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Old 02-04-2009, 02:29 PM
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I have a slash that has the velineon brushless conversion. I cant get the motor to quit cogging. Can a brushless motor go bad? It had the 22 tooth pinion with a 90tooth spur. I tried putting a 17tooth pinion on it but that only helped a little. I pretty much have to push the truck to get it going. It does this with my venom 4200 6 cell pack which is a known good pack. I have a 3 cell lipo that I tried on it which it still cogged for a second or two at 11.1 volts. I had a rustler vxl and never had these problems. Any suggestions?
Old 02-04-2009, 02:39 PM
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Default RE: problems with slash with velineon brushless

cogging is normal for brushless sensorless...so, just hit hard the gas...
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Default RE: problems with slash with velineon brushless


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cogging is normal for brushless sensorless...so, just hit hard the gas...

Cogging occurs when you are using the incorrect gearing and is not a normal thing that happens with sensorless setups.


Try dropping down to a 16t or 15t pinion and you shouldn't have any more cogging problems.
Old 02-04-2009, 03:43 PM
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I just charged up a new 7 cell venom 4200 pack and went to the 17tooth pinion and it works alot better now, not nearly as fast as the rusler vxl I had though.
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I have a slash that has the velineon brushless conversion. I cant get the motor to quit cogging. Can a brushless motor go bad? It had the 22 tooth pinion with a 90tooth spur. I tried putting a 17tooth pinion on it but that only helped a little. I pretty much have to push the truck to get it going. It does this with my venom 4200 6 cell pack which is a known good pack. I have a 3 cell lipo that I tried on it which it still cogged for a second or two at 11.1 volts. I had a rustler vxl and never had these problems. Any suggestions?
Gear mesh? Check for a smooth tranny, turn the spur gear yourself and make sure it turns easily. Make sure the spur isn't deformed turn it a full 360. Hopefully you have a good connector on your battery (not using a converter). Try pulling out all the bullet plugs, ensuring there is no debris, etc., the reconnect everything and try again.
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not nearly as fast as the rusler vxl I had though.
I have noticed the same with stock pinion and vxl, its performance is not very impressive. I liked the rustler vxl much better than slash vxl for performance and slash for scale look. So i bought a rustler vxl and slash stock yesterday, planning on keeping the slash stock.

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not nearly as fast as the rusler vxl I had though.
I have noticed the same with stock pinion and vxl, its performance is not very impressive. I liked the rustler vxl much better than slash vxl for performance and slash for scale look. So i bought a rustler vxl and slash stock yesterday, planning on keeping the slash stock.

Thanks
2 trucks at once?? geez, wanna buy me a truck haha. It all depends on how you gear the slash and bigger tires with better traction help. I run mine on 3s so it is pretty zippy. Gets around fine. Goes 50+ onroad.
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Default RE: problems with slash with velineon brushless

Bought Rustler Vxl for myself and slash for my 6 year old
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Default RE: problems with slash with velineon brushless

My guess is because your trying to use venom on a brushless system.. Venoms are not proven batteries. LOL
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My guess is because your trying to use venom on a brushless system.. Venoms are not proven batteries. LOL

I run Venom 3300's on a Mamba Max 5700 and Mamba Max 4600 setups in my kids' Pedes without any problems.
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Default RE: problems with slash with velineon brushless

I have the slash with Velineon running 23/86 gearing and never ever had the slighest problme with cogging. I use 2s batteries and it runs beautifully. As t9dragon said play with the geering more.
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Default RE: problems with slash with velineon brushless

Uh, I run 29/76 gearing in mine, and don't have any more cogging than I would expect.

90% sure it's the batteries or motor itself. Or it's just you being a worry wart, as has been mentioned all sensorless motors will cog a bit.
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Default RE: problems with slash with velineon brushless

What would the difference be betweem 29/76 and 23/86?
Old 02-05-2009, 04:24 AM
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Default RE: problems with slash with velineon brushless

About 20mph on the top end It's speed run gearing, if you try to run the truck as a basher with that gearing you will fry something. However, I still don't have a problem with cogging so that points to it being something else on his truck.
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Default RE: problems with slash with velineon brushless

Good to know... thanks for the explanation.
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Default RE: problems with slash with velineon brushless

I have that system too but when ever i turn mine on everything works well but the throttle. In fact i have no throttle. my esc just sits there staying green. I am running lipo and i do have it on lipo cut off. Does anyone know what is wrong?
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Default RE: problems with slash with velineon brushless

The VXL cogs. You might have bad batteries.
Old 03-03-2011, 04:18 PM
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Default RE: problems with slash with velineon brushless

sorry for my stupidity but what is cogging. And i know for a fact that my batteries are fine


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