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Old 05-31-2006, 10:15 AM
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Default NEW TO R/C CARS: TOE IN/OUT?

HI.

I JUST GOT MY FIRST R/C CAR -TAMIYA MINI COOPER 1/10.
I LOVE THE WAY IT GO, NOW SHOULD I TRIM A TOE IN OR OUT IN THE FRONT WHEELS?
MY MOTOR IS NOT THE STOCK ONE ,HOW DO I USE THE TIMMING ADJUSTMENT THAT IT HAS?
SHOULD I DO IT?
THE MOTOR CALL "RUSH" BY TEAM ORION.

THANKS ALOT FOR YOUR KIND HELP!

ERAN
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The front tires should have about 1-2 degrees of toe in for better high speed handling. The motor is most likely already set with the best over all timing. You can advance it if you want more speed (more power) but the run times will drop and the motor will run warmer. Retarding the timing will give you a little more run time but the car will be slower (less power).
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Default RE: NEW TO R/C CARS: TOE IN/OUT?

Normally, R/C cars use 0 degrees toe, meaning no toe in or out. A little toe in would stabilize the car, but decrease steering power quite a bit. Toe in is rarely used. 1 degree of toe out is the max you would want to use, that would increase the steering power but it would also make the car more inconsistent in the straightaways and cause the car to be slightly unstable.

You can adjust the toe by lengthening or shortening your steering links.

I recommend that if you want more steering power, to add 1 degree of toe out. I do not recommend adding any toe in, ever.
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ORIGINAL: mattnin

Normally, R/C cars use 0 degrees toe, meaning no toe in or out. A little toe in would stabilize the car, but decrease steering power quite a bit. Toe in is rarely used. 1 degree of toe out is the max you would want to use, that would increase the steering power but it would also make the car more inconsistent in the straightaways and cause the car to be slightly unstable.

You can adjust the toe by lengthening or shortening your steering links.

I recommend that if you want more steering power, to add 1 degree of toe out. I do not recommend adding any toe in, ever.







Good point but it only applies if you have rear toe in set in the car but if you run '0' degrees in the rear you want some toe in in the front or it will be very unstable.
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thank you all for your kind answers!

RAZ i glue the Caps Lock button for you...
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JDMKYOSHO: Why post a useless comment? if youre not going to answer his question or help him...then dont type nothing.


I believe toe-out in the front is better for handling and toe-in in the rear.
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ORIGINAL: eranb

thank you all for your kind answers!

RAZ i glue the Caps Lock button for you...







I'm not the one that said it.
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Your all right, but at the same time wrong.

You MUST relize every car is diffrent.Every condition is diffrent.

Some cars you run it in a degree for smoother steering.Some car you run it out so it doesnt push.If im running tight technical track in run them out so I can ride pipe.If you booking it it threw HUGE sweepers run it in you you have a nice smooth turn.Generly start square, adjust as needed.
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I should have said you need either toe IN or OUT IF you run '0' degrees in the rear. If you run '0' front and rear the car will be very unstable in the staights.
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Run 0 in the front. Been front wheel drive... Is it a m03? My bet is it toes in when turning under power anyway from torque...they are not the tightest front ends...

If u are trying to improve the steering. I would recommend getting some alloy servo mounts and screw the servo in with 4 screws rather than 2. This will eliminate most of the movement in the stock mounting system
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Originally Posted by phmaximus
Run 0 in the front. Been front wheel drive... Is it a m03? My bet is it toes in when turning under power anyway from torque...they are not the tightest front ends...

If u are trying to improve the steering. I would recommend getting some alloy servo mounts and screw the servo in with 4 screws rather than 2. This will eliminate most of the movement in the stock mounting system
Phax you should know better look at the date of the last constructive post before we got the "Igk", and "Un" nonsense

So wish RCU auto locked old threads like this
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So does that mean this thread is re open?

If so then, this is going to sound dumb, how do I figure the ° of the toe? My axial has more jitter then micheal jackson at a 12yr old boys bday party.

My camber is good, I have it set like a mercedes, when I turn the wheels lay over and run on the whole contact patch instead of the shoulder of the tires.

My toe how ever is effed hard.
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Originally Posted by zackS30
So does that mean this thread is re open?

If so then, this is going to sound dumb, how do I figure the ° of the toe? My axial has more jitter then micheal jackson at a 12yr old boys bday party.

My camber is good, I have it set like a mercedes, when I turn the wheels lay over and run on the whole contact patch instead of the shoulder of the tires.

My toe how ever is effed hard.
No, I'm afraid it doesn't. Sadly, all locked threads got reopened after the software uprade recently, so I don't know whether or not this had been locked in the past. In any case, its getting locked now.

For what its worth, for off road you want a little toe out at the front and a decent amount of toe-in at the rear.

You can check these with a setup tool such as the hudy 1/10th setup station. There are cheaper options from Integy.
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