The Evader Coalition ~ T.E.C. Part 2.
#2327
Diff Fluid...Really?
I should have tried diff fluid years ago. When I first got the Brushless Evader diff it was lightly greased out of the package. I never thought that much of it, but I always see in the manual to ...fill diff with 20,000 oil or higher.
Well, after running a couple of packs through the Evader, I can definitely see more of a straight line takeoff using diff fluid (30k). I didn't want to waste time messing with different thicknesses and went with a little thicker than what's suggested in the manual. I'm happy with the 30k for now in the ST, until the need comes up to buy thicker stuff for another model.
I'm done with putting grease in my diffs. After using silicone diff fluid, when rebuilding the tranny, it is so much easier to clean and get out of the diff. Why didn't somebody tell me this before? The thickest grease I thought I had isn't as thick as what's inside the diff now.
Oh, and the original diff gaskets/seals must have been doin' their job (for the most part), 'cause when I opened the diff up again, I found it to be 3/4 full like when I filled it.
Yeah, that's looks to be the case, but there is not enough "leakage" (at the moment) to make a mess of things after a run, or tearing apart the gearbox. I will have to finish this year with the testing of the diff fluid to see how everything holds up.
Well, after running a couple of packs through the Evader, I can definitely see more of a straight line takeoff using diff fluid (30k). I didn't want to waste time messing with different thicknesses and went with a little thicker than what's suggested in the manual. I'm happy with the 30k for now in the ST, until the need comes up to buy thicker stuff for another model.
I'm done with putting grease in my diffs. After using silicone diff fluid, when rebuilding the tranny, it is so much easier to clean and get out of the diff. Why didn't somebody tell me this before? The thickest grease I thought I had isn't as thick as what's inside the diff now.
Oh, and the original diff gaskets/seals must have been doin' their job (for the most part), 'cause when I opened the diff up again, I found it to be 3/4 full like when I filled it.
Yeah, that's looks to be the case, but there is not enough "leakage" (at the moment) to make a mess of things after a run, or tearing apart the gearbox. I will have to finish this year with the testing of the diff fluid to see how everything holds up.
#2331
30K weight diff oil is a lot like molasses or Karo syrup. I got some 300,000 diff stuff coming in the mail for my other RC.
I'm getting ready to tear down and inspect the tranny. I'm over my monthly scheduled maintenance...it's over two months now since I last opened the gearbox and diff.
I was searching some of the Duratrax auctions on ebay, and a custom built "Duratrax Evader EXT BRUSHLESS capable transmission w POSI TRACTION rear end" popped up on the screen. Me being the Curious George that I am, had to dig deeper. I as looking at the pictures, and reading the description. It took me a while to get the gist of what the dude was doing. I never seen this soldering done to the diff before.
I'm getting ready to tear down and inspect the tranny. I'm over my monthly scheduled maintenance...it's over two months now since I last opened the gearbox and diff.
I was searching some of the Duratrax auctions on ebay, and a custom built "Duratrax Evader EXT BRUSHLESS capable transmission w POSI TRACTION rear end" popped up on the screen. Me being the Curious George that I am, had to dig deeper. I as looking at the pictures, and reading the description. It took me a while to get the gist of what the dude was doing. I never seen this soldering done to the diff before.
Last edited by RustyUs; 08-24-2015 at 12:02 PM.
#2332
Dang. That's a neat idea. I would probably weld it though. I guess if you're running dirt full time or doing 2WD rock racing , this could really work out. Just ran my Evader today with a Dynamite GPS Speed Meter. I got 37mph, which is pretty good considering I was running on a loosely packed, freshly graded (less than an hour ago) dirt road. I'm hoping to get a shot at some pavement within the next week to really see what she's hitting. Then maybe I'll try a 3S.
Nice shots btw!
Nice shots btw!
#2333
I like the old idea of using music wire instead.
It's just the fact that the Evader "diff output soldering thing" never appeared in any forums... was just weird and made me have to take a double look of the pictures.
Last edited by RustyUs; 08-24-2015 at 12:30 PM.
#2336
You will be able to use the old style pin drive Team Associated B4 rear rims on the rear axles. The ones I linked are the white dish rims, but there are other companies that make rims for the B4/B4.1 also.
Losi rear rims for the XX & XXX platforms will fit on the rear axle of the Duratrax BX as well. Duratrax, Associated, and Losi all used 3/16" axles back in that BX/B4/XXX time frame. The only thing I can't tell you is the off set of each rim.
And Losi XX/XXX front rims use a weird 9.5mm hex.
Losi rear rims for the XX & XXX platforms will fit on the rear axle of the Duratrax BX as well. Duratrax, Associated, and Losi all used 3/16" axles back in that BX/B4/XXX time frame. The only thing I can't tell you is the off set of each rim.
And Losi XX/XXX front rims use a weird 9.5mm hex.
Last edited by RustyUs; 09-06-2015 at 12:31 PM.
#2337
The front Team Associated B4 rims that use 3/16" x 3/8" bearings will fit the front BX axles. I think the rims that were supplied with the Associated kits, were made by Pro-Line. I'm not sure about Losi rims, I don't have any in front of me to check out. I know the XX & XXX buggy front rims will not work on the front of a BX axle. As I mentioned before, Losi used a hex design front stub axle back in the day that was 9.53mm wide.
As long as a rim uses a 3/16" x 3/8" bearing on both sides of the rim, you should be good to go at finding something to fit on the front of your BX..
As long as a rim uses a 3/16" x 3/8" bearing on both sides of the rim, you should be good to go at finding something to fit on the front of your BX..
Last edited by RustyUs; 09-06-2015 at 12:34 PM.
#2340
The problem comes on the front end of you buggy. It's gonna involve some other buggy's front hub carriers/caster blocks; steering blocks/knuckles; axles, and some modification to fit. The only front hex conversion that I ever saw, was on an Evader ST/EXT using Traxxas Rustler, Stampede & Bandit components.
I've contemplated the same thing (hexes) for my Evader ST. For the rear clamping hexes I used the aluminum ones that came on my Associated SC10.2 FT. I've test fitted front caster blocks and steering blocks from SC10/T4.1 trucks to be used with my stock Evader arms. Not a problem until you see the total added width they give you. I then gave up the thought of using hexes for the time being, and stuck with what I know works.
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Custom Duratrax Evader ext!! Must see!!!
This is my duratrax evader. It has soo many upgrades and custom work that I don't know where to start!! It has 78 LEDs in total, 2 3s lipo's, 5 fans for cooling(I know it's overkill but they work great!) an Turnigy Trackstar 150a 1/8 scale sensored esc, Turnigy 540 Trackstar 4850kv 4pole brushless motor, an dimension engineering 6v 3amp sport bec, pro line powerstroke shocks, 4 channel flysky rec, rc lights full function led controller, and many more custom parts!! Next install will be an six speaker sound system. Got any questions I'll be happy to reply to. Oh one oh the best features is the ground spark system I created to shoot sparks out from the rear end with a button press on the controller. With all the extra weight on board I'm still able to pop wheelies and hit 45+mph easily with an 25 tooth pinon gear. Spur gear is 86t steel and aluminum.
!!!!!!!!!UPDATE!!!!!!!!
OK for anybody who cares i have completed my tricked out custom Duratraxx Evader. Its been a long time in the works with life and other things you have to take on a daily basis but i think im dome now. The 8 speaker 70 watt remote mp3 sound system was truly fun and rewarding to install!! This car is truly a show stopper now!! One look and listen at this car in action is something all RC car fans should see. I've only pushed it to 42 mph and its still more throttle to go. I'm going to post lots of pics and if i get some request i will post some videos of it in action. Enjoy!! Please spread this post around if possible if you think its cool or if you can. Dont know how to put this elsewhere on the forum. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME!!!!
This is my duratrax evader. It has soo many upgrades and custom work that I don't know where to start!! It has 78 LEDs in total, 2 3s lipo's, 5 fans for cooling(I know it's overkill but they work great!) an Turnigy Trackstar 150a 1/8 scale sensored esc, Turnigy 540 Trackstar 4850kv 4pole brushless motor, an dimension engineering 6v 3amp sport bec, pro line powerstroke shocks, 4 channel flysky rec, rc lights full function led controller, and many more custom parts!! Next install will be an six speaker sound system. Got any questions I'll be happy to reply to. Oh one oh the best features is the ground spark system I created to shoot sparks out from the rear end with a button press on the controller. With all the extra weight on board I'm still able to pop wheelies and hit 45+mph easily with an 25 tooth pinon gear. Spur gear is 86t steel and aluminum.
!!!!!!!!!UPDATE!!!!!!!!
OK for anybody who cares i have completed my tricked out custom Duratraxx Evader. Its been a long time in the works with life and other things you have to take on a daily basis but i think im dome now. The 8 speaker 70 watt remote mp3 sound system was truly fun and rewarding to install!! This car is truly a show stopper now!! One look and listen at this car in action is something all RC car fans should see. I've only pushed it to 42 mph and its still more throttle to go. I'm going to post lots of pics and if i get some request i will post some videos of it in action. Enjoy!! Please spread this post around if possible if you think its cool or if you can. Dont know how to put this elsewhere on the forum. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME!!!!
Last edited by Tcafb; 09-09-2015 at 09:28 AM.
#2342
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PHWEEEEW!!! OK, you HAVE to get the award for "most stuff crammed under the lexan"! Jeezus, dude. How do you even change the batteries?
Yeah, would definitely like to see video. And some explanation of the digital displays. How much does that sucker weigh???
You must not run in the dirt, huh? That Integy fan would last about five minutes. They suck.
Yeah, would definitely like to see video. And some explanation of the digital displays. How much does that sucker weigh???
You must not run in the dirt, huh? That Integy fan would last about five minutes. They suck.
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PHWEEEEW!!! OK, you HAVE to get the award for "most stuff crammed under the lexan"! Jeezus, dude. How do you even change the batteries?
Yeah, would definitely like to see video. And some explanation of the digital displays. How much does that sucker weigh???
You must not run in the dirt, huh? That Integy fan would last about five minutes. They suck.
Yeah, would definitely like to see video. And some explanation of the digital displays. How much does that sucker weigh???
You must not run in the dirt, huh? That Integy fan would last about five minutes. They suck.
so they don't cut in on my run time. The two red digital displays show the voltage on each 3s lipo,the big blue one is the motor temp. The 5400mah 3s 65-130c lipo only powers the esc, bec-4cha.receiver-leds. The 4000mah 3s 20c lipo handles the sound system, fans, police leds. How can i post a vid????
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#2345
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LOL....NINE pounds?? Man, those PL shocks and springs are workin' hard. I gotta hand it to ya, you DID manage to stuff all you could under the lid. I had to laugh at your comment about the batteries being "rendered non-removable". And a 70 Watt sound system?! Hell, my first stereo only had 50 Watts. Definitely the most over-the-top Evader build I've ever seen. I do like the idea of having visible digital displays. That's kinda cool. (Not as cool as telemetry, but still...)
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LOL....NINE pounds?? Man, those PL shocks and springs are workin' hard. I gotta hand it to ya, you DID manage to stuff all you could under the lid. I had to laugh at your comment about the batteries being "rendered non-removable". And a 70 Watt sound system?! Hell, my first stereo only had 50 Watts. Definitely the most over-the-top Evader build I've ever seen. I do like the idea of having visible digital displays. That's kinda cool. (Not as cool as telemetry, but still...)
Thumbs up!
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#2347
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I came here to upload a quick shot of my son's Evader; but after seeing this guys' rig ^ I feel a little inadequate.
Really, I wanted to show off the wheel setup because I thought it could be something others might have been curious about. Since the Evader uses Associated style drive pins in the rear and bearings in the wheels up front I had to think about how I would go about putting SC wheels onto it. I ended up using an Associated SC10 set of hexes over the drive pins in the rear and DE Racing Trinidad for Traxxas Slash front on the rear axles. I used Trinidad's up front but for the SC10. Then I wrapped them all in ProLine Badlands. This combination ended up giving me equal offset front and rear and opened up many more tire options. I did have to trim away the front fenders on the body but depending on which lid you use you may have to do additional trimming.
#2348
.... putting SC wheels onto it. I ended up using an Associated SC10 set of hexes over the drive pins in the rear and DE Racing Trinidad for Traxxas Slash front on the rear axles. I used Trinidad's up front but for the SC10. Then I wrapped them all in ProLine Badlands. This combination ended up giving me equal offset front and rear and opened up many more tire options. I did have to trim away the front fenders on the body but depending on which lid you use you may have to do additional trimming.
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#2350
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Just be sure you look at the rims for the original SC10 with the bearings in the wheels, of course, and not for the later "RS" version which used hexes. I see what you mean about the T4 wheels because I have an RC10GT2 which uses basically the same setup. They have a deep dish to them like a stock Evader wheel. I didn't do a proper measurement but, these SC wheels look like they line up pretty close. You could use Slash rear wheels which might be 1 or 2mm narrower than a front set thus narrowing the rear track width slightly.
This did cross my mind but it would have been more involved; I thought of changing the front hardware on the Evader to SC10RS knuckles and axles which would allow me to use hex mounted wheels up front. I don't know if the parts would fit very well.
This did cross my mind but it would have been more involved; I thought of changing the front hardware on the Evader to SC10RS knuckles and axles which would allow me to use hex mounted wheels up front. I don't know if the parts would fit very well.