Off Road Racer / Pro 2â„¢ ThunderTech Scale Desert Truck Prototype
02-27-2007, 01:15 AM
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I could care less for Carbon fiber, but my point was that I felt the high price tag is not so justified, as some customers may overlook it to be. I can understand it's value as a scale appearance truck, but I consider it to be much more shelf queen material than performer, and therefore again not worth such a ridiculous price. Still I acknowledge it is a nice truck to have some "realistic" off-road driving fun with.
I'd think it would be reasonable if it was $250. $385 to me just sort of says "we know it's cool so pay us our obviously ridiculous price, or go away." I think I'm not totally wrong in saying that most people who've studied a little macroeconomics would agree that there aren't more people into this hobby partly due to the ridiculous prices.
Sorry, it's hard for me to explain my entire opinion in a few lines on an internet forum.
I'd think it would be reasonable if it was $250. $385 to me just sort of says "we know it's cool so pay us our obviously ridiculous price, or go away." I think I'm not totally wrong in saying that most people who've studied a little macroeconomics would agree that there aren't more people into this hobby partly due to the ridiculous prices.
Sorry, it's hard for me to explain my entire opinion in a few lines on an internet forum.
02-27-2007, 04:23 AM
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I think a big part of it is because it is such a niche product, don't you think?!
If it is like an E-Maxx or Stampede where they are expecting to sell a whole bunch of them.. then they can price it accordingly.. however, for this one, heck, initially, only 20 people got them.. and afterward, I'd guess the product will still be somewhat limited as well...
Performance or not, the fact that they can not sell enough (to offset the R&D cost, economy of scale, supply / demand), will just drive up the price..
02-27-2007, 09:31 AM
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Nice scale truck. Tough it's probably not gonna be raced except against other scale trucks, since it probably can't perform at the level of other race designed 2wd r/c trucks (AE T4 , Losi XXX-T etc). I'd toss it around for fun around my dirt field if I got one.
But as usual, such a reasonable price tag... especially since some of it's put together with parts from other r/c companies...even if it's under the giuse of "custom."
I'd like to rip the guy who comes up with prices a new one..... It's not even Carbon Fiber to excuse *some* of the price....... I hope that the real "street" price is more reasonable than that blatent rip on the website.
Nice scale truck. Tough it's probably not gonna be raced except against other scale trucks, since it probably can't perform at the level of other race designed 2wd r/c trucks (AE T4 , Losi XXX-T etc). I'd toss it around for fun around my dirt field if I got one.
But as usual, such a reasonable price tag... especially since some of it's put together with parts from other r/c companies...even if it's under the giuse of "custom."
I'd like to rip the guy who comes up with prices a new one..... It's not even Carbon Fiber to excuse *some* of the price....... I hope that the real "street" price is more reasonable than that blatent rip on the website.
As for the racing, you are correct. This is a Pro 2 truck and just like in real life, they only race each other.
02-27-2007, 09:38 AM
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ORIGINAL: Slo-V Flyer
I could care less for Carbon fiber, but my point was that I felt the high price tag is not so justified, as some customers may overlook it to be. I can understand it's value as a scale appearance truck, but I consider it to be much more shelf queen material than performer, and therefore again not worth such a ridiculous price. Still I acknowledge it is a nice truck to have some "realistic" off-road driving fun with.
I'd think it would be reasonable if it was $250. $385 to me just sort of says "we know it's cool so pay us our obviously ridiculous price, or go away." I think I'm not totally wrong in saying that most people who've studied a little macroeconomics would agree that there aren't more people into this hobby partly due to the ridiculous prices. Sorry, it's hard for me to explain my entire opinion in a few lines on an internet forum.
I could care less for Carbon fiber, but my point was that I felt the high price tag is not so justified, as some customers may overlook it to be. I can understand it's value as a scale appearance truck, but I consider it to be much more shelf queen material than performer, and therefore again not worth such a ridiculous price. Still I acknowledge it is a nice truck to have some "realistic" off-road driving fun with.
I'd think it would be reasonable if it was $250. $385 to me just sort of says "we know it's cool so pay us our obviously ridiculous price, or go away." I think I'm not totally wrong in saying that most people who've studied a little macroeconomics would agree that there aren't more people into this hobby partly due to the ridiculous prices.
Sorry, it's hard for me to explain my entire opinion in a few lines on an internet forum.
It's just a matter of opinion. I drove it around last night and it is 10 times more capable than the 350 could ever be.
Anyway, I think you opinion is valid and I understand what you are saying.
I can say, though, that I felt the same way until I had it in my hands.
02-27-2007, 09:43 AM
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I think a big part of it is because it is such a niche product, don't you think?!
If it is like an E-Maxx or Stampede where they are expecting to sell a whole bunch of them.. then they can price it accordingly.. however, for this one, heck, initially, only 20 people got them.. and afterward, I'd guess the product will still be somewhat limited as well...
Performance or not, the fact that they can not sell enough (to offset the R&D cost, economy of scale, supply / demand), will just drive up the price..
I think a big part of it is because it is such a niche product, don't you think?!
If it is like an E-Maxx or Stampede where they are expecting to sell a whole bunch of them.. then they can price it accordingly.. however, for this one, heck, initially, only 20 people got them.. and afterward, I'd guess the product will still be somewhat limited as well...
Performance or not, the fact that they can not sell enough (to offset the R&D cost, economy of scale, supply / demand), will just drive up the price..
02-27-2007, 10:04 AM
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Holy effing poop! I love it, i want one, my wife isn't going to hear the end of it....Hey TEX, I know it's a "scale" truck, but what kind of power do you think it would handle? I like this SO much more than the typical T4\XXX-t. This is the kind of truck I've been waiting for!
02-27-2007, 10:09 AM
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Holy effing poop! I love it, i want one, my wife isn't going to hear the end of it....Hey TEX, I know it's a "scale" truck, but what kind of power do you think it would handle? I like this SO much more than the typical T4\XXX-t. This is the kind of truck I've been waiting for!
Holy effing poop! I love it, i want one, my wife isn't going to hear the end of it....Hey TEX, I know it's a "scale" truck, but what kind of power do you think it would handle? I like this SO much more than the typical T4\XXX-t. This is the kind of truck I've been waiting for!
Ya, it's quite a truck and the frame is surprisingly rigid.
02-27-2007, 10:25 AM
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The thing is, I want another vehicle to play with (no racing), and my wife has agreed to let me spend some money on my "car stuff", so I'm trying to put together a wish list. I've pretty much decided on a new 3PM radio and some sort of brushless setup, preferably Castle; do you think a 5700 MM on 6 cells would be overkill? Maybe a 4600? I want to get away from antique brushed motors. As far as putting the power to the ground, I'll just have to practice driving more, as long as the truck will handle it mechanically.
02-27-2007, 10:34 AM
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The thing is, I want another vehicle to play with (no racing), and my wife has agreed to let me spend some money on my "car stuff", so I'm trying to put together a wish list. I've pretty much decided on a new 3PM radio and some sort of brushless setup, preferably Castle; do you think a 5700 MM on 6 cells would be overkill? Maybe a 4600? I want to get away from antique brushed motors. As far as putting the power to the ground, I'll just have to practice driving more, as long as the truck will handle it mechanically.
The thing is, I want another vehicle to play with (no racing), and my wife has agreed to let me spend some money on my "car stuff", so I'm trying to put together a wish list. I've pretty much decided on a new 3PM radio and some sort of brushless setup, preferably Castle; do you think a 5700 MM on 6 cells would be overkill? Maybe a 4600? I want to get away from antique brushed motors. As far as putting the power to the ground, I'll just have to practice driving more, as long as the truck will handle it mechanically.
Give me some time to test some motors out. I doubt I will be testing any low turn BL systems since the highest turn BL I have is the 5700kv, so, I will be staying with brushed for now since I have a bunch of those laying around.
Once I have worked out some of the bugs I think the 5700kv would be the limit.
02-27-2007, 11:25 AM
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TEX, you have brightened my life...now for that comp. cheque to arrive...LOL!
TEX, you have brightened my life...now for that comp. cheque to arrive...LOL!
02-27-2007, 12:08 PM
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WOW That looks beautiful!![X(] Only 2wd though[&o] (I know its a scale truck but 4wd would be more fun
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I WANT A VID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! pretty please[
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How much will the production kit cost and what is the new body style the company is going to make? I hope it is of a up to date truck I love watching those truck races...crash fests!!!
]How much will the production kit cost and what is the new body style the company is going to make? I hope it is of a up to date truck
I love watching those truck races...crash fests!!!
02-27-2007, 07:48 PM
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I WANT A VID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! pretty please[]
How much will the production kit cost and what is the new body style the company is going to make? I hope it is of a up to date truck I love watching those truck races...crash fests!!!
I WANT A VID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! pretty please[
]How much will the production kit cost and what is the new body style the company is going to make? I hope it is of a up to date truck
I love watching those truck races...crash fests!!!
The weather is crap right now, but when it dries out I will have video for sure.
02-27-2007, 08:00 PM
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Refitted the chassis with Tamiya DF03 shocks. The Associated shocks just weren't up to the task.
02-27-2007, 08:10 PM
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ORIGINAL: Raguvian
Isn't it hard to get the battery in and out?
And it looks like a brick.[:'(]
Isn't it hard to get the battery in and out?
And it looks like a brick.[:'(]
I understand though, I can be close minded at times too.
02-27-2007, 08:18 PM
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Lets have some more pics with the body on ect
Lets have some more pics with the body on ect
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Not really, the straps pop right off and you slide it out. Plus the body is not on it right now. Don't be so close minded.
I understand though, I can be close minded at times too.
ORIGINAL: Raguvian
Isn't it hard to get the battery in and out?
And it looks like a brick.[:'(]
Isn't it hard to get the battery in and out?
And it looks like a brick.[:'(]
I understand though, I can be close minded at times too.
Plus if it's a scale truck why does it need so much protection?
02-27-2007, 10:05 PM
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I guess I don't follow your question...
Scale just means it looks like a real one.. i.e., the dimension, etc. are scale to the real vehicle.. does not mean that it is low performance.. slow.. etc.
ORIGINAL: Raguvian
Plus if it's a scale truck why does it need so much protection?
Plus if it's a scale truck why does it need so much protection?
02-27-2007, 10:08 PM
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Hmm.. maybe make the rear links longer... thicker oil? Some more pre-load?
I'd like to see that for sure!!
ORIGINAL: []TEX[]
...since this is a shaft drive chassis it has a large amount of torque roll.
...since this is a shaft drive chassis it has a large amount of torque roll.