. just be careful. BUT i still say dont do your own mixing.
09-12-2010, 05:46 PM
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Dont mean to sound like a dick but Ill take the word of the guy showing more experience (IE +7800 posts as opposed to less than 250)
ORIGINAL: cool-joe
Then they're not, like I said.
They've made automobiles run off deep-fryer grease, but that doesn't mean they were designed to or run as well as they were intended to either.
This discussion was first had almost two years ago, when there first started being a nitro shortage. One major drag racing series found itself on the verge of being cancelled because they couldn't get nitromethane. About the same time RCnitro fuel jumped in price, as a direct result of the nitro shortage because the lone U.S. nitro supplier was getting out of the business and the remaining importer was located in China which was doing things to cutting back on companies that producted environmentally harmfull products, nitormethane being one of them because of the then upcoming Olympics. But the price has remained high, again, because there is no U.S. producer.
ORIGINAL: DaveG55
Of course shimming and tuning is different.
Of course shimming and tuning is different.
They've made automobiles run off deep-fryer grease, but that doesn't mean they were designed to or run as well as they were intended to either.
This discussion was first had almost two years ago, when there first started being a nitro shortage. One major drag racing series found itself on the verge of being cancelled because they couldn't get nitromethane. About the same time RCnitro fuel jumped in price, as a direct result of the nitro shortage because the lone U.S. nitro supplier was getting out of the business and the remaining importer was located in China which was doing things to cutting back on companies that producted environmentally harmfull products, nitormethane being one of them because of the then upcoming Olympics. But the price has remained high, again, because there is no U.S. producer.