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Old 01-30-2009, 07:45 AM
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I wouldn't use two different motors. Just becuase the turn are the same it doesn't mean that thet will perform the same!! One motor can have more torque than the other ect...ect..ect. and if that is the case, you will damage your esc and gearboxes. Here is a guide that explains motors and everything you need to know about them.

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Figured that I'd run some RCs before the SuperBowl starts...
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LOL at the pic of Clod flying straight at me.. I almost got hit!!
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:28 AM
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PM sent to ya Lunchboxer...

Can it really go as fast as your vids by throwing an e-maxx ESC on there and two packs? Can I run one pack at a time as well?
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Yes, when you power up those silvercans w/ 2x the voltage, they are pretty quick..

I am not familiar w/ the EVX ESC, but I assume that you can run one pack only too... (I use HPI's Speed GT ESC.. and it let you do that.. so does the Novak Super Duty XR)
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ORIGINAL: tamiya trucker

its a futaba s3305 heavy duty
Normally I stick withFutaba but there is a more powerful and cheaper alternative if anyone has tried...

The cheap ebay MG 995's have almost 200oz of metal gear torque at 6v and are only $12 shipped form hongkong.

I have one in my LB from a previous project...and when the front took a hit it broke the chassis instead of the steering servo/servo saver. Thing is cheap and tough...out of the 5 of these servos I have owned one fried because two wires inside got too close (on a savage build) somehow and it shorted out. The other 4 have been in T-Maxx like projects with zero problems...plus...IT'S DIGITAL!
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Thanks!

EVX2's are pretty cheap...a brushless clod isn't too applealing to me...I am sure it would be a thirsty truck needing some good lipo amps. Using ordinary 6 cell 3800 packs is good for me and I can leave the 7 cell 3000 pack for my LB. That truck will be brushless by the summertime...unless I do the Midnightpumpkin mod and dump 10,000 jigowatts on the motor and cross my fingers lolz...
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:03 AM
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LOL at the pic of Clod flying straight at me.. I almost got hit!!
Who makes the front skid (i swear i searched) and how is your runtime affected with 2 steering servos sucking a little more juice(if it even is at all?)

An MSC clod with a throttle and steering servo would be in the same boat I assume but having an ESC and 2 HD servos probably draws a bit more.
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:04 AM
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For all you clod-type fans...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O44E4WmV_mg
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:05 AM
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Your clod really does turn very well I must say...I may scratch the upgraded tie rods and go for the on axle mod...hmmm. Was that from rc4wd or clodparts?
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Ah huh...

JunFac made that front skid..

I don't pay attention to the run time.. I am sure that dual servo vs. single servo isn't going to be significant enough.. the dual 540 motors will be the main factor in determining the run time..





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Who makes the front skid (i swear i searched) and how is your runtime affected with 2 steering servos sucking a little more juice(if it even is at all?)

An MSC clod with a throttle and steering servo would be in the same boat I assume but having an ESC and 2 HD servos probably draws a bit more.
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Ah huh...




JunFac made that front skid..

I don't pay attention to the run time.. I am sure that dual servo vs. single servo isn't going to be significant enough.. the dual 540 motors will be the main factor in determining the run time..





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Who makes the front skid (i swear i searched) and how is your runtime affected with 2 steering servos sucking a little more juice(if it even is at all?)

An MSC clod with a throttle and steering servo would be in the same boat I assume but having an ESC and 2 HD servos probably draws a bit more.

Is the CR-01 or TXT one the same? i can't find one for the clod on their site...hmmmm
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Nope, they are different.

And the reason why you can't find it on their website is because it hasn't been made for awhile.. discontinued awhile ago.. too bad, I really like them.. !
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Thanks!

EVX2's are pretty cheap...a brushless clod isn't too applealing to me...I am sure it would be a thirsty truck needing some good lipo amps. Using ordinary 6 cell 3800 packs is good for me and I can leave the 7 cell 3000 pack for my LB. That truck will be brushless by the summertime...unless I do the Midnightpumpkin mod and dump 10,000 jigowatts on the motor and cross my fingers lolz...
lol way out of controll, i for see my super clod buster going brushless [X(] . there cheap from hong kong so maybe not the best but for 100 bucks cant be beat. then getting a couple of 11volt lipo's for each brushless motors ....... hmmm 12 turn brushless should give it some get up and go [:-] wanna race
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Yes, when you power up those silvercans w/ 2x the voltage, they are pretty quick..

I am not familiar w/ the EVX ESC, but I assume that you can run one pack only too... (I use HPI's Speed GT ESC.. and it let you do that.. so does the Novak Super Duty XR)
I use one on my CLOD...
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well i got the box opened and i think i may use the jumbo kong tires and maybe not [&:]
i am waiting on tower for the chassis brace and then its build time do you all think a 8.5 turn brushless is too much
http://cgi.ebay.com/eZrun-RC-CAR-8-5...1%7C240%3A1318
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Going with an EVX2 is a slight improvement over Lunchboxers setup...very slight. His ESC was designed for 14.4 but as he noted can take 16.8. I think they handle amps in a similar fashion...mine will just be waterproof. If you run them as well cornell I'll pick it up and give it a shot.
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well i got the box opened and i think i may use the jumbo kong tires and maybe not [&:]


i am waiting on tower for the chassis brace and then its build time do you all think a 8.5 turn brushless is too much
http://cgi.ebay.com/eZrun-RC-CAR-8-5...1%7C240%3A1318

You better snag the alluminum anti-rotation brackets, chrome transmission cover, C hub brace, suspension braces and some Delrin/ALluminum gears or those round brick Kongs are going to make mincemeat of your drivetrain...forget about brushless with those! You need a serious ESP custom chassis to handle all that or you are going to have a 12 LB extra large paperweight!

Stick with 16.8V on stock cans...the motors are so darn cheap and as demonstrated can handle the volts and abuse. Going fast in this truck is like taking a 1:1 Gravedigger on the Autobon at 200+ mph!!
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Just found an EVX-2 for $65...I am in business! WOOOOOT!!!

Savage shocks and E-Maxx painted body showed up today as well...and my LB dually adapters I have no interest in anymore with the 800lb gorilla (clod) in the room lolz.

Phase one of the Super Clod makeover is installing the ESP braces, brackets, 16.8 EVX-2, mounting the E-Maxx blue shell, motor heatsinks, Savage shocks and selling off what i am not using. I am selling the purple Jeep body, old Magnum Sport and an extra set of wheels/tires from it. I am going to keep the extra Brain 959 for two pack charging. I am not sure if the Savage oil dampers will be too long but I can put fuel tubing inside on the shaft to knock down the travel. I also figured it would eliminate the need for the ESP lift kit. The shocks were only $20 shipped so I figured what the heck!

For phase 2 of the "Super Clod Super Stock" I am going with the Gmade/JunFac on axle steering kit eventually for its simplicity after I see how the stock system acts with the guys current setup. I like the fact i am eliminating alot of rods/flex, getting a better Kimbrough servo saver over the stocker and lowering the overall CG. With the extra steering servo the whole kit for 2 axles and servos will be around $60. It doesn't make sense to replace the stock kit with alluminum and the Crawford servo saver. When I saw the way Lunchboxer's Clod handles with on axle I realized it was a no brainer and shouldn't draw much from the system.

I am going to show one before photo and one after photo when everything finally arrives. This is going to take a month to gather my "nuts" but it is worth the wait! I also plan to paint the ESP chassis brace(black), steer kit (Blue), wheelie bar (black), suspension stiffener (blue/black), chrome Bullhead ladder arms(I totally lucked out finding these OMG they are rare!!!!!), blue motor heatsinks, outside motor pinion cover (blue), anti-rotation pieces (blue) and a few other goodies. This will take most of the spring but at least I have a vision of how it will all lay out and overall my budget looks good. Having 23T motors, ball bearings and things to trade/sell helped keep this somewhat under control.

80% of this project will mirror my old love...the original Clod I had almost 20 years ago to the day!

The EVX-2, 2 nimh packs, MG servos, and steering upgrades not available 20 years ago will set this truck apart from its older brother. I may get a little misty when I hear this thing wind out with those diffs...some familiar sounds/smells stay with us for years!

Looking forward to this Super Clod Super Stock refresh...thanks Lunchboxer and the gang for the hints, tips and support! The prvious owner thanked me for buying this from him before he dumped serious cash into this to make it a super class crawler lolz!
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Guys who sells the upgraded steel pinion? Should I stick with 13T?
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Robinson Racing sells the 13T steel pinion.. (which I use)

If you want to run anything other than 13T, you'd need to get adjustable motor mount.. I just stick w/ the stock setup..
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Robinson Racing 32 Pitch Pinion Gear 13T

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This looks correct X2 right?
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ok i have a clod in my garage i am going to get a new chassis for it and some shocks i will post pictures of it in progress i already have 2 speed controles i wired my self and 2 19 turn mod motors its pretty fast but needs more i also have the locker gear in the front im not going to make it a full rocker but it will be damn close it should have no problems jumping or crawling ill keep u all updated if you have any questions let me know even about hoping up any of the cars in my profile all of them have somthing done to them `
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oh yeah the waterproofing i used is super thick balloons on the 2 esc and reciver it works great and then just zip tie the ends up i live in idaho and play in the mud and water along with snow its a blast
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