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Old 04-26-2008, 10:47 AM
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what is the difference between brushed and brushless motors? thanks
Old 04-26-2008, 10:51 AM
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Default RE: brushed VS brushless motor

bushed motors have brushess and brushless dont..
brushless are usually faster and have less maintenance
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Default RE: brushed VS brushless motor

Brushed motors need comm cuts and brush replacement every 5-10 runs.

Brushless just need a good oiling every now and then.

Plus brushless is more efficient. And can go real fast.
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okay then wouldn't brushless be cheaper then brushed? [sm=confused.gif]
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okay then wouldn't brushless be cheaper then brushed? [sm=confused.gif]
No.
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okay then wouldn't brushless be cheaper then brushed? [sm=confused.gif]
No.
In the long run its cheaper. Esspecially if you get a comm lathe for the brushed motor.
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will there be a decrease in power when the brushes wear out in the motor?
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yes
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okay, that explains why may electric cars seem to be getting slower as the day goes by [&o], thanks for the help
can the speed controller in the e-revo handle brushless motors?
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I know it depends on the car, but about how much does the brushes cost to be replaced every 5-10 runs?
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I know it depends on the car, but about how much does the brushes cost to be replaced every 5-10 runs?
the e-revo i don't know anything about the titans that they put in there.
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okay, that explains why may electric cars seem to be getting slower as the day goes by [&o], thanks for the help
can the speed controller in the e-revo handle brushless motors?
No, the speedo in the E-revo is a bog stocker EVX-2 for the two brushed titans that come with the E-revo.

Brushless motor ESCs are totally different to Brushed ESCs as the motors work differently. However brushless ESCs sometimes work with brushed motors, Castle Creations MM esc for example, will run both brushed and brushless motors. However it requires the ESC to be set in a different mode, and failure to do this will destroy the ESC.

Brushless ESCs are far more complex, hence the reason brushless ESCs are almost always more expensive than brushed ESCs, and hence the reason that releasing an RTR brushless vehicle is a big deal.
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okay, that explains why may electric cars seem to be getting slower as the day goes by [&o], thanks for the help
can the speed controller in the e-revo handle brushless motors?
No, the speedo in the E-revo is a bog stocker EVX-2 for the two brushed titans that come with the E-revo.

Brushless motor ESCs are totally different to Brushed ESCs as the motors work differently. However brushless ESCs sometimes work with brushed motors, Castle Creations MM esc for example, will run both brushed and brushless motors. However it requires the ESC to be set in a different mode, and failure to do this will destroy the ESC.

Brushless ESCs are far more complex, hence the reason brushless ESCs are almost always more expensive than brushed ESCs, and hence the reason that releasing an RTR brushless vehicle is a big deal.
ok thanks for the help, these brushless motors may be the nail in the coffin for nitro.
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Default RE: brushed VS brushless motor

i found a used brushless caslte 4800kv for 60 bux at my lhs but is was a steal but now i need a mm
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arrrgh im gettin a 10 turn brushed today should i get a 12.5 turn mototr instead? i know the powerband in the brushed is better
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i found a used brushless caslte 4800kv for 60 bux at my lhs but is was a steal but now i need a mm
[X(] that should be illegal.
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what is the difference between brushed and brushless motors? thanks
Brushed is cheaper to run but expensive to maintain...need a comm lathe

Brushless no comm lathe needed, and the motors last a while, the only thing you need to replace is the front bearing every 300 runs.
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i only have to replace my brushes every 60 runs with my lrp fusion fase 4.1[8D]
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how much will a comm lathe run me?
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Default RE: brushed VS brushless motor

a com lathe with a motor can be had for about $120
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a com lathe with a motor can be had for about $120
great another thing i have to buy[:@]. does anybody know a good,cheap, 1/8th scale brushless motor system?

BTW my dad has a bunch of scale train how come the brushed motors in there do not wear out?
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a com lathe with a motor can be had for about $120
great another thing i have to buy[:@]. does anybody know a good,cheap, 1/8th scale brushless motor system?

BTW my dad has a bunch of scale train how come the brushed motors in there do not wear out?
just look for the cc 1/18 sidewinder setup great price brushed is a thing of the past i have a sidewinder for my 1/10 scale truggie it runs brushed or brushless i got a 4600 in it
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Default RE: brushed VS brushless motor

brushed is a thing of the past they don`t last long and don`t have the torque and overall speed a brushless has
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yeah the reason i am asking all these question is because i am debating about getting an e-revo when it is released but i hate the titan motors they put in there. I really do not want a mamba max or Nue motor because i can't spend that much money[:@]. Will the side winder work for that? i really do not care or want anything to go above 30 or 40 MPH. i am driving in parks or my yard most of the time so anything above 40 is over kill.
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No, not for something so big.


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