spazzyfry123

The question is-which would you get? If you got the NTC3 kit and

got a .12 race engine (you put the engine in that you would

recomend for a decent price a good one and post it). or you

got the Serpent 705 with the engine it recomends and some

radio gear that totals around $750. if you go the NTC3 and put

some serious stuff into it to just totally deck out the NTC3 for a

total of $750, would this NTC3 smoke the Serpent? i am trying to

stay around the $700 range. I am sorry if i confused you, i just

cant think of how to put this into words. Maybe if the NTC3 had

the hop-ups to equal the price of the serpent, which would win?

spazzyfry123

the engines i am looking at are the team orion .12's (wasp) and the o.s. .12 tr (p)-t turbo head. this is a link to a towerhobbies page that has all of these engines on it http://www.towerhobbies.com/listings/cat-cat-g.html
look at the first 2 engines and go down to the o.s. .12 tr's
thanks

soapsuds43

orions wasp are TRASH they suck in power both HP and tourq but are redicoulsy over priced stick to OS there a quality product that will last if taken care of

pnoy0107

i would take the 705 anyday because i have one and a impulse.i chose it because my cousin has a ntc3 with a .12 sirio engine into it and a lot of hopups and still smokin him on the track.and we're both equally matcthed on driving. on my 705 i have a .12 re novamega engine in it with no hopups at all except for gearing.the handling is just off the hook on this car if you set it up right at the track

Master-RCU

Most of the people would say that the NTC3 is better because most of them own it. I would personally go for the 705.. I just like the design of it better..

dbow

My Feedback: (1)

Make your decision on parts availability, cost and things of this nature. Once you have done your homework, then you will know which car is best for you.
The fastest car on the market wont make YOU a better driver, if there is a really good driver at your track or parking lot you will never catch him until you learn how to drive. Does not matter what engine you use or car.
Most good drivers can perform on the same level no matter what brand they are driving.


Good luck

Dbow

spazzyfry123

i have parts availibility for both

studysession

I have a NTC3 - with lots of hop ups. I love the car. Very nice and now that I put all the hop ups, it is very fast.

Go for the Serpent - You will be much happier.

Otalien

705 is hard to setup, it's a really good car but if you are not an expert...

NTC3 is easier to setup, and also is faster, and you don't need to be an expert to go fast.

I own an NTC3 with a sirio engine and y go faster than a lot so serpents in my local racetrack.

Here in Spain serpent is the brand with more cars on the competitions, so is the car that most people buy, but after observing them....the 705 is not really good, the centax 2 breaks (the axial bearing doesn't last), chassis isn't as rigid as it was on impulse pro...

The NTC3 also has some problems, for example diff boxes are really bad, you must fix them adding to big screws to hold the shock tower, and also you must change the input shaft for one in aluminum, but this problems are not as had to solve as the one with the centax of the 705.

nitrodude-RCU

Hey bud.......call Mark here in Ga. over at Primetime Hobby And Speedway...he has Serpent with a lot of brand new parts for sale.Also ask him what he thinks about the two..........he will tell you to get the tc-3 instead of the serpent....heres there number 706-625-9037...come race with us if you get the chance....tell him Mike McDaniel sent ya

austinclose

the sirio outlaw is an awesome engine i got 1 today and broke it in it it beat the mt12 in a drag really great engine about 1.5 hp that dont mean crap thuoght if u want the best though get the pixi outlaw all three all great engines thought

spazzyfry123

what would be best? getting the rear exaust engine or the side? I have a starter-box, but the rubber thing that turns the flywheel is set up for a car with the flywheel straight instead of sideways. i use this starter box to start my traxxas rustler. would this starter box work with the NTC3 kit?

spazzyfry123

and if the starter box does not work will this? http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXL396&P=7 with this? http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXL402&P=7

Wild Gopher

check out the new trinity reflex NT team only kit or the Mugen MTX-3. Where i race the Mugen rules all hands down

pnoy0107

my cousin has the same problem with the starter box but the best way to use it without buying a new one is just turn the car sideways to start it.thats how my cousin always does it and the one from tower hobbies it works but be careful because the car or the starter can kick back at you.because i have one and it launched my car a couple of feet because i wasn't holding the car tight enough!

spazzyfry123

does that work?

wat kind of starter box does he have? i have one by ofna

spazzyfry123

and i was thinking of that trinity, but thats just TOO MUCH $$$!

if i got that how much would that cost me all together? like $1000?

pnoy0107

he has the same one he got the ofna box, it will look a little wierd but yeah it really works!

spazzyfry123

thanks pnony, an which would be better the rear or the side? and what do the racers use the rear or the side? if its the rear im looking at the http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCNA3&P=0 cause ive heard that the orions are junk. i think whoever said that is in this thread actually.

spazzyfry123

another thing, what is the legal racing engine size? .12 or .15? or are both fine? and can someone give me a list of some of the legal engines?

pnoy0107

a legal racing engine is a .12 non turbo plug but it can be modified and they consider .15 as a big block so you can't use that on 200mm races but i would go for a rear exhaust.i have a .15 novamega in my serpent impulse that i recently broke in and i found out that you can't race it so i'm just using it for bashing now but this engine is way overpowered and i think they said the car should hit almost 90mph

pnoy0107

there is a lot of .12 legal engines out there it just depends on how much money you are willing to spend like the RB, Novamega, Novarossi, Mugen, Trinity, Picco, Sirio and there is a lot more

soapsuds43

usually on the engines info it will say ROAR legal or OUTLAW roar legal is race legal but alot of street racing clubs dont enforce the engine rule alot unless your in a organized and sancationed event wich not many clubs have check out the place youll be racing and ask about it before you buy just to b shure

RandoMere

My Feedback: (1)

Well, Since I own a Serpnet impulse pro, and my friend has a NTC3, i can say that right now my serpent kills it anytime... Well, maby because it has o.s. engine with only .8 hp... Maby with equal engines there will be competition, but imho serpent is alot better in turns... A drawback with ntc3 is also the fact that it's fuel tank is posisioned the way that when it get's empty the car get's out of balance. Tho the NTC3 is lighter and CG is lower than in serpent I still find that serpent is alot quicer in turns (don't ask).

If you want a serious racer than i'd go with serpent. If you want to drive any place other than track, where might be some small stones than I'd say go with ANY shaft driven car... I'm keen to test OFNA's LD3... Seems like a good car...

oh, and as for these problems with centax clutch like one guy above mentioned... Owning a centax cluch is'nt a problem... it's a priveledge...

Hope this nonsence has helped you decide

austinclose

rear exhaust is way better because they can put more ports in the engine or just ask some1 to explain 4 u but rear is definatly faster