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Old 04-29-2008, 01:48 PM
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whats a silver can?
Old 04-29-2008, 04:03 PM
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whats a silver can?
The Johnson or Mabuchi 540 motor that comes standard on many kits. (especially Tamiya kits)
Old 04-29-2008, 06:29 PM
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Does your receiver have a BEC? If not, that battery will most likely fry your servo. 8.4 `volts is a lot for the servo to handle (meant to be used at 4.8-6v).
Old 04-30-2008, 01:34 AM
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Isn't the Mabuchi a higher torque silvercan?

I received one of those with my semi & tlt-1.
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Isn't the Mabuchi a higher torque silvercan?

I received one of those with my semi & tlt-1.

From my understanding they're pretty much the same.
Old 04-30-2008, 01:30 PM
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Found this on the web bit of info

Mabuchi make (and made) many, many different versions of the 540 motor. Unfortunately since it is actually an industrial fractional hp dc motor, they are primarily classified by their output and consumption rather than the winds, which RC racers are more familiar with.

The coding schema used by Mabuchi is quite simple, and there are basically 3 types of motor that look very similar externally, and only their code number can identify them:

The RS-540SH series is the one typically used in RC car kits and this comes in 3 versions, the 5045, 8023 and the 6527. Where the first 2 digits describe the wire diameter: 50 = .50mm etc and the last 2 digits the number or turns: 27 = 27T etc
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Nice find there Tiger...
I have heard that there were some 23 or even 22T silvercans around.
This would explain why the HBX Lancers are quicker then their Buggy rivals..
The onroad cars are supposed to get a 25.000rpm motor and the Buggy's with an 18.000rpm motor
(I think they called the Motor an RS540 22K)


Also Found this!
http://www.mabuchi-motor.co.jp/cgi-b..._ID=rs_540rhsh
Old 05-01-2008, 03:06 PM
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The onroad cars are supposed to get a 25.000rpm motor
[X(] Damn thats impressive rpms indeed my orion method 17 turn is only rated at 26,500rpm!!!

...Got to admit i miss those really loooonnnnnggg run times with the silver cans

May have to dust one off for a drift sess this weekend [sm=thumbup.gif]
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ORIGINAL: drevil


ORIGINAL: sunco1

whats a silver can?
The Johnson or Mabuchi 540 motor that comes standard on many kits. (especially Tamiya kits)

o thanks. now i know what you guys are talking about
Old 05-24-2008, 09:07 PM
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do you guys think i could use the silvercan on a 14.4v emaxx
Old 05-24-2008, 09:34 PM
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in short... no... I dont think the Armatures would be up to those sorts of pressures..
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it worked and the pinions are still on
Old 05-25-2008, 10:36 AM
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so far it still works on 15.6v
Old 05-26-2008, 01:24 AM
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they're freakin hairdryer motors >.> they offend me ]'=
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were u get that from
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Well its true, Johnson 540 motors have been used in Every thing from Hair Dryers to cordless drills..
but that just go's to show how versatile they are...
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F103 has finally arrived but the foams I have won't go on as the F103 wheels are mounted differently [] Should be able to do a high-speed run in a few days time

Matt
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ORIGINAL: magnat

Nice find there Tiger...
I have heard that there were some 23 or even 22T silvercans around.
This would explain why the HBX Lancers are quicker then their Buggy rivals..
The onroad cars are supposed to get a 25.000rpm motor and the Buggy's with an 18.000rpm motor
(I think they called the Motor an RS540 22K)


Also Found this!
http://www.mabuchi-motor.co.jp/cgi-b..._ID=rs_540rhsh
Today's mabuchi 540 motors are probarly not common in the tamiya kits...(well, 20 years from now maybe) as they bought in 10's and 10 000's of them if not millions, and still using the 540 from 80's in their today's models. Just for fun, i emailed mabuchi and asked what kinda motors my super clod buster had and this is the answer:

Dear sir, Thank you for your email. TD056729 is our production lot number.This number is including the meaning of production place (which factory)and production date. From this number, we can trace the motor model is our "RS540SH-6527",We attache the performance data sheet for this model.We hope that this data can help you. Sincerely, Y.YoshibaMABUCHI MOTOR CO., LTD. (See attached file: RS-540SH-6527.pdf)
here is the data from that pdf file, who was dated may 20 1986... (at 7.2v)

13,746 rpm at best efficiency
286 g-cm torque at 13,746 rpm
no load rpm: 15,800 rpm
stall current draw 55 amps
current 8.19 amps at max eff
current 1.2 amps at no load
Output power 40.38 watts


But today's 540 6527 has this data (according to performance chart simulation from website) at 7.2v:

14,710 rpm at best efficiency
268 g-cm torque at 14,710 rpm
no load rpm: 17,550 rpm
stall current draw 42.8 amps
current 8.27 amps at max eff
current 1.6 amps at no load
Output power 40.4 watts

some differences there! old tread sorry, but i did find it interesting!
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i dont understand why they use silvercans for racing any way, just use a GT tuned motor, Super St6ock RZ or something with at least some noticeable power as i hate it when u put fullm pedal and you can still turn without crashing or spinning, it just sucks the skills off drivers.
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ORIGINAL: LolFrank

they're freakin hairdryer motors >.> they offend me ]'=
Dumb remark of the day winner is.....


LolFrank!
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i dont understand why they use silvercans for racing any way, just use a GT tuned motor, Super St6ock RZ or something with at least some noticeable power as i hate it when u put fullm pedal and you can still turn without crashing or spinning, it just sucks the skills off drivers.
You definitely never raced with a silvercan have you? If I take any of my touring cars with a silvercan and press full throttle and turn, it will spin out in a heartbeat.

And F1 style racing silvercan is best. Anything more is super hard to control, and at my local track everyone using hotter motors have slower laptimes because it's a handful.
Old 04-07-2010, 12:41 AM
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well i have but i wasn't very impressed with the speed, theres know exciment if it isn't possible to spin out or damage your car in the middle of a race or speed run. ive used a ezrun 9t and i can turn at 3 quarter speed, slow down to half throttle than power out at full blast without spinning but it takes lots of practice and i hasve lots of mistakes getting used to the track but once u know the line it easier
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what car are using and do u have a lock diff or one way at the front. Also do u use ball diffs at back, thanks


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