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Old 05-17-2008, 06:47 PM
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Default Possible To Drift With A Nitro Buggy?

Hey guys, about to pickup my first Nitro RC. I wanted a buggy because it will be more versatile; but, I've been drifting my Mini-Z MA010 1/24 Scale and saw some Nitro Drifting and think I'd sooner or later want to experiment with that after I do some dirt mashing.

So basically, my question is would a buggy with PVC/ABS tires, 4WD and stiffer suspension be able to drift?

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Never tried it yet, but i am sure it should work try , make the rear stiffer then the front.
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Old 05-18-2008, 04:03 AM
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Should work no probs as its got 4wd and PVC
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Old 05-18-2008, 05:15 AM
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Are there front/rear differentials on buggies? If so, probably the same locking as the on-road cars? Also what suspension stiffness front/rear would be best? Thanks, glad to hear I can get the best of both worlds.
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Old 05-18-2008, 12:41 PM
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Don't use ABS or PVC, you will ruin your engine. Also, cut more air-cooling holes out of the body, there's much less air coming through. I recommend using actual nitro-drift tyres for nitro-drifting, the stuff we use on electrics will just ruin a nitro engine in no time.
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Old 05-18-2008, 01:22 PM
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I know alot of guys who use ABS/PVC on there nitros and never had a problem with there engines lol also check the show ur drifter thread and lots in there use ABS on there nitros.
They have almost zero traction so the engine is mostly unloaded as long as you tune your engine right and carry out regular temp stops you will be fine SD
On the diff question its up to you some lock them some dont but as your using a nitro you will have more than enough power to slide,if it starts to spin out alot then look into locking them,i locked mine at first then went back to open diffs as i found it easier to learn with locked diffs.
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Old 05-18-2008, 01:32 PM
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I had an old set of slicks from a 1/10 TLO1 that I bolted onto my nitro forza buggy. Looked silly because they are so small, but it was a blast. Wound up ripping the tires off the wheels of course, I just went to an open smooth parking lot (my old HS) and had some fun. Then bolted the stockers and hit the baseball field with it. very fun day
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Thanks for all the input guys, cant wait to get my buggy.
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Yeah It will deffinately work out but be sure as said before to avoid over heating, I tuned my buggy well and installed a mini lightweight computer fan to cool off my engine as well.
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Old 05-19-2008, 12:28 AM
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Just as a general question about overheating, applying to normal mashing as well. How can you tell when to let the car cool off? Go by # of tanks? Or do I need a temp gauge? Thanks
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Old 05-19-2008, 03:43 AM
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If you dont wanna grab a temp gauge then just let it cool off for ten mins after each tank you run,we do the same with elecy after a full battery to let the motor cool off before running another pack like said drifting doesnt use much traction so the temps on the motor are usually high after a good run,so give yourself 5-10mins between each run i use that time to set up the drift course anyway so it saves sitting around waiting
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Less traction = higher motor temperatures? You'd think it'd be the other way around? Or are the wheels doing more spinning then they would with more traction?
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^ exactly m8 a hell of a lot of spinning on PVC/ABS so the rpms will be very high but once you get the bite piont nailed you will be drifting at half speed it just takes a while to pick it up,throttle control is a must for drifting but everyone goes balls out on there first few runs lol
Once you find the bite piont on PVC its a lot easier i can full power my rc on pvc and it will like aquaplane forward lmao but if you use half throttle you will build up speed that way

This vid was my first run on PVC

[link=http://media.putfile.com/DRIFTER-68]http://media.putfile.com/DRIFTER-68[/link]


after a few packs they stick alot better that was running a 21turn motor putting out about 16.000rpm so im guessing your nitro has to be putting at least 35-45.000rpm [X(] so have fun hehe
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:29 PM
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Video link isn't working. I've read PVC wont work for Nitro becuase of the power/weight
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For you nitro guys try the yokomo HG drift tires, the ones made out of hard rubber, that thing grips too much for my electric car.
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Has anyone been able to find a more wallet friendly drift tire for nitro drifting? The Yokomo are about 20$ a set
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homemade drift tires
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Isn't ABS/PVC too slippery for nitro ?
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No m8 plenty of nitro folk drift with PVC not sure where you read it was bad for nitro lol etc check out the show ur drifter thread on here 99% of the nitros run PVC wheels you can opt for rubber drift wheels if your pockets are loaded but i wouldnt advise it unless your rich lol your will only get a few runs before they need changing with PVC they will last for ages ie months.
I cant see how it will damage your nitro myself as long as you tune your motor regularly you shouldnt have a problem,pop along to your local hardware store and check out the lengths of pvc/abs pipe,measure your rin diameter and go from there you can glue it straight over the rims.
If your still not convinced the easiest way to start drifting is to grab some elecy tape wrap your tyres and use that it will wear through alot quicker than pvc but it will give you an ideal if you like drifting or not.
But like i said ive never heard of anyone having probs with nitro + pvc unless there not running 4wd
I would also lower your ride if your gonna use a buggy as a lower COG will help out alot.

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I cant remember where i read it exactly; but, I do remember reading that nitro just spins in circles with PVC since its not enough grip for the power/weight ratio. But, if you say it does, that's even better

I will definitely go PVC if that's the case then. How would I go about lowering my buggy? Different shocks/springs? I know stiffer springs can be had but can the entire strut be changed out?
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Yeah It will deffinately work out but be sure as said before to avoid over heating, I tuned my buggy well and installed a mini lightweight computer fan to cool off my engine as well.
I was wondering how you set that up?
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