Want my Slash to beat a buddies Savage X
07-16-2008, 10:23 PM
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Want my Slash to beat a buddies Savage X
I'm a nitro guy at heart, but I couldn't resist buying a traxxas slash. Now the speed bug has hit me, and I want to go brushless. At this point, all I want to do is beat my buddies Savage X. I'm sure his Savage can hit 40+ mph, so I want my slash to beat this. Would the Velineon from Traxxas and a 7 cell acomplish this? I know a 3s lipo will do the trick, but I won't be going lipo quite yet, and I have alot of Nimh batteries laying around. Or, would I be better off with a Mamba max and a 4600 or 5700? Is the 5700 a little to much for the Slash. I don't want any overheating. Thanks!
07-16-2008, 10:39 PM
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RE: Want my Slash to beat a buddies Savage X
The slash is plenty prepared for brushless with its all metal tranny. If you're on a budget, get a sidewinder 5700, using a good 7 cell, you can get atleast 45...
But if you're willing to pay, get the mamba max 7700. It's the highest kv rating and I've seen it hit 50 with just a 6 cell!
But if you're willing to pay, get the mamba max 7700. It's the highest kv rating and I've seen it hit 50 with just a 6 cell!
07-16-2008, 10:56 PM
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RE: Want my Slash to beat a buddies Savage X
ORIGINAL: t9dragon
Go with the Mamba Maxx 5700............ The Mamba Max is more programmable then the VXL..............
Go with the Mamba Maxx 5700............ The Mamba Max is more programmable then the VXL..............
07-16-2008, 11:28 PM
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RE: Want my Slash to beat a buddies Savage X
ORIGINAL: Takedown
I say get the MM ESC and the velineon 3500 and run it on 3s. It'll be a perfect setup and a powerhouse.
ORIGINAL: t9dragon
Go with the Mamba Maxx 5700............ The Mamba Max is more programmable then the VXL..............
Go with the Mamba Maxx 5700............ The Mamba Max is more programmable then the VXL..............
07-16-2008, 11:39 PM
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RE: Want my Slash to beat a buddies Savage X
ORIGINAL: Hordsak
I've heard the 7700 will be too much, and it will get too hot.
I've heard the 7700 will be too much, and it will get too hot.
07-17-2008, 12:19 AM
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RE: Want my Slash to beat a buddies Savage X
What kind of gearing would be safe? Could I use the 23t pinion with that setup, or should I run the smaller pinion?
07-17-2008, 12:54 AM
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RE: Want my Slash to beat a buddies Savage X
I just found a new Velineon with 3350 motor on ebay for 120 bucks. I couldn't pass that up. Can I run a different motor with the VXL esc, if I wanted to in the future?
07-17-2008, 09:01 AM
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RE: Want my Slash to beat a buddies Savage X
ORIGINAL: Always Dreamin
All you need is a 5700 on 2s or 3s and you'll beat him.. Plus torque will be amazing.
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I've heard the 7700 will be too much, and it will get too hot.
I've heard the 7700 will be too much, and it will get too hot.
07-17-2008, 12:30 PM
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the vxl system will be plenty of power for you. the sidewinder and mamba systems have extra nice features, but IMO fancy features can also mean more to go wrong. i have a NEW sidewinder esc sitting right now, cause i cant get my computer to use the castle link. and the millions of programable features on the esc make it really hard to program via your transmitter. the vxl esc on the other had, one button and only the features you will require. its plenty capable of beating a savage on 7cell, tho i would suggest a 2s 20C lipo. youll get better punch, and longer runtimes. not to mention, the less wieght of a lipo.
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RE: Want my Slash to beat a buddies Savage X
Look, it's not that hard...
You need a brushless system
Right gearing
Lipo..
The Savage is as good as gone..
You need a brushless system
Right gearing
Lipo..
The Savage is as good as gone..
07-17-2008, 12:53 PM
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RE: Want my Slash to beat a buddies Savage X
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the vxl system will be plenty of power for you. the sidewinder and mamba systems have extra nice features, but IMO fancy features can also mean more to go wrong. i have a NEW sidewinder esc sitting right now, cause i cant get my computer to use the castle link. and the millions of programable features on the esc make it really hard to program via your transmitter. the vxl esc on the other had, one button and only the features you will require. its plenty capable of beating a savage on 7cell, tho i would suggest a 2s 20C lipo. youll get better punch, and longer runtimes. not to mention, the less wieght of a lipo.
the vxl system will be plenty of power for you. the sidewinder and mamba systems have extra nice features, but IMO fancy features can also mean more to go wrong. i have a NEW sidewinder esc sitting right now, cause i cant get my computer to use the castle link. and the millions of programable features on the esc make it really hard to program via your transmitter. the vxl esc on the other had, one button and only the features you will require. its plenty capable of beating a savage on 7cell, tho i would suggest a 2s 20C lipo. youll get better punch, and longer runtimes. not to mention, the less wieght of a lipo.
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RE: Want my Slash to beat a buddies Savage X
I'm running a MM/Velineon combo in my Desert Truck and on a 3 cell lipo it'll top out at around 40mph (I haven't radared it yet I'm just estimating). I have a Castle 4600kv that I'm going to use to replace the Velineon - it should be faster since the Velineon is a 3500kv motor.
I also have a MM/Castle 5700 combo in my Stampede and it tops out at well over 50 mph (again just an estimate, but it's way faster than my DT). I actually haven't been able to do a full throttle run with it yet because the front end keeps lifting. I gotta put some weights on the front end.
According to the Castle tech I talked to: If you are only planning on running 2S lipo or less, a Sidewinder is enough. But if you want to run 3S the Mamba Max is better.
I also have a MM/Castle 5700 combo in my Stampede and it tops out at well over 50 mph (again just an estimate, but it's way faster than my DT). I actually haven't been able to do a full throttle run with it yet because the front end keeps lifting. I gotta put some weights on the front end.
According to the Castle tech I talked to: If you are only planning on running 2S lipo or less, a Sidewinder is enough. But if you want to run 3S the Mamba Max is better.
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RE: Want my Slash to beat a buddies Savage X
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I'm running a MM/Velineon combo in my Desert Truck and on a 3 cell lipo it'll top out at around 40mph (I haven't radared it yet I'm just estimating). I have a Castle 4600kv that I'm going to use to replace the Velineon - it should be faster since the Velineon is a 3500kv motor.
I also have a MM/Castle 5700 combo in my Stampede and it tops out at well over 50 mph (again just an estimate, but it's way faster than my DT). I actually haven't been able to do a full throttle run with it yet because the front end keeps lifting. I gotta put some weights on the front end.
According to the Castle tech I talked to: If you are only planning on running 2S lipo or less, a Sidewinder is enough. But if you want to run 3S the Mamba Max is better.
I'm running a MM/Velineon combo in my Desert Truck and on a 3 cell lipo it'll top out at around 40mph (I haven't radared it yet I'm just estimating). I have a Castle 4600kv that I'm going to use to replace the Velineon - it should be faster since the Velineon is a 3500kv motor.
I also have a MM/Castle 5700 combo in my Stampede and it tops out at well over 50 mph (again just an estimate, but it's way faster than my DT). I actually haven't been able to do a full throttle run with it yet because the front end keeps lifting. I gotta put some weights on the front end.
According to the Castle tech I talked to: If you are only planning on running 2S lipo or less, a Sidewinder is enough. But if you want to run 3S the Mamba Max is better.
07-17-2008, 02:18 PM
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RE: Want my Slash to beat a buddies Savage X
I've tried gearing it up but it gets too hot. I don't remember exactly what gears I'm running now but I've geared down considerably from stock. I think it's 16/90, something like that. I did a lot of experimenting with the spur/pinion and even with the low gearing I have now it still gets too hot on 3S.
07-17-2008, 02:35 PM
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my castle link program is installed, says it reads that the esc is plugged in(both boxes show green)....but when i try to do anything it gives this message "no controller or invalide controller connected" i have a thunderbird esc on the way...if that one works with the link, then the sidewinder is the problem. if not, then its the link thats faulty.
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I've tried gearing it up but it gets too hot. I don't remember exactly what gears I'm running now but I've geared down considerably from stock. I think it's 16/90, something like that. I did a lot of experimenting with the spur/pinion and even with the low gearing I have now it still gets too hot on 3S.
I've tried gearing it up but it gets too hot. I don't remember exactly what gears I'm running now but I've geared down considerably from stock. I think it's 16/90, something like that. I did a lot of experimenting with the spur/pinion and even with the low gearing I have now it still gets too hot on 3S.
