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Old 09-18-2009, 01:29 AM
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If anyone actually wants to stage a Mustang vs. Corsair (or Corsair vs. Corsair) air battle, check this out for some authentic color schemes:

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_156.shtml

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Old 11-29-2009, 09:09 PM
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   The Pics look good,  I have the P51 Mustang and the Spitfire each have an OS 25LA turning 9x4 props. They are fast.
Wish I had started back sooner, when the 25FX was out. I did pick one up last month still in the box can't wait to put it in something.


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Old 12-05-2009, 10:53 AM
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My Corsair and its specs are already in this forum but after 400+ flights, I decided to recover the plane. I used MonoCote with almost but not quite matching LusterCote on the cowl and canopy frame, then sprayed the whole plane with flat clear LusterCote which gave it a nice dull finish so it didn't look like a "plastic" plane. Used auto brake cleaner to remove oil soaked into the wood. The yellow tail was the way it originally was after cutting in a rudder. It's been such a great flyer and all my buds say what a terrific plane it is, I decided to spruce it up. I really don't like "building" anymore but this really came out nice.

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Old 12-16-2009, 12:40 AM
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O.K., I'm a little late to this thread and plane, but I just recently bought one off a friend for $25. (minus all the guts)

Here's what I have if I go glow:
An O.S. Max .25 engine
Servos, Rx, etc.

If I go electric this is what I have: (not sure if this will work or not)
Electrifly Rimfire .10 motor (35-30-1250kv)
Servos, Rx
My lipos range from 1300map 15C to 2250map 30C

I'm thinking the Rimfire motor with a 2250map 30C would do the trick. Any opinions or suggestions are most welcome!!

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Old 12-16-2009, 08:04 AM
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An O.S. Max .25 engine sounds like the ticket
Old 12-16-2009, 08:36 AM
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Saw an electric conversion in M.A.N. article about an eletric meet but I don't think many details were published. Horizon has a nice guide at their website for matching motors, ESC's and batteries to plane size and a few on this board have made them electric so you sould be able to find what you need with a little reading. It's such a good, light airframe, you should be able to make a fine flyer out of it.

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Old 12-16-2009, 10:14 AM
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Mine has a OS .32SX with a Neslon pipe... its a SCREAMER!!!!!! OH... you'll see it in this section...

[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8993490/tm.htm]P-40 vs. P-51[/link]

My Mustang is highly modified (won't do that again) and it SCREAMS at over 150mph....
Old 12-17-2009, 01:25 AM
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I found out the Rimfire 1250 is perfect for this plane, using a 40amp ESC and running off a Thunder Power 2250map 30C lipo. That's the route I'm planning to go, and use a Master Airscrew 10x8 prop.
Old 12-20-2009, 11:25 PM
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There's already a marked thrustline for the glow engine on this thing, is that what I use to line up the electric motor too? Forgive me as I'm new to this thrustline adjustment stuff. I just fly.

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Old 12-21-2009, 07:59 AM
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Yeah, a thrust line is a thrust line regardless of the power source. You'll note right and down thrust are already built into the firewall alignment. That is good! Just mount your motor square to the firewall and centered as they have marked.

Since you are new, balance is very important and they tell you where the CG should be. Balance low wing planes inverted and with the battery you plan to use. A nose heavy plane is flyable but a tail-heavy plane is a crash waiting to happen, especially with a short-time pilot.

This is a great airframe. Properly balanced it is a forgiving sport flyer with no tendency to tip stall. It goes where you point it and can even handle wind. Mine is about 5 years old with at least 450 flights, 1 dead stick (just keep your nose down and maintain flying speed) and no crashes. Flown scale, I get standing "O's" when I fly mine, One of the very best and enjoyable planes I've had in over 35 years of RC flying.
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:46 AM
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Thanks ARF!!
Actually I'm not new to flying them, just doing the thrustline stuff. Can't wait to get this thing in the air!
Old 12-22-2009, 08:01 AM
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You should have no problems.

Enjoy!
Old 04-05-2010, 10:29 AM
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Default RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang

Hi, stick a os 25 fx in it!
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Old 08-06-2010, 07:26 PM
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Has anybody used an OS 25ax on the Corsair? I'm mounting it this evening and can't believe how high the fuel tank is above the carb. I believe it's going to be a problem...
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You just have to start the plane with the nose high about 15-20 degrees should work. Other wise it tends to flood a bit. Once it gets going you should be fine.
Old 02-03-2011, 03:00 PM
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Hi all. I am really late to this discussion, but I am thinking about getting one of these and doing some crazy mods to it. I want to put in a set of electric retracts, which will add about 2.5oz and i want to add the rudder. I have seen plenty of posts and places were people have done this. I was also thinking about bolting on an Enya 53 fs that I have laying around. It is that or sell the Enya and buy an electric outrunner. I have seen that has also been done a lot on these. I used to fly all glow power about 15 yrs back, and got out of the hobby because of time and money. I am now at a point were I can do it again, and I have started with a Pitts park flier and a ParkZone Extra 300. I love the Extra. Now I want some thing that has a film covering instead of a foamy, and I have always loved the Corsair. In fact I have a TopFlight 60 size kit that I never built. I have the Enya 53 fs from when I used to fly. Is this going to make this thing so nose heavy that I have to put a pound of lead in the back, or am I going to be able to make this happen. I am not scared of some thing that has to land with a little speed, as long as it is not to out of control. I would love any thoughts, or suggestions from any one that has done anything like this. Thanks.
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Default RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang

Wow, this must be one of the longest running threads on here - almost 6 years to the day since it was started.
As for your mods, well, I say go for it. Just about everything else has been done to this fantastic little plane. I'd recommend the four stroke over the brushless, but thats just my biased opinion.
It seems that some need nose weight, some don't. Mine needed a couple of ounces on the firewall with a .25.
I wouldn't bother with the retracts, but each to their own. The plane already has a fairly high wing loading, but its fine as long as you fly it fast enough
Good luck and let us know how you go.
Old 02-04-2011, 06:48 AM
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I have not made up mind yet, but I think I am going to go with the brushless. This is because I am not flying at a club. I simply fly in a verry large open field. It has verry smooth grass so I think the retracts I am looking at will be ok, They weight 2.5 oz and say they can handle up to a 7lb airplane, but are pretty small and are electric so they should be pretty easy to install. I am a little gun shy of flying with a glow engine not at an ama sanctioned field. Also though I think the sound of the fs would be great, I like not having to carry any extra gear to go flying. No fuel, no clean up materials, no starter, well you get the idea. But as I said I have not made up my mind. Any one out there flying with a brushless conversion and if so how did it go. Any pit falls I should look for? Thanks and this is a great thread.
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Brushless. Thats a pity. But if its what you want to do then give it a try. This plane was designed for a glow motor, with the option of being converted to electric, unlike most planes nowadays, that are designed for electric, and can sometimes, with a bit of effort, be converted to glow.
A four stroke is a very quiet engine. Although it may sound loud on the ground, in the air they are very quiet, almost the same as a high performance brushless, just a different tone. As for the retracts, if your landing on grass, then they are not needed. This plane is designed to belly-land.
As for the extra gear, yes I can understand that, but it can all be contained in a field box. The guys at my club that fly electric bring a box with almost as much stuff as the glow fliers. You will still need a bunch of expensive LiPos, and/or a charger, a 12V battery to charge them off, leads etc. Unless you are happy to do a 5-10 minute flight then go home, then by all means, go brushless.
I don't want to get into the electric vs glow discussion - that has been done to death on countless other threads.
But in the end, its up to you.
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I am planning on talking to the owner of my local hobby shop today, before I make the final decision on the power system. I do thank you for your advise, and I will post what I do and how it turns out.
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I went to the local hobby shop and the owner said go glow. So that is what I am going to do. Does any one have any suggestions on a retract that will work in this bird. Here is the link to what I was thinking
http://www.sonicelectric.com/Merchan...roduct_Count=6

I know these seem a little large, but with my bumping up to a larger engine I thought they might be a good choice, and they seem reasonably priced.

I also like the idea of not having to add a servo and all the linkages that go along with that. I have also seen some posts on rcuniverse from a guy that makes retracts for park flyers and thought that might be a way to go, but I was not sure if they would support this plane. Also I have not read through this entire blog yet, but does anyone have any detailed info on how to add a rudder and or any other mods I should be prepared to make. I was also curiouse what servos I should use. any thoughts or links would be helpfull. Thanks
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Here it is. I tried to upload pics. Lets see if it worked.
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I do not know if anyone is still interested in this airplane, but I thought I would share what I did to mine. I started off planning on using any Enya 53 4c, but it turned out that it was not going to be a good fit, because of the placement of the carb and the mounting bolts. The mounting bolts were going to need to be right where the cut out for the fuel tank is in the fire wall. I also have been flying all electric since I got back in the hobby a while back. I flew glow years ago, and still have some of the engines, including the Enya 53, but no field equipment, so I decided that it would be more cost effective for me to convert it to electric even though I already had the Enya. The first pic in the previous post is Just a shot of the airplane. The second pick is showing the motor I used. I went with the E-Flite Power 15. This is what the owner of my LHS recommended, and it turned out to be a great choice. I paired it to an E-Flite 40AMP pro ESC and a Parkzone 2200mah battery. I am running an E-Flite 11X8 prop. It has pretty good vertical and plenty of speed for me. It is not a rocket, but has what seems like pretty scale like flying characteristics. I may go up in battery size because I had to add a heavy spinner nut to get a good cg and I would like a little more flight time. I am getting about 7min. I am at full throttle most of the time though, since I am doing mostly high speed passes and the like not aerobatics. I try to fly it at this point in a scale manner, because I like the way it looks. The only thing that is keeping me from going with a larger battery is that the one I am using fits perfectly. Pic 3 shows the rudder mod that I made. I simply cut the vertical fin, added hinges and painted where I sanded it down to make it able to pivot. I used the tube for the antenna for the pushrod. It is in about as good of a place as you could ask for, and there is already a cut out in the servo tray for the servo. You could not ask for a much easier mod. I do not know why they did not do this from the factory. Pic 4 shows where I made a hatch so that I could access the battery and the other electronics. I wanted to be able to get to the battery without removing the wing. You can see in this pic that the battery slides perfectly in where the fuel tank cut out is. It is a perfect fit. Pic 5 shows the hatch cover. I used dowel rods and a hatch latch to make this. I trimmed both of them in white peel and stick covering from Monokote, I think. It is not exactly scale, but it is pretty close to what you see on the full scale aircraft. Pic 6 though 8 show the landing gear. This was by far the hardest mod that I made. I used the RC Lander 90% rotating retracts that I purchased through Sonic Electronics. They have the shortest Oleo struts that they had available. I chose this set up because they say they are suitable for up to a 7lb plane, and I am flying off of grass. I wanted something that would be able to handle that. So far they have. I made the cut out for the landing gear unit itself first, and managed to glue in hardwood mounting rails that go from the leading edge to the main spar. I used epoxy to glue them in. I then made the cut outs for the struts and the wheels when they retracted. I had to take out more structural support than I would have liked, but that is the nature of the beast with the 90% rotating gear. I also would like to have been able to move them a little farther forward nut I could not because the wing was not thick enough. It would be great if these gear had a little more travel when they retracted because to get them to retract into the wing I was not able to angle them as far forward as I would like, so the plane does have a tendencies to nose over when taxiing. I have not had this issue on the actual landing, and I do a short take off roll to keep it from happening on take off. All of that having been said, I am happy with the set up so far. I have about 10 flights on the plane all on and off of grass, and I have not ripped the gear out yet. Pic 9 is of the tail gear that I added. I did this after the rudder was on. I simply used a long piece of wire to drill down from the rudder through the fuse. I then mounted the tail wheel bracket and bent the wire to the desired shape. At the rudder I bent the wire to run along the bottom of the rudder and used a little tape to secure it to the bottom. I would do this differently if I were doing it again. I would do the tail wheel after I mounted the fin, but before I attached the rudder. This would make it a lot easier. The last pic is of the airplane sitting on my driveway. I hope that someone enjoys looking at these pics and maybe gets an idea or two, or maybe just fondly remembers there combat corsair. If anyone has any questions please let me know and I would be glad to try to answer them. By the way the airplane with battery weighs just over three pounds and flies great.

Old 03-20-2011, 08:54 AM
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Default RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang

highly impressive.
too bad the world is not astroturf, that would fix your nose-over problems. But with planes this light, nosing over on grass is very hard to avoid, I have realized. I usually make them as tail-heavy as practical, and move the gear as forward as possible. Of course the rotators limit this.
Is there any way you can switch the gears over so that the wheels face out?
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Default RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang

I probably could switch the gear and I guess that would push them a little further out, but I am not sure how much help that would be with nosing over. Do you think it would make much of a difference? It is a great little plane and I am running pretty tail heavy according to the instructions. I am actually about a half inch outside of there acceptable range, but it flies great so i am not really worried about that. Thanks for the input.

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