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Old 01-08-2006, 04:58 PM
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Info and pricing is supposed to be out "EARLY 06". No specs that I could find yet.
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thats FGs belt drive they recalled[] belt drives slip when they get wet

only conversion kit for a FG vehicle is this one but its chain drive
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Old 01-08-2006, 06:59 PM
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I saw that upgrade too. Hmm, maybe someone else can keep us updated.
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ORIGINAL: hellya

thats FGs belt drive they recalled[] belt drives slip when they get wet

only conversion kit for a FG vehicle is this one but its chain drive

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Old 01-08-2006, 07:41 PM
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no recall, they have not put a production kit out yet.
Old 01-08-2006, 08:02 PM
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your forgetting that FG said it would be done but early 2004 so dont get excited
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this shaft design has been around for a year or so but its not FG's
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Old 01-08-2006, 10:12 PM
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shaft is so more efficient, but I think i'll stick with the 2wd wonders. 4wd would be nice for wide turns and short tracks. BUT, they would have to run in a class of their own... there aren't many people racing the big boys as it is, unless they live in my area, you guys luck out. 1/5 is so big here its unbelieveable. Its why I am getting OUT of nitro
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Yeah Kemo.........we have to see you out at the track this year.
Old 01-09-2006, 12:11 AM
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Hell yeah you will. I am tryin to come up with a good engine setup... stock is not how i drive . Which driver were you? I know Frederik, mikey, andrew, mike, there is one guy i cant put a name to the face. BUT, you can hear his voice on some of the hideaway demo movies. He says "this is what a 1/10th scale looks like on this track", that oval where the sprint car is flyin around the track... same one u guys do the long F1 runs.

I SHOULD have the buggy BY march. I'll be more than ready.
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Hellya,

Is this shaft drive mod a kit, or was it a one-off? I'd really prefer a shaft drive upgrade, even if it meant a lot of changes.

Cheers,

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Engine placed as on the pics will tilt the car.
It won't work this way.
I agree shaft drive is deffinately the best option to go with but the engine has to be placed as it is normally if you want to control the car.
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Hmmm, but the engine is tilted, so I'd imagine that the centre of gravity would be acceptable? Looking at my old MP6, the engine in that was off centre too, and that was a pretty decent buggy.

Regardless, I'm looking for a shaft drive 4WD kit .. while it may be easier to just buy an MCD, I like the FG stuff, and I'd really like to keep it!

Is anyone out there of a shaft drive adaption kit?

Cheers

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No kits available in shaft drive for FGs ...........only belts and chains .. you want a shaftdrive buggy get the MCD race runner
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Yeah, found the race runner today. Looks like $1350 without engine...tough to justify, but not impossible.
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Those MCD's look REALLY nice!
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Has anyone tried the Kamitiro €375 conversion kit for the Marder yet?
http://www.kamitiro.de

If it is god, then I am considering getting a Marder bottom for my Leo.
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ORIGINAL: hywel

Hmmm, but the engine is tilted, so I'd imagine that the centre of gravity would be acceptable? Looking at my old MP6, the engine in that was off centre too, and that was a pretty decent buggy.

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It is not the off-centre that will bother.
The torque of the motor will rotate the car, that is the problem.
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Wow, that Kamitiro kit looks pretty decent.
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It is not the off-centre that will bother.
The torque of the motor will rotate the car, that is the problem.
That could be solved, by a center diff, with a similar rotating mass, just rotating the other way...
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Has anyone tried the Kamitiro €375 conversion kit for the Marder yet?
http://www.kamitiro.de
There was another thread about this kit a while back, but I haven't heard anything about the 4wd conversion in a while.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_41...amitiro/tm.htm

I think alot of interest dropped off when people realized the 375 euro kit, did not include alot of the parts required to finish the vehicle. Tack on the price of another Diff, diff gear, upper suspension arms, etc, and suddenly the conversion is gonna be over $600.

I like the look of the kit, but for the price (and the freaky lack of belt tensioning), I think I'll be saving my pennies for a MCD.
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It is not the off-centre that will bother.
The torque of the motor will rotate the car, that is the problem.
That could be solved, by a center diff, with a similar rotating mass, just rotating the other way...
Then "R' (distance axis - rotating mass) has to be the same as well; and rotating at the same speed.
As you state "rotate in opposite direction" so you need a gearwheel. Then you need to compensate that weight of the gearwheel again etc.

Theory nice, but practically impossible. The 2-stroke engine has quite a huge gyro effect which makes the car impossible to control well.
Just the engine straight in the car as usual and go from there.
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Could the stability created by the gyroscopic effect of the rotating tires not help to stabilize the motion created by the motor? I'd think esspecially with larger tires, that it may work.

I realize a 26cc motor has far more "kick" to it then a nitro engine, but 1/10-1/7 scale vehicles have used a mounting method like this for years with minimal negative gyroscopic effect.

Just a thought.....

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