jtnktz

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Well I have a Baja on it's way. What break in procedure should I be doing? What oil-fuel ratio should I do for break in process? I will be using Klotz Techniplate Oil...

badz

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there is no break in required, mix is 25:1

jtnktz

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Thats what I thought but foxy said otherwise....

badz

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A lot of people break these in but all they are doing is wasting time. A piston ring seats in 2-3 seconds after startup, these don't have tapered pistons like nitro's that take longer to seat and need heat cycling to seat the piston and ring better. The piston and ring wears the same amount whether you spent 5 tanks running it easy or 5 tanks running it hard, doesn't matter, it's all in the mix, run a poor mix it'll wear quicker, run a good mix it'll wear slower. Keep dirt out the carb and run a good mix and you're set. Like a dirt bike ya run 24:1 a tank go to 32:1 a tank then right up to 50:1 or higher, these don't need such high ratios cause performance doesn't really change with the mix on these so ya stick to 25:1. The only thing I'd recommend is not really tuning much on the needles first tank, after that tune away, if it's stalling alot first tank tune out that condition, I'd also let it idle a minute or so before womping on it if it's cold out or at least run it lightly for few minutes.

wan6176

no need to break in... mix ratio is important not more not less

Foxy

ONE TANK or about half an hour runtime, just take it easy, don't baby it, but don't give it long WOT runs either, then on the second tank or toward the end of the first, tune and let her rip. This is what all the hobby shops and racers I have spoken to say.

As for rings and seating, that's not the only factor. (Real) cars have pistons and rings and they have to be run-in. It's not so much a question of necessity as a sensible precaution to let the oil work it's way round the system, all the parts bed in, etc. It's not a break in as such, it's just a good idea to take it easy on the first tank.

jtnktz

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Alright, so during the first couple tanks I should run it at 25:1. Then what ratio after that? I thought you don't change ratios as it was like nitro and their percentage (in a way).

Foxy

Always 25:1. Never change the ratio.

tizdaz

does no harm to take it easy for the at least the 1st tank... personally i ran mine in over 2 to 3 tanks only because i was used to doing it with nitros. Some say you need to change the piston ring after run-in etc! , again i havent & had no probs.

the 1st couple of tanks my MB did seems sluggish, but on the 3rd she was ready to rock!

wan6176

nvr change ratio but change the fuel 95 to 98 hmmm abit expensive fuel but burn n run smoooth correct foxy?lol

Foxy

I've heard there's little to no power gain from buying 98 or 100ron fuel, but I don't know for sure cos I haven't tried it.

wan6176

there is u can feel wen u drive the baja.if no difference den y are there all kind of petrol wif different grade?even my r1 using 95 n v power theres a different

Foxy

Whatever you say dude... Like I said I haven't tested it, but the gas is not designed to make a diffrence in 2-stroke single cylinder engines, it's designed to make a difference in 4 stroke multi cylinder engines with 100 times the displacement.

clubin

NO, there is no difference in power, all a higher octane does is lower your combustion chamber temperatures. Some people take placebos and feel better. LOL

wan6176

placebos hmm

wan6176

maybe coz in singapore is diferent i guess lol

clubin

Could be the alcohol? LOL Maybe the mix I don't know.

wan6176

still doing my research hehe lol

snoking16

so can u use regular car gas mixed at 25:1?

Bratch96

I feel that Shell gas runs better than Phillips 66 gas. So, if he says he can feel a difference, I believe him, but, there's no telling what the real reason for the quality difference is.

wan6176

well bro im living in singapore and we have 3 kind of petrol here not to say shell,esso or mobil.each petrol got their own price.we have 3 category for petrol that is 92,95 and 98.
the cheapest is 92 where seldom ppl here use except old car n bikes that are going to scrap.medium usage is 95.and the expensive one is 98.if i use 95 full tank on my r1 i can use til 220km.if i use 98 i can use till 260.And most of the time i run my bike above 12okm/h.thks bratch

nothinbetr2do

yes, that's what i use in mine and it runs great. just plan old regular gas mixed at 25:1. it's not even the high test gas, just the bottom grade

Leopard-racer

Just something to think about - Although running in isn't all that important, the first ring on a new engine doen't last as long as a replacement according to various engine tuners I've spoken to.

Mike