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Old 09-21-2011, 06:10 AM
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i have been looking hard at a few tamiya kits lately.

cold weather is coming, so having a couple of kits to build would be nice.

and a few of their scale models look simply awsome.

here is my problem, i can get a lightly used rustler VXL RTR with 2.4ghz radio ect for under $200.

but a NIB tamiya brat costs $170, doesnt come with radio gear....is not brushless....and to my knowledge doesnt even have ball bearings!

Now, obviously the tamiya brat looks WAY cooler than a rustler. But can looks justify the cost?

same story with the tamiya hummer. and again with the cc-01 models. I have built a cc-01, but only cause i found one NIB for $160. the normal price is over $230.
but agian, i had one. it looked great but there was no amazing performance.
if i pay over $200 for a RC, i would at least expect it to be RTR if its brushed!

i may buy a tamiya holiday buggy. there is one that is priced as it should be. $100 shipped for the kit on ebay.
Why cant the brat be more like $125?
and the cc-01 be more like $175?
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Old 09-21-2011, 06:47 AM
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Because it's Tamiya.
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Because it's Tamiya.
LOL, ok.

at 1st, i thought maybe it was cause they have to pay for rights to have the names: subaru, porsha ect.
but the TT-01E with farrari enzo body is only $110!
Even to DF-02 chassis, there are several versions....and the prices differer between them. yet, im pretty sure only the bodies are different.
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Tamiya does far more to try for scale appearance than Traxxas does. This takes time/effort/money. I think Tamiya is higher quality (personal opinion), and they include the best kit instructions I've seen. Traxxas doesn't do kits, so no instruction costs.

There are other factors I'm sure we don't know. How does Traxxas pay it's labor compared to Tamiya? Stuff like that.

In general though, it's easy to find an RTR by brand X and compare to a bare bones kit by company Y and wonder why the RTR is cheaper. It's not just Traxxas vs. Tamiya. For example, Losi has some excellent RTR deals that make you wonder about kit costs for tons of other companies.
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Tamiya does far more to try for scale appearance than Traxxas does. This takes time/effort/money. I think Tamiya is higher quality (personal opinion), and they include the best kit instructions I've seen. Traxxas doesn't do kits, so no instruction costs.

There are other factors I'm sure we don't know. How does Traxxas pay it's labor compared to Tamiya? Stuff like that.

In general though, it's easy to find an RTR by brand X and compare to a bare bones kit by company Y and wonder why the RTR is cheaper. It's not just Traxxas vs. Tamiya. For example, Losi has some excellent RTR deals that make you wonder about kit costs for tons of other companies.
some true statements there.

it just makes my head spin, the thought of spending nearly $200 for a kit that doesnt include everything.

its true they have the best instructions ever. and most their models are very sturdy.

its just a battle of the mind, wanting both performance and scale looks
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Old 09-21-2011, 07:47 AM
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True, true. Plus some of their "discontinued" or very desireable models (Hummer, CC01, etc) go up in price as they become less available, and demand goes up. So you get a "basic" kit prices a lot higher than other kits out there. It's wacky sometimes.
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True, true. Plus some of their ''discontinued'' or very desireable models (Hummer, CC01, etc) go up in price as they become less available, and demand goes up. So you get a ''basic'' kit prices a lot higher than other kits out there. It's wacky sometimes.
i get the price of discontinued models being high on ebay.
its the prices on some of the current, and re-release stuff that's got me confused.

most often, i buy my rc's used. but with tamiy's, the used ones are no less expensive than the NIB kit.

guess ill just have to pony up some cash.
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I would rather pay a little more just for the fact you get to put the kit together from all parts...nothing like the feeling when the kits done and you feel good when you see it there in front of you... alot better than when probably a 13 year old china boy in a factory builds the parts for a traxxas model!!
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Just look at it this way... Tamiya charges what they want because it will sell for that price....
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Another thing prices aren't that hight for most tamiya kits... holiday buggy with motor and esc $89.00 hornet , lunch box about $105.00 or so gast attack $159.00 and these kits all come with a ESC and motor.
Not to bad
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I would rather pay a little more just for the fact you get to put the kit together from all parts...nothing like the feeling when the kits done and you feel good when you see it there in front of you... alot better than when probably a 13 year old china boy in a factory builds the parts for a traxxas model!!
I double dog dare you to run that thing in gravel.
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I would rather pay a little more just for the fact you get to put the kit together from all parts...nothing like the feeling when the kits done and you feel good when you see it there in front of you... alot better than when probably a 13 year old china boy in a factory builds the parts for a traxxas model!!
I double dog dare you to run that thing in gravel.
Hi i run it in low grass with dirt patches and baseball fields.
the chrome pumpking i drive all over and beat on it it's one of my favorits to drive lots of FUN!
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Just teasing you - that looks immaculate! Nice build sir.
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Default RE: whats with tamiya's prices??

i bought a plasma edge DF-02 today.

already thinking of getting the alloy front stock tower and driveshaft.

There is no doubt that tamiya has some of the most awsome looking models ever!

the plasma edge was $120 shipped. thats a good price. i may get the holiday buggy in a couple of weeks.
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Cool!
Never heard of a plasma edge...have to do a search.
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i bought a plasma edge DF-02 today.

already thinking of getting the alloy front stock tower and driveshaft.

There is no doubt that tamiya has some of the most awsome looking models ever!

the plasma edge was $120 shipped. thats a good price. i may get the holiday buggy in a couple of weeks.
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the plasma edge is one of the buggies on the DF-02 chassis.
its a 4wd buggy, like the gravel hound
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Yea i searched and seen it.
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Tamiya is quite expensive when buying from US stores, check out rcmart.com its really cheap there, RCmart is also on ebay his name is Dinball


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shenlonco - what do you do to get the white lettering on the tires? Looks fantastic. Also, does it wear off with use?
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Default RE: whats with tamiya's prices??

perfect example here:

DF-02, a 4wd buggy with ESC and motor costs $120
the subaru brat(re-release) a 2wd, with esc and motor costs $200

So, that subby body costs $80???
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supply and demand I suppose. Lots of nostalgic folk buying Brats
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perfect example here:

DF-02, a 4wd buggy with ESC and motor costs $120
the subaru brat(re-release) a 2wd, with esc and motor costs $200

So, that subby body costs $80???
Actually yes go on e-bay to buy a hard body and everything needed to make it compleate they are like $60.00 and yes the dmand is also what makes pricing high because it was a popular model.
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shenlonco - what do you do to get the white lettering on the tires? Looks fantastic. Also, does it wear off with use?
Hi thanks I purchased a paint pen they sell on e-bay for tires... Guy's use tamiya lexan white paint in the jar with a very small philips head screw driver also on lettering.
I will post the 2 links here so you can see them.

O it holds up pretty good enless you nail a rock and scrape the side wall.

what i purchased and used
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260844150425...84.m1439.l2649

But this guy swears this works best
http://tamiya101.com/article_painting_tyres.asp
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OK, i can stop complaining now.

i just got a used re-release tamiya subaru brat for $110 on ebay.
thats with 2 bodies, full ball bearings, and nice hitech metal gear servo, motor, original box, extra wheels and also rear paddle tires.

and the ad said modded front end with some midnight pumkin parts, guess the steering arm and hubs.

Not bad, considering the Kit is over $200
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