FieroMan121

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well ive been a grumpy jerk the past few days and im going to roll with it and post this up for all you who call rpm arms on a slash a "project", this guys video is my exact same setiment when i see these flm pedes and dime a dozen slashes every week on the forums

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOLeI...layer_embedded

13BT

LOL great video, and I agree with the sentiment completely.

redfisher1974

Not going to argue with that, Good video.

tommygun32

BRB....gotta go clean myself up after ROFL'ing...

kaiser01

nice vid!

my thoughts exactly.

SyCo_VeNoM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
THATS MY MONSTER ENERGY SLASH! ITS UNIQUE!
my god I was laughing, but yea agree seen too many threads for "projects" like he described (hell he was probably looking at the electric forum when he came up with the rtr project jokes )

Argess

I really dont' know what to think. The snob in me tends to agree with the video as I've done so many "real projects", yet the whole thing smacks of the "true hobbiest" arguement thread. Interestingly it kind of kills the RTR vs Kit arguement as really, bolting together a kit isn't a project....or is it? Well, building a kit may not be much in the way of personal creativity, but I'd still consider it a project. Argh.....I guess us snobs will agree with the video, but I really think anything you do to your RC vehicles is still positive, whether it's personally creative or not.

kaiser01

thats not the point of the vid though, he's still giving props to people who modify rtr's, but they are not "projects".

redfisher1974

Why not?

Argess

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Exactly. No reason why by definition, a project has to be personally creative or difficult to implement.

One definition actually does say: "An undertaking requiring concerted effort", however one has to look at who is performing this effort. One wouldn't expect a 10 year old to machine his own working minature V8, although that's rather an extreme example.

Another definition states; "a large or major undertaking, esp. one involving considerable money, personnel, and equipment." Again, how does one define "considerable money"? Really, if you look at building a house as a project, then anything you do to your RC is not a project because considerable money is not spent compared to building a house.

Yet another definition says "something that is contemplated, devised, or planned; plan; scheme", which is how I see it. And under that definition, all RC efforts he mentioned, no matter how easy, are still projects.

redfisher1974

^ good points, Putting new A-arms on may be a great project for the slow kid down the street.

13BT

Because, he argues, it's not being creative. To be creative, you need to come up with your OWN idea, your OWN mod, your OWN wicked paint scheme.

Buying a bunch of aluminium bling and bolting it on isnt being creative. Anyone with some money can do that. And thats fine. You can do that. It does look cool. But its not a real "project"

Argess

Well....put it this way. I've machined a few steam engines from stock material, BUT, I made them from plans (drawings), so creativity wasn't there. I still consider them all projects.

The more I think about it, the more I don't like the video. Sadly, I agree with him a little bit, and I don't like what I see. Snobbery just isn't a class act.

redfisher1974

You can only re-invent the wheel so many times.

kaiser01

you're right the more i think about it the more i don't like it, but at the same time i agree.

redfisher1974

Not sure why, But it reminds me how I hate flyfishermen that look down at us live bait spin casters[&:] All high and mighty like.

suburban_hooligan

that video rules!

FieroMan121

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interesting comments for sure.

i follow his videos and read his posts regularly and really i think what hes saying is that, theres nothing wrong with buliding up a rusty with rpm parts but that to call it a full blown "project" isnt really right.

Argess

Yes, he has a bit of a point that way. By the way, who is the guy? I've never heard of him before.

Ttam Says Blarg

proj·ect
   /n. ˈprɒdʒɛkt, -ɪkt; v. prəˈdʒɛkt/ Show Spelled[n. proj-ekt, -ikt; v. pruh-jekt] Show IPA
–noun
1.
something that is contemplated, devised, or planned; plan; scheme.
2.
a large or major undertaking, esp. one involving considerable money, personnel, and equipment.
3.
a specific task of investigation, esp. in scholarship.
4.
Education . a supplementary, long-term educational assignment necessitating personal initiative, undertaken by an individual student or a group of students.
5.
Often, projects. housing project.

SyCo_VeNoM

He does some interesting projects like making a 1/5th scale brushless buggy out of a ruster (I think it was, or it was a slash forgot)
Think he was the guy who also made the backslash conversion, along with a 4x4 version. He also did a lot of other mods to RC's and posts somewhat detailed how to's for the most of them
http://www.ultimaterc.com/ if you want to see what he's made

Don't care what anyone says the monster energy slash project part made me laugh my ass off the most seeing there was someone that did that same exact "project" here awhile back
If I remember right that guy just took a pre-painted black body and slapped the 3 stickers on and called it done

Gex_61

Project?

Start with raw materials: body, paint, and stickers.

End result: Monster Energy paint scheme.

[sm=thumbs_up.gif] Five stars please.

jatoracing33

I agree with him, but to a point. Taking some A-arms and tires and putting them on isn't a project, that's an upgrade. Unless it's Integy. Then it's a downgrade. However, I think taking something that's fubar and rebuilding with with even just stock parts could be called a project, mainly because its not something that will be fixed within an hour or two. But something that you will have to get creative with, like in my case making a 4WD jato, that's a project.

Gex_61

Why is this not a project? What disqualifies it from being a project?

jatoracing33

Because it's a simple, mindless upgrade. It's more routine than anything else.