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Hey everyone. I have a HW ezrun 60a esc, HW Ezrun 4000kv 540 motor, Flysky 2.4ghz radio system and an Ace RC S2008 servo and I am looking for recommendations as what I should put them in. I am looking for something durable and low maintence so I can drive in small places and that won't be a hassle to lug around.

I want to spend $200 maximum to finish it off.

I can get a tamiya df02 kit for $135, any other ideas?<br type="_moz" />

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I'd try to stretch to one of these two if I were you...

Losi 22T - http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...cing-Truck-Kit
AE T4.1 - http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-T41-Truck-Kit

Best in their class and ideal for the electronics you have. Particularly the Losi 22T, with its alloy chassis and clever design (plus the option to run saddle or stick packs, mid or rear motor), is a really special car. I have the buggy version and its smooth as butter and really tough.

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nexx 10SC (dunno what hong nor calls in in Australia) that would work in. I have that combo in a crt.5, and one I modified into a 1/8th buggy and it works fine in it.

DF-02 I know can hold up to the 35A setup not sure if the extra force of the 60A would royally trash its drive chain. Could always get a 35A motor the 10t HW is pretty decent.

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I wouldn't put a 540 in a SC.

With a 540 you are basically limited to 1/10th rear wheel drive. Only the very lightest 1/10th 4wd buggies/SCs will run satisfactorily for bashing purposes on a 540. NExt people are gonna tell me that sanctioned 4wd buggy racing is with a 540, and I know that, but then the heats are 5-7 mins. Now that we have batteries that can easily run for half an hour when bashing, it is a good idea to upsize any 4wd car to a 550.

The OFNA CRT .5 is a great suggestion and easily within budget with conversion.

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Well the SCRT10/nexx 10SC IS the same thing as the CRT.5 just a lil longer and bigger wheels. I slapped my one CRT.5's parts on a SCRT10 chassis with 1/8th buggy tires I had and it runs fine with a 60A setup on I on a 12t pinion(it does get warm a 11tor10t would be better though).

Now a slash 4X4 or some of the others I would agree that would roast the 60A setup (I tried it mine was over 150 after 4 mins on cement only)

as for the crt conversion yes it would, but finding them after they were officially discontinued(in the US at least) can be kind of hard

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OP, do you want a truck...buggy....2wd or 4wd?

You could buy a ECX torment. Its a 2wd SCT thats pretty tough and handles well.

Its less than $200 RTR. By the time you sell the spektrum radio/rx...waterproof brushed ESC and motor and the included battery you will have only paid $100 or so for it.

I have a torment and its a good truck, I like how it handles and its tough. Some traxxas parts are compatible as well.

The DF-02 is a good chassis for a mild brushless setup. I had one and it was a good buggy. I sold it cause I like models with more ground clearance.

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I actually don't mind if its a buugy or truck at all. 4wd is nicer but I don't want any heat issues, I would like to run this RC for a 30 minutes straight if I can so it has to be light......

I Had a DF02 last year, it was a decent buggy though I do remember I had a couple of breakages with the shock towers, bulkheads and even the chassis. Lipo's were hard to fit too. I never had an issue with the drivetrain.

I will research everything suggested and looking for prices now................

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The TLR 22 looks so cool :) However, since I am saving up for a RC8.2e Factory Team I don't think its a good idea to spend $350 on the tlr 22 if I'm not going to race it<div>
</div><div>I found a new HPI E-firestorm for $210 without electronics, anyone know if this is a good basher platform?</div><div>
</div><div>The ECX circut is $200 rtr at my lhs, but its the am version</div><div>
</div><div>The DF02 still looks like a decent option</div><div>
</div><div>Too many choices [&amp;:]</div><div>
</div><div>I will do more research to I can cross out some of the options above</div>

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well the chassis if you do the $5 mod that fixes that from most hits that won't snap the chassis itself.

shock towers if you get the aluminum ones get a 2-3mm piece of T5 aluminum, cut a copy out and sandwich the mount point for the towers between it and that pretty much remedies that break point as the towers aren't pushing backwards at one point alone putting stress on it. That is assuming you have an angle grinder or similar tool to cut it out, as I made mine purely with a cheap angle grinder, and hand drill. Another member which I got the idea from when I made mine used carbon fiber to brace his.

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Thanks for the tips. For the chassis, I saw this thread where this guy cut holes in the chassis so the forks that hold the suspension arms go into them and get more support. I have a rotary tool with a diamond cutting wheel and I also have one of those big angle grinder things to get the basic shape. What grit sand paper will make the end product of the shock tower fix look nice and neat? 1000? 2000?

Its kind of between the e-firestorm and the df02 now...
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metal finishing is not my forte as I left it pretty rough I just used a file to get it even and make it not sharp, as I care more for functionality than looks when I make stuff. Plus the front shock towers not even really seen cause the shocks, and body cover 98% of what I made up :D BTW that fix is only for the front as the rear you can't sandwich due to how its made (but its also never gave me an issue)

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Thanks Syco, I have only broke a rear tower once and I broke the front one like 4 time till I put the aluminium one so i am not too worried about the rear.

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yea out of the 2 DF-02's I own I only broke one rear(on the bootlegged one I bought), and that was just the shock mount spacer for the shock tower snapped off which I just put a long screw through and it worked fine since.

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The 22 is 250, not 350. Jus saying. For the extra 90 bucks over the df02, you are getting a LOT more. You trusted me on the TTR, trust me on this one too. ;)

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Ahh! I stand corrected then, Thanks for clearing that up.
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The tlr 22 kit is $299 at my lhs and I can add an additional $50 for tires for a pinion. I also found out that the version at my lhs has metric hardware, hooray! I don't need a new screw driver set.

I am going to do more research as so far I am really liking what I am seeing, aluminium chassis, very adjustable and very high quality

How tough is the drivetrain? Can it handle 4000kv on 2s and the occasion 3s? How much ground clearance? I plan on driving on pavement, short grass and hard packed dirt, general light bashing.
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A lot of people swap out the supplied ball diff which is admittedly very difficult to break in properly, for a regular gear diff. this is very cheaply accomplished. As a rule though, the drivetrain is smooth as silk.

You will never want to run 3s. You wouldn't be able to anyway (extremely limited space in the chassis, the car is half the width of its competitors), but believe me you won't need to. It'll handle anything on 2s and ask for more.

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Don't think u will have any problems with the drivetrain, they are tuff as nails. Think of the torque some of the racers put down on high traction tracks.... Losi make some of the best Rc cars out, and there warranty is awesome in Australia.

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That Losi 22 looks pretty sweet.  For bashing, especially off-road, I think a stadium truck is the best. IMHO. 

Foxy, what gear diff is drop-in compatible for the 22?

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While the tlr 22 looks the most awesome of them all, I am still sceptical that it will make a great basher chassis. It doesn't have metal gears, tight fit for electronics, needs a gear diff........I don't know I need to think about it more otherwise I will get a e-firestorm instead.

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hummm, ive been doing a bit of looking around, yep seems u are right... from what im reading its not really a bash truck, and they dont like big power setups

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Don't get me wrong, the tlr 22 is so awesome, I love the aluminium chassis, the layout, the neat steering rack design but I don't think I feel comfortable taking it to a beach or jumping it, not that it can't handle it but I plan on treating this next car pretty crappily.<div></div><div>If i start racing, I think I have decided what I will get. TLR 22 kit with nice electronics :)</div>

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One of my mates is selling a bandit with a ezrun combo... Check out my facebook group

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phmaximus, I will check it out now<div></div><div>I am leaning towards the e-firestorm, I heard only good things about it.</div>

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One of he guys is selling a team associated sc18 roller for $50...

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Have u had a look on gumtree and eBay? U might find a absolute bargain

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What about these? Both in Sydney

$150
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/sydne...ggy/1006549064

$100
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/ingle...ggy/1011893965

U could get them both for the price of the Losi 22

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thanks phmaximus, I don't know how I missed them cause I searched ebay and gumtree for stuff and I didn't find anything interesting.

That thunder tiger xxb caught my eye since I can find parts for it in Australia and its rtr and has the same receiver as my ttr mt4 radio so I can bind them both to the same radio.......

Looks like a much better deal than a df02 kit, and this is brushless too :) :) :)

I am going to read more on this buggy and if it looks good, I am going to get it

Thanks again for your help
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Sweet as, good luck man

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Most 2 wd cars can't fit a 550 and some 4wd cars/buggies will be super tight plus uncontrollable with most 550 motors. They were designed for 4wd short course vehicles that are heavier and can handle the power. For bashing get a good high kv 540 for 1/10 buggies and can do that on a budget

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Firstly, I never said to put 550s in 2wd cars. Secondly, most 2wd cars can take a 550, there is not usually a limit on can length in a rear motor, rwd car. Again though, 550s in 2wd is pointless.

What were designed for 4wd short course? 550 motors? I think not, they've been around since long before short course. They were popularized by short course, sure.

For bashing a 1/10th 4wd, don't get a high kv 540, get a low kv 540 4 pole, or a 550.

Anyway, I think we're getting away from the point, which is that he already has a 540 motor he wants to use. Therefore, he is limited to either touring cars, 2wd off road or very lightweight 4wd off road.

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It wasn't meant for you to take to heart these motors have been tried in 2wd and were to tight for the gearing that needed to be ran. We all understand what you are saying and I didn't say you said to put into a 2wd. Just stated they should not be put into them. I've had a pro 4 in my sct 2wd track only truck it was overkill but fun if you could get it to hook up. I won a few races with it and went back to 540 6.5t and still a beast just more usable power. Basically we both are trying to say should only put in a motor that somone will be able to use the power and still keep money in the pocket. I do apologize if I came off sounding like you were telling people the oposite. As long as we are all having fun with this hobby/sport that's the main point.

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Sorry I misunderstood, usually when quoting it means you are directly referring to the quote.

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lol, No comment

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Back on topic...I hear good things about the firestorm too, but at the end of the day, it's HPI, who recently, have completely lost the plot as a company in my opinion. Bad products, bad product positioning, exhorbitant pricing, acquiring popular brands and doing NOTHING with them, the list goes on...their product and market research staff need firing all at once.

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I agree with you that HPI has gone nuts lately, have you seen what motor they are putting in the new brushless blitz?

I wouldn't get any of their new offerings, but the HPI E-firestorm is an older design and in my opinion one of the vehicles they have done right. It share parts with blitz so parts support is good

The Losi 22 is stuck in my head, so pretty, I will have to get it and put nice electronics in it after I beat the crap out of the e-firestorm.

At least I will get to know if I like 2wd cars before I spend $450 on the losi 22 (that price is for the kit + my choice of electronics, not the rtr)
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yup agree
old HPI models good

new ones are mostly rubbish

Then there is the we screw the US over on most new RC's for at least a year thing that irks me

and then getting hoboa distribution contract, and only selling 3(2 of which are pretty much the same thing) out of all the RC's they make...

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I think HPI thinks that this is the toy grade market where someone will see a cool looking car in a nice box and buy it without research or anything.