best bang for you buck brushed motor on the market.
09-04-2011, 12:43 PM
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RE: best bang for you buck brushed motor on the market.
ok ok guys!!! clearly brushed is off limits. they dont even sell them on tower hobbies any more. two years ago i was able to get any kind of brushed motor in the market, and tower hobbies has caught on to the out dated stuff. im looking at three systems. this is what im looking at
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXBLCA&P=0
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXXWM5&P=0
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXVUT9&P=0
i like the vxl because its water proof and thats big for me.
what do you guys think. and i also am considering maybe 2s or 3s lipo. any suggestions?
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXBLCA&P=0
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXXWM5&P=0
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXVUT9&P=0
i like the vxl because its water proof and thats big for me.
what do you guys think. and i also am considering maybe 2s or 3s lipo. any suggestions?
09-04-2011, 04:55 PM
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RE: best bang for you buck brushed motor on the market.
TBH, the VXL is water resistant at best. The only truly waterproof ESCs are the epoxy dipped Mtroniks stuff and most boat ESCs (which are in the same boat, pun intended, as the Mtroniks being epoxy dipped).
The Venom system will be junk for anything off road and 1/10 scale, the Sidewinder ESC sucks until further notice...
Consider the following for a good, budget ESC/motor combo. It's sensored, great throttle feel, the Havoc ESCs run great in 2wd 1/10 RCs and some lighter 1/10 4wds, it'll be fast, and you can change endbell timing.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXZMU0&P=ML
The Venom system will be junk for anything off road and 1/10 scale, the Sidewinder ESC sucks until further notice...
Consider the following for a good, budget ESC/motor combo. It's sensored, great throttle feel, the Havoc ESCs run great in 2wd 1/10 RCs and some lighter 1/10 4wds, it'll be fast, and you can change endbell timing.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXZMU0&P=ML
09-04-2011, 08:44 PM
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RE: best bang for you buck brushed motor on the market.
that deff looks like a good combo. are there any wayer resistant esc motor combos on the market besides the vxl?
09-05-2011, 06:53 AM
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hmm that sounds like a fun project.
but wontr epoxying an esc wont allow it to vent and cool properly
but wontr epoxying an esc wont allow it to vent and cool properly
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RE: best bang for you buck brushed motor on the market.
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TBH, the VXL is water resistant at best. The only truly waterproof ESCs are the epoxy dipped Mtroniks stuff and most boat ESCs (which are in the same boat, pun intended, as the Mtroniks being epoxy dipped).
TBH, the VXL is water resistant at best. The only truly waterproof ESCs are the epoxy dipped Mtroniks stuff and most boat ESCs (which are in the same boat, pun intended, as the Mtroniks being epoxy dipped).
09-05-2011, 03:06 PM
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RE: best bang for you buck brushed motor on the market.
no i havent. i saw this one from another thread. is it any good http://www.nitrorcx.com/26p-blcombo-60a-12r-3300kv.html
09-05-2011, 05:27 PM
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1/10 scale maybe. 54 amps constant aint that much. the motor looks like a decent piece though. maybe if they had a lower kv, like a 2600 motor then that esc would be ok, but i think you'd need like 80A constant at least with that motor.
09-05-2011, 07:09 PM
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RE: best bang for you buck brushed motor on the market.
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have you ever pulled the bottom off a VXL? its potted just like the other stuff.
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TBH, the VXL is water resistant at best. The only truly waterproof ESCs are the epoxy dipped Mtroniks stuff and most boat ESCs (which are in the same boat, pun intended, as the Mtroniks being epoxy dipped).
TBH, the VXL is water resistant at best. The only truly waterproof ESCs are the epoxy dipped Mtroniks stuff and most boat ESCs (which are in the same boat, pun intended, as the Mtroniks being epoxy dipped).
It's just a gasket around the case and heat sink that makes it "waterproof". Gaskets are known to fail. Ask any Jeep 4.0L
09-05-2011, 07:49 PM
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i saw this one from another thread. is it any good http://www.nitrorcx.com/26p-blcombo-60a-12r-3300kv.html
Ask any Jeep 4.0L
09-07-2011, 05:47 AM
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RE: best bang for you buck brushed motor on the market.
are u saying ur jeep went 197000miles without a gasket failing??????? I find that impossible, no aumotive motor cad do that ampunt of miles with out a gasket failing,
gasket failing, A gasket that is not doing the task it was designed for.
Are u saying u car had no oil leaks from any of the gaskets???? $10 says the diff hats was seaping
gasket failing, A gasket that is not doing the task it was designed for.
Are u saying u car had no oil leaks from any of the gaskets???? $10 says the diff hats was seaping
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RE: best bang for you buck brushed motor on the market.
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It's just a gasket around the case and heat sink that makes it ''waterproof''.
It's just a gasket around the case and heat sink that makes it ''waterproof''.
thats potted. and this one has been in the clinton river on more than one occasion.
next time you feel the need to comment on VXL's, dont.
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RE: best bang for you buck brushed motor on the market.
Why don't you show us the TOP of the board, then
After that, if VXL speedos are truly waterproof, why don't you explain to us why hobby shops and forums are awash every winter with "Y MY TRUCK DOESNT WURK" after running in snow?
After that, if VXL speedos are truly waterproof, why don't you explain to us why hobby shops and forums are awash every winter with "Y MY TRUCK DOESNT WURK" after running in snow?
09-07-2011, 10:59 AM
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Why don't you show us the TOP of the board, then
After that, if VXL speedos are truly waterproof, why don't you explain to us why hobby shops and forums are awash every winter with ''Y MY TRUCK DOESNT WURK'' after running in snow?
Why don't you show us the TOP of the board, then
After that, if VXL speedos are truly waterproof, why don't you explain to us why hobby shops and forums are awash every winter with ''Y MY TRUCK DOESNT WURK'' after running in snow?
how can i show the top of the board if the plastic case covers it and its sealed in epoxy? i could pry the heat sink off but i think ive proved my point.
and im sure hobby shops and forums are awash with those questions for the same reason there are sixty new threads a day about "my brushless is running hot".....
maybe before you spew garbage about something, have a clue. OK?
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this thread is for the bashers who have a cheap budget. i havent upgraded to brushless and dont plan to until i have more money. im looking for a great motor for my pede. what in your opinion is the best and cheapest brushed motor? there are no limits on the turn of the motor and the manufacturer. usually i have stock motors in my truck but im tired of the slow 20mph speeds. i want my truck to haul some ass =p. the only other motor ive had was the venom fireball. and we all know that its a hit and a miss. so what are some other good options
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Update here
Brushed motors are still fast, if you can find a Novak ESC that can run 8-12turn motor limits i think the Novak GTS runs up to a 12turn motor.
Along with the novak esc buy used on ebay that and a Orion v2 Brushed motor there fast for a brushed motor I have my old rustler runing that setup and we droped a 2s in and did two speed runs and almost clocked 50mph.
I just went brushless with a new RTR truck and I'll never go back.
Brushless is just better all around, cheaper in the long run. They spin 3x the Rpms of a Brushed motor and you can gear some motors to the moon.
Deff checkout Hobbyking.com I've seen a buddys hobby wing esc and motor yeah there nothing speical but their cheap and faster and less maitence then any brushes setup.
- I have a Castle 1415, 2400kv Motor NINB with New Castle fan, asking $100.00
Along with the novak esc buy used on ebay that and a Orion v2 Brushed motor there fast for a brushed motor I have my old rustler runing that setup and we droped a 2s in and did two speed runs and almost clocked 50mph.
I just went brushless with a new RTR truck and I'll never go back.
Brushless is just better all around, cheaper in the long run. They spin 3x the Rpms of a Brushed motor and you can gear some motors to the moon.
Deff checkout Hobbyking.com I've seen a buddys hobby wing esc and motor yeah there nothing speical but their cheap and faster and less maitence then any brushes setup.
- I have a Castle 1415, 2400kv Motor NINB with New Castle fan, asking $100.00
Like how a Reedy 17.5 stock on 2s spins at 19k RPM and Reedy Radon spools up to 26k on 6 cell Nimh .
I have an old SG2 Jade that cranks around 27k on the same pack. To triple that you need to be running over 5000kv at 3s which would be silly in a truck or buggy....even at 2s that is overkill.
03-18-2016, 04:05 AM
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Brushed and Brushless "Turns" are not the same. The 17T Radon brushed motor and a 17.T brushless motor are two comepletly different animals when it comes to turns. Kv, is a measurement of performance output. Turns, is a physical attribute . A brushed motor's rotating armature has the wires are wrapped around it. A brushless motors wires are attached to the "can" and do not rotate.
A little estimation chart for comparison may help:
A little estimation chart for comparison may help:
03-18-2016, 04:18 AM
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03-18-2016, 04:29 AM
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03-18-2016, 04:58 AM
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Once I switched to brushless motors, there was no going back. Now, if I ever get the itch to get a "crawler" platform, I might consider a brushed motor for the fact of controlling low speed low end power that many crawler dudes still swear by.
Just saying
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