Evader or Rustler? Experienced racer looking for opinions!
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i would not buy a evader you can only go from what you experiance iam sure some guys have had good luck with them but for me it was the worst r/c i ever owend , and not very durable at all . after a very short time of owning this model the chassie snapped in half like a pretzel . this was with very light use .i ended up parting it out . i dont rate duretraxx at all and would never buy another . thanks .
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Ah, I've seen RTR XXX4's go for 175$ here lately as I've been watching (Like I said, JUST came back in) and T4/B4 RTR (although cheap electronis) go for around 150, that's why I asked, but I understand your reasoning. I've always jus had the mentality that buying cheap is just a precursor and he'll want more haha.
Hope he has lots of fun!
Hope he has lots of fun!
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Where I live, there are NO real hobby shops, so when I break a part, no RC for a week =(
Where I live, there are NO real hobby shops, so when I break a part, no RC for a week =(
yeah, nice choice with the evader i would've said get the PRO, but its DISCONT. so no go there, i got the pro love it, but to make the ep a good racer, my top 3 mods, to run in a good fast class, B2 diff mod, MG servo, deans connectors, they're a great truck crazy adjustable, and they still sell many parts that came stock on the pro (basically a super hoped up evader) so it can be more adjustable, you get adjusable rear toe, and adjustable steering akerman, thats it for extra adjustablitly that you can get on the truck, everything else about the truck is adjustable, except for i wanna say its caster (angle of from shock tower), everything else, wheel base, shocks, toe, (not rear on reg evader), camber, slipper, diff....
its a great truck, i love mine and be sure to check out The Evader Colition
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yeah and make sure you get a strong chassie they snap like pretzels , or you could buy a decent r/c ,
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yeah and make sure you get a strong chassie they snap like pretzels , or you could buy a decent r/c ,
yeah and make sure you get a strong chassie they snap like pretzels , or you could buy a decent r/c ,
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If they were THAT bad, they wouldnt be sold still.
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ORIGINAL: Ken448
EXACTLY what Im not looking for (as stated in the OP) Have anything to back that up? Or is it a "well, I know a friend that has a friend" statement?
kthxbye
If they were THAT bad, they wouldnt be sold still.
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yeah and make sure you get a strong chassie they snap like pretzels , or you could buy a decent r/c ,
yeah and make sure you get a strong chassie they snap like pretzels , or you could buy a decent r/c ,
kthxbye
If they were THAT bad, they wouldnt be sold still.
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ya i feel you nitrozac54....
i asked my parents for a few parts for my slash for christmas and when christmas came i got nothing... They said it wastes all my time and money, and i have the exact prob as you. When I buy stuff online with my dads card and i pay him back... he always thinks its the dumbest thing in the world to spend money on and always tries to make me quit R/C
i asked my parents for a few parts for my slash for christmas and when christmas came i got nothing... They said it wastes all my time and money, and i have the exact prob as you. When I buy stuff online with my dads card and i pay him back... he always thinks its the dumbest thing in the world to spend money on and always tries to make me quit R/C
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ORIGINAL: Ken448
EXACTLY what Im not looking for (as stated in the OP) Have anything to back that up? Or is it a "well, I know a friend that has a friend" statement?
kthxbye
If they were THAT bad, they wouldnt be sold still.
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yeah and make sure you get a strong chassie they snap like pretzels , or you could buy a decent r/c ,
yeah and make sure you get a strong chassie they snap like pretzels , or you could buy a decent r/c ,
kthxbye
If they were THAT bad, they wouldnt be sold still.
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RE: Evader or Rustler? Experienced racer looking for opinions!
a full list of what i have busted on mine in 2 years of owning the evader pro
1 a arm
2 stock servos
2 palstic servo horns
1 bellcrank
1 idler gear
2 stock diff gears
1 set of front rims (the stockers, the rubber was gone at this point so no biggy)
2 rears, same as fronts really
2 spurs, lazy me didn't set good mesh
uhhh yeah, thats my FULL LIST, 2 years hard bashing, and its now BL so i'll be hard pressed to find a weakness in this truck, like i said, its not desgined to be hit by a train and drive off, if you want that just get a savage (flux for you E ppl) and be done with it...
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1 a arm
2 stock servos
2 palstic servo horns
1 bellcrank
1 idler gear
2 stock diff gears
1 set of front rims (the stockers, the rubber was gone at this point so no biggy)
2 rears, same as fronts really
2 spurs, lazy me didn't set good mesh
uhhh yeah, thats my FULL LIST, 2 years hard bashing, and its now BL so i'll be hard pressed to find a weakness in this truck, like i said, its not desgined to be hit by a train and drive off, if you want that just get a savage (flux for you E ppl) and be done with it...
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sorry notatoy, you are the only one here that thinks it is total junk.. Besides that it will be a track car only, not a basher so I am not too worried. AND a chassiS cost about 20-30 maybe? Small price to pay for fun!
Thanks again all for the comments!
Thanks again all for the comments!
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sorry notatoy, you are the only one here that thinks it is total junk.. Besides that it will be a track car only, not a basher so I am not too worried. AND a chassiS cost about 20-30 maybe? Small price to pay for fun!
Thanks again all for the comments!
sorry notatoy, you are the only one here that thinks it is total junk.. Besides that it will be a track car only, not a basher so I am not too worried. AND a chassiS cost about 20-30 maybe? Small price to pay for fun!
Thanks again all for the comments!
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sorry notatoy, you are the only one here that thinks it is total junk.. Besides that it will be a track car only, not a basher so I am not too worried. AND a chassiS cost about 20-30 maybe? Small price to pay for fun!
Thanks again all for the comments!
sorry notatoy, you are the only one here that thinks it is total junk.. Besides that it will be a track car only, not a basher so I am not too worried. AND a chassiS cost about 20-30 maybe? Small price to pay for fun!
Thanks again all for the comments!
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my evader was a POS, and i spent all my money trying not to make it one, but in the end it was still a pos, so i had to give up on it, it was a money pit... then i got a stampede![>:]
Whats up with 19t motors stripping the idler?, or the diff and slipper always loosening them selfs every run and brittle broke parts![:@]
Whats up with 19t motors stripping the idler?, or the diff and slipper always loosening them selfs every run and brittle broke parts![:@]
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I see it this way.. It is a track car, NOT a basher. I am not the least bit worried about it lasting. If he gets 6 months out of it to learn on GREAT, it was $120 well spent. Did I mention it was $120? Itll see 2 ft of air 99% of the time with MAYBE a bigger 3' jump thrown in every now and then. You buy a cheap car, you get a cheap car. Do I think itll out perform my Losi's.. Heck now. Do I think itll be fine to learn on? For $120, abso-freekin-lutley! If he has nothing but problems for 6 months, Ill be sure to post here what the issues AND FIXES are.
Theres no excuse for stripping spur gears, screws loosening, etc. If you cant set mesh, and or figure out the workings of a tube of loctite then maybe RC isnt your thing. If you whack a board because of driver error and it breaks.. Learn to drive cleaner. Heck, Im tempted to buy one, and start posting race results with it just to shut a select few up.
Theres no excuse for stripping spur gears, screws loosening, etc. If you cant set mesh, and or figure out the workings of a tube of loctite then maybe RC isnt your thing. If you whack a board because of driver error and it breaks.. Learn to drive cleaner. Heck, Im tempted to buy one, and start posting race results with it just to shut a select few up.
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Before this gets to a flame war, I want to make it clear what I am looking for. I am an experienced racer (25 years) and race a MF2 finishing consistently in the top 3 or 4 in A Mains each time I race. That said, I have little or no experience with Rustler or Evaders, and my sister wants me to get my nephew into racing, or at least some time on the track for around $200. My first thoughts were the Evader because you can get it RTR for about $130 Then I was looking at the Rustler and it can be bought for about $150.
He is a beginner (9 years old)
Full Bearings would be nice
Tires do not matter (this will be ran at an indoor carpet track, and stock tires will not be used)
Motor has little to do with decision (again, beginner, and will be running stock once he works his way out of beginner class)
Chassis tuneability will be important (toe, camber, ride height, shock pre-load etc)
Be nice to have a decent steering servo out of the box
Parts are not an issue, LHS carries both
HE will be using some of my old batteries to get him started, and my pit box for tools and other needs. (ie if he is there, I will be too)
Please, if you are going to state one or the other, list why? I dont want to get into "I own this, and its super duper radically awesome and you should too!" They dont want to spend $500 here because they need to know that he is going to enjoy racing on a track and not just bashing which is why he will not be running a Losi or Associated, that will come later. If you have a valid suggestion for another stadium truck, please list it!
Before this gets to a flame war, I want to make it clear what I am looking for. I am an experienced racer (25 years) and race a MF2 finishing consistently in the top 3 or 4 in A Mains each time I race. That said, I have little or no experience with Rustler or Evaders, and my sister wants me to get my nephew into racing, or at least some time on the track for around $200. My first thoughts were the Evader because you can get it RTR for about $130 Then I was looking at the Rustler and it can be bought for about $150.
He is a beginner (9 years old)
Full Bearings would be nice
Tires do not matter (this will be ran at an indoor carpet track, and stock tires will not be used)
Motor has little to do with decision (again, beginner, and will be running stock once he works his way out of beginner class)
Chassis tuneability will be important (toe, camber, ride height, shock pre-load etc)
Be nice to have a decent steering servo out of the box
Parts are not an issue, LHS carries both
HE will be using some of my old batteries to get him started, and my pit box for tools and other needs. (ie if he is there, I will be too)
Please, if you are going to state one or the other, list why? I dont want to get into "I own this, and its super duper radically awesome and you should too!" They dont want to spend $500 here because they need to know that he is going to enjoy racing on a track and not just bashing which is why he will not be running a Losi or Associated, that will come later. If you have a valid suggestion for another stadium truck, please list it!
Here are a few examples;
The duratrax shocks look nice because they are aluminum, but they leak like crazy. ( the Traxxas ones don't leak ) The Evader ST we had had a horrible ball diff, that constantly came unadjusted and eventually melted the diff gear. ( never had a single problem with a traxxas tranny) Those are just a few things from my own personal experiences.
I myself probably won't be buying any more Duratrax stuff, that's just my opinion. I have, however purchased 2 Traxxas Slash trucks over the summer and those have been awesome.
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I have two BX's and a Rustler. Evader runs circles around the rustler. I've had parts break on both. Overall I think the Evader is better, faster truck, but somewhat more fragile. My Losi XXXT breaks easily as well when I bash.... The faster, the nimbler, the more they break.
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BAH, idk what you ppl are doing to these things but i've never had my diff loosen up on my evader, only on my B4, if you replace the locknut once a year, which is no big deal and you should be in ball diffs every 6 mo at least anyways, the shocks, replaced the seals no issues since, and did you guys ever think of using locktite on metal to metal contacts, idk about you, but thats one of my 10 commandments and its not only nitro's that need it...
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the fact is duretraxx suck .s and the durebility propblems of the evader will always be. not because peopel are careless or do not know how to maintain them hell i have a 25 year old shumahcher boss cat that runs as good as the day i got it , and its been bashed into oblivion , there will always be peopel for and against , but i know a rubbish model when i see one and iam afraid to say the duretraxx evader is it . buy at your perol evader === [:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(]
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I see it this way.. It is a track car, NOT a basher. I am not the least bit worried about it lasting. If he gets 6 months out of it to learn on GREAT, it was $120 well spent. Did I mention it was $120? Itll see 2 ft of air 99% of the time with MAYBE a bigger 3' jump thrown in every now and then. You buy a cheap car, you get a cheap car. Do I think itll out perform my Losi's.. Heck now. Do I think itll be fine to learn on? For $120, abso-freekin-lutley! If he has nothing but problems for 6 months, Ill be sure to post here what the issues AND FIXES are.
Theres no excuse for stripping spur gears, screws loosening, etc. If you cant set mesh, and or figure out the workings of a tube of loctite then maybe RC isnt your thing. If you whack a board because of driver error and it breaks.. Learn to drive cleaner. Heck, Im tempted to buy one, and start posting race results with it just to shut a select few up.
I see it this way.. It is a track car, NOT a basher. I am not the least bit worried about it lasting. If he gets 6 months out of it to learn on GREAT, it was $120 well spent. Did I mention it was $120? Itll see 2 ft of air 99% of the time with MAYBE a bigger 3' jump thrown in every now and then. You buy a cheap car, you get a cheap car. Do I think itll out perform my Losi's.. Heck now. Do I think itll be fine to learn on? For $120, abso-freekin-lutley! If he has nothing but problems for 6 months, Ill be sure to post here what the issues AND FIXES are.
Theres no excuse for stripping spur gears, screws loosening, etc. If you cant set mesh, and or figure out the workings of a tube of loctite then maybe RC isnt your thing. If you whack a board because of driver error and it breaks.. Learn to drive cleaner. Heck, Im tempted to buy one, and start posting race results with it just to shut a select few up.
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Hey, i pretty much have the same question as ken. i found out not long ago that there is a track not that far away from my house. I would like to occasionaly race there, but with the rc car i have (monster truck) would not be able to race. There are quite a lot of evaders racing at that track, so the evader would probably be better for racing, but i would probably be doing more bashing then racing so do you guys thing the rustler would be best for me, or do you suggest anything else??
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If he is just racing, I'd go with the Evader. Quite honestly, and I'm sure people will back me up on this, he won't really have a whole lot of fun on the track with a rustler.