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Old 03-04-2009, 08:28 AM
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You can certainly try that... probably work just fine.. !
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Old 03-04-2009, 08:29 AM
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Thoes parts add up to LB version of anti-rotation "linkage"..

Note the clearance.. (hence the need for the lock nut to be used as a spacer near the tranny case)

The problem w/ the aluminum setup (the way I see it) is that it is lack a degree of freedom in the system.. when the axle articulates, it creates a bending moment.. and after awhile, rocking it back and forth, it fatiqued the aluminum and breaking it.

OldSchool's bracket is most likely stronger so it won't break, I am sure.. but I think fundamentally, that is restricting the movement of the suspension..

The stock setup uses a plastic anti-rotation bracket which has some gives.. but I think by using a linkage, it should take care of most of the problem...

The linkage does have some slight bending when the axle is tilted to a pretty extreme angle, but I am not going to worry about that as I am using the U-bracket on the stock mounting location.. ideally, it should move out (toward wheel) slightly..

Anyway, no saying this is the way to go, but just figured that I'd try something new... ha!
looks good but that u bracket must be a PITA to get to when you have to disasseble ...I guess it could just stay there and you can just remove the two bolts on the link when you need to. Definitely original.
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You can certainly try that... probably work just fine.. !
I don't seem to notice any loss of articulation with what I have...only with the two ESP plates I had connecting the ladder arm helper thingys.

Does the gearbox move alot left to right now?
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Old 03-04-2009, 10:58 AM
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Not too bad, as you can just remove the blue part (the support brace or whatever you call it) and then you can get to the link, and remove the link, and get to the U-bracket..

I don't see myself taking it off anytime soon, though.. ! Really no reason to...



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looks good but that u bracket must be a PITA to get to when you have to disasseble ...I guess it could just stay there and you can just remove the two bolts on the link when you need to. Definitely original.
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Old 03-04-2009, 11:08 AM
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No, the gearbox does not move left and right, as the anti-rotation bracket was not meant to prevent the gearbox from moving left to right to begin with. It's job should only be preventing the gearbox from rotating. The blue parts that's screws onto the suspension arms / links are the parts that's providing lateral support.

The problem w/ the anti-rotation bracket is that it is mounted to the tranny and the blue brace. But when the gearbox tilts (one wheel up, one wheel down), the 2 parts are not tilting at the same angles, and that's where the binding comes in.. it is probably okay as the blue brace is made of plastic and you either bend the aluminum bracket or the blue brace slightly..

But apparently, the constant bending (as small as it is) on the bracket was enough to break it (due to fatique on the metal). So that's why I thought the solution should be adding that extra degree of freedom, instead of making a stronger part.

But your thought about putting a spacer / fuel tubing will probably achieve similar result. It will allow the gearbox to tilt without transmitting all that force to the bracket..



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I don't seem to notice any loss of articulation with what I have...only with the two ESP plates I had connecting the ladder arm helper thingys.

Does the gearbox move alot left to right now?
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Old 03-04-2009, 11:59 AM
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You bring up some good points...i understand.
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:27 PM
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Default RE: Super Clod Buster Build-up Thread

The other thing about using the link as anti-rotation device -> you can change the link length to adjust the caster angle if you want..

I might try a shorter link up front.. to give it some caster angle.. but not sure if I can make links that short.. (there's only a certain amount that you can cut down on the ball ends, LOL!)
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:36 PM
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Crazy man!

Castor on a clod lolz!

The 4WS is good enough for me at these speeds haha!
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Old 03-04-2009, 01:09 PM
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I have the castor on my Clod tuned. If you have the ability to do it, why not? It does make a difference.
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Old 03-04-2009, 01:14 PM
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It is easy on a 4-link setup.. !

On my TXT, I run slightly longer lower links (up front) compare to stock to give it some more caster...
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Old 03-04-2009, 01:17 PM
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Yeah, I just adjust the threaded rod length on my rods and rod ends to change mine. It is definitely easy. Getting everything perfectly square takes a little extra time though.
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Old 03-04-2009, 01:55 PM
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You guys are talking about caster/not camber right? What rod can adjust camber stock other then screwing around with the anti twist?
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:05 PM
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I don't know if you can adjust castor on a stock Clod really. Their is no adjusting the camber stock for sure, and I don't think you can buy any aftermarket parts that change it. I've never run a stock Clod, my stuff's all custom. All my stock parts are still on the trees and in the bags except for the axles.
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Straight axle, no camber, dude... the only way would be to swap out the steering block / knuckle for some custom made pieces...
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:32 PM
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Yeah, I know about the straight axle camber deal. I just don't know for sure if anyone makes any axle tubes or steering knuckles that have variances from stock. Otherwise their is no way to change camber. I've been running full size mud trucks for about 12 years, I know a thing or two about straight axles.
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Was responding to OldSchool's post above..
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Old 03-05-2009, 10:22 PM
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Snapped one of the rear body mount a few days ago.. (just the part where the pin goes through.. not the whole body mount) So it is time to make the "stock" Clod better..

Use the Tamiya F-1 aluminum body mount.. (got to stay w/ Tamiya, of course.. )
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Notice the height is perfect...

Just need to Dremel the old post off... drill a through hole for the machine screw, and we are in business!
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Ready for battles... [8D]
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Old 03-05-2009, 10:31 PM
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Default RE: Super Clod Buster Build-up Thread

OK ok ok...what is that antenna tube doing?

On a side note I would LOVE to romp our clods and minightpumpkin too!

(when his axles ever come in!)
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That's it, the antenna tube is only about 4" long.. it is for the 2.4GHz RX.. (short antenna) Keeps inside the shell...
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Old 03-05-2009, 10:43 PM
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Default RE: Super Clod Buster Build-up Thread

I knew you said you had DSM...pretty trick if I say so myself.

I thought those antennas like to be extended at least 4 inches above the receiver for range/interference protection/etc.

Not like the clod is going to take a trip around the block lol...

If it works and it is short range anyway who cares right?

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Not DSM.. I have FASST, Futaba's version of 2.4GHz stuff...

I usually just run the antenna along side the chassis..
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