XRC - Steer Clear
09-29-2008, 01:17 PM
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Hi All
Sorry I dont post much on here, when I do it is usually in the Electric Heli section.
Recently though I bought an XRC R2 Buggy. I had read reviews (even on here) that they are not very good, but I was told the new R2 version was new and improved, so I spent £300 on one.
What a huge waste of money! [:@]
I really should have listened to everyone. I just want to warn people by sharing my experience of XRC and ******** who supplied it here in the UK. Maybe I was just unlucky, maybe all the bad reviews are true, but if this helps anyone else from wasting £300 (plus parts) then I'll be happy.
I have written a review about it (including emails with ********) here for anyone to read.
[link=http://www.steve-john.co.uk/escort-site/rc/xrc-review.htm]XRC Review[/link]
Thanks
Steve
P.S. Anyone want any spares for an XRC Buggy?
Sorry I dont post much on here, when I do it is usually in the Electric Heli section.
Recently though I bought an XRC R2 Buggy. I had read reviews (even on here) that they are not very good, but I was told the new R2 version was new and improved, so I spent £300 on one.
What a huge waste of money! [:@]
I really should have listened to everyone. I just want to warn people by sharing my experience of XRC and ******** who supplied it here in the UK. Maybe I was just unlucky, maybe all the bad reviews are true, but if this helps anyone else from wasting £300 (plus parts) then I'll be happy.
I have written a review about it (including emails with ********) here for anyone to read.
[link=http://www.steve-john.co.uk/escort-site/rc/xrc-review.htm]XRC Review[/link]
Thanks
Steve
P.S. Anyone want any spares for an XRC Buggy?
09-29-2008, 02:35 PM
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strange you say you had enough of it by October 2008 when its still September!
ANd as you say you are a Heli person, £300 is nothing to spend on large scale most people buy clones then upgrade to superior parts. You realy need to spend around £600 for a RTR largescale!
ANd never rely on the electrics you get on RTR even on some of the branded ones!
Guy
By reading your review i think you come out the worse they have basicly said what i said about it being a cheaper model, and they have been reasonable.
ANd as you say you are a Heli person, £300 is nothing to spend on large scale most people buy clones then upgrade to superior parts. You realy need to spend around £600 for a RTR largescale!
ANd never rely on the electrics you get on RTR even on some of the branded ones!
Guy
By reading your review i think you come out the worse they have basicly said what i said about it being a cheaper model, and they have been reasonable.
09-30-2008, 02:11 AM
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I've been more than happy with the level of service from ********,I talk to Mick all the time when I ring up for parts enquiries,I haven't got a XRC but do have the HBX VRX-2 Pro buggy and thats been the best buy of a nitro i've ever had.The only reason i'm responding is that Mick at ******** will do anything in his power and sometimes beyond,to help customers resolve problems and I personally have never had any issues with them in almost 2 yrs of dealing with them....
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I've been more than happy with the level of service from ********,I talk to Mick all the time when I ring up for parts enquiries,I haven't got a XRC but do have the HBX VRX-2 Pro buggy and thats been the best buy of a nitro i've ever had.The only reason i'm responding is that Mick at ******** will do anything in his power and sometimes beyond,to help customers resolve problems and I personally have never had any issues with them in almost 2 yrs of dealing with them....
I've been more than happy with the level of service from ********,I talk to Mick all the time when I ring up for parts enquiries,I haven't got a XRC but do have the HBX VRX-2 Pro buggy and thats been the best buy of a nitro i've ever had.The only reason i'm responding is that Mick at ******** will do anything in his power and sometimes beyond,to help customers resolve problems and I personally have never had any issues with them in almost 2 yrs of dealing with them....
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Keep this constructive guys or I'll lock it down.
Steve, I can only say that the reviews are all pretty much spot on, anyone buying an XRC or other low level (read; sub $600) car, should go into it with eyes wide open. For every satisfied customer, there are 5 dissatisfied lined up right behind em. The cars are cheap, and have potential, but need time and money thrown at them from the get go. Many claim that you can make them decent for about the same price you would have paid for an FG, but that begs the question why not get an FG in the first place...
Steve, I can only say that the reviews are all pretty much spot on, anyone buying an XRC or other low level (read; sub $600) car, should go into it with eyes wide open. For every satisfied customer, there are 5 dissatisfied lined up right behind em. The cars are cheap, and have potential, but need time and money thrown at them from the get go. Many claim that you can make them decent for about the same price you would have paid for an FG, but that begs the question why not get an FG in the first place...
10-02-2008, 12:11 AM
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Foxy that is constructive. Free exchange of information helping people make an informed decision....
All that said and done, I have an XRC on road car and it's still quite enjoyable. I bought it for a mere $299 without radio, so for less than $400 I was up and running with a decent entry level gasser.
There is absolutely no comparison to FG or other on-roads, but you can't get an FG on road for even twice that much.
10-02-2008, 12:46 AM
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if you have something negative to say it should be backed up with logic, not just stupidity.
I hope that wasn't aimed at me.
All I am doing is helping people not waste their money. I have proved this with facts. Simple as that.
If XRC sell their cars 'to only be any good after major upgrades' then this should be clearly stated in their adverts.
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10-02-2008, 01:31 AM
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In this case the seller should disclose all info. regarding the quality of the model. I notify our customers that the XRC is a large scale that is very low cost and the quality matches. If you buy it you won't feel bad if you throw it in the back of the garage, after a few uses. I have had no complaints yet!
Simply put, you pay for what you get!
In my opinion I think the model is not a very bad deal for the price.
Simply put, you pay for what you get!
In my opinion I think the model is not a very bad deal for the price.
10-02-2008, 01:54 AM
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It wasn't aimed at anyone, sorry if I did offend you. It was just a general comment about how discussions should be conducted here on RCU.
10-07-2008, 12:58 AM
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You may not allow 'Manufacturer Bashing', but people should know the truth and make up their own mind.
Since posting this both ******** and XRC are both completely ignoring me. So much for customer service and after sales support!!! [:@]
Obviously I have a problem with this car and all they want to do is ignore it. This isnt professional service.
If this model is sold with a view to only being good if you upgrade then the adverts need to be re-written to be truthful. I know of someone else who saved up to buy one of these and now regrets it too. He doesnt have the money to upgrade or repair it.
Absolute disgrace.
Steve
This taken from Trading Standards website....
Sale of Goods Act Quick Facts
Subject: Sale of Goods Act, Faulty Goods.
Relevant or Related Legislation: Sale of Goods Act 1979. Supply of Goods and Services Act 1982. Sale and Supply of Goods Act 1994. The Sale and Supply of Goods to Consumers Regulations 2002.
Key Facts:
• Wherever goods are bought they must "conform to contract". This means they must be as described, fit for purpose and of satisfactory quality (i.e. not inherently faulty at the time of sale).
• Goods are of satisfactory quality if they reach the standard that a reasonable person would regard as satisfactory, taking into account the price and any description.
• Aspects of quality include fitness for purpose, freedom from minor defects, appearance and finish, durability and safety.
Since posting this both ******** and XRC are both completely ignoring me. So much for customer service and after sales support!!! [:@]
Obviously I have a problem with this car and all they want to do is ignore it. This isnt professional service.
If this model is sold with a view to only being good if you upgrade then the adverts need to be re-written to be truthful. I know of someone else who saved up to buy one of these and now regrets it too. He doesnt have the money to upgrade or repair it.
Absolute disgrace.
Steve
This taken from Trading Standards website....
Sale of Goods Act Quick Facts
Subject: Sale of Goods Act, Faulty Goods.
Relevant or Related Legislation: Sale of Goods Act 1979. Supply of Goods and Services Act 1982. Sale and Supply of Goods Act 1994. The Sale and Supply of Goods to Consumers Regulations 2002.
Key Facts:
• Wherever goods are bought they must "conform to contract". This means they must be as described, fit for purpose and of satisfactory quality (i.e. not inherently faulty at the time of sale).
• Goods are of satisfactory quality if they reach the standard that a reasonable person would regard as satisfactory, taking into account the price and any description.
• Aspects of quality include fitness for purpose, freedom from minor defects, appearance and finish, durability and safety.
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No RC car you buy is indestructable, the lower the price then you'd have to expect a higher level of destructability. I have an FG baja which, due to excessive over exuberant driving
has had it's fair share of time on the bench awaiting better parts (from overseas, no dealers in Canada) to replace the stock ones that broke or weren't up to the job. Am I mad cos my FG breaks ...no! I'm actually surprised at the amount of abuse it takes when I get it all wrong. Barrel rolls with a nitro car are nothing but a large scale having more weight and hence energy is a different story, prangs often incur damage of some nature.
As for your comments on the radio...you did admit in your original post that you'd read the reviews here on RCU so you had to know that it needs replacing before you even start the thing for the first time.
I haven't had any manufacturing defects with my FG cos I bought what you could say is a BMW whilst you bought a Skoda (pre VW) so you would have to expect some inferior quality. yous gets what yous pay for.
I do find it a shame though that people just coming in to the hobby buy a clone or cheap model, expect too much from it and get turned off by their bad experience; though I think for the most part they hook more people, who then go on to better equipment, than they scare off.
Try sourcing hop up parts from the states or hong kong on ebay, spend a little cash, wait a couple of weeks and it'll transform your skoda into at least a focus.
No RC car you buy is indestructable, the lower the price then you'd have to expect a higher level of destructability. I have an FG baja which, due to excessive over exuberant driving
has had it's fair share of time on the bench awaiting better parts (from overseas, no dealers in Canada) to replace the stock ones that broke or weren't up to the job. Am I mad cos my FG breaks ...no! I'm actually surprised at the amount of abuse it takes when I get it all wrong. Barrel rolls with a nitro car are nothing but a large scale having more weight and hence energy is a different story, prangs often incur damage of some nature.As for your comments on the radio...you did admit in your original post that you'd read the reviews here on RCU so you had to know that it needs replacing before you even start the thing for the first time.
I haven't had any manufacturing defects with my FG cos I bought what you could say is a BMW whilst you bought a Skoda (pre VW) so you would have to expect some inferior quality. yous gets what yous pay for.
I do find it a shame though that people just coming in to the hobby buy a clone or cheap model, expect too much from it and get turned off by their bad experience; though I think for the most part they hook more people, who then go on to better equipment, than they scare off.
Try sourcing hop up parts from the states or hong kong on ebay, spend a little cash, wait a couple of weeks and it'll transform your skoda into at least a focus.
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I do find it a shame though that people just coming in to the hobby buy a clone or cheap model, expect too much from i
I do find it a shame though that people just coming in to the hobby buy a clone or cheap model, expect too much from i
I just expected it to work as advertised. I havent had it 'working' for more than 20 mins TOTAL. That sucks.
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I've had an XRC2 for a year and although it's had a few replacement parts, been about as reliable as my TNX. Pretty happy with it.
a bit harsh but maybe you have experienced more problems than me. One thing though, on your review your posting ********'s replys, not a surprise they are ingnoring you then! perhaps you would get a more favourable response if you didn't do that!
Just a thought...
a bit harsh but maybe you have experienced more problems than me. One thing though, on your review your posting ********'s replys, not a surprise they are ingnoring you then! perhaps you would get a more favourable response if you didn't do that!
Just a thought...
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omj624p
No RC car you buy is indestructable, the lower the price then you'd have to expect a higher level of destructability. I have an FG baja which, due to excessive over exuberant driving has had it's fair share of time on the bench awaiting better parts (from overseas, no dealers in Canada) to replace the stock ones that broke or weren't up to the job. Am I mad cos my FG breaks ...no! I'm actually surprised at the amount of abuse it takes when I get it all wrong. Barrel rolls with a nitro car are nothing but a large scale having more weight and hence energy is a different story, prangs often incur damage of some nature.
As for your comments on the radio...you did admit in your original post that you'd read the reviews here on RCU so you had to know that it needs replacing before you even start the thing for the first time.
I haven't had any manufacturing defects with my FG cos I bought what you could say is a BMW whilst you bought a Skoda (pre VW) so you would have to expect some inferior quality. yous gets what yous pay for.
I do find it a shame though that people just coming in to the hobby buy a clone or cheap model, expect too much from it and get turned off by their bad experience; though I think for the most part they hook more people, who then go on to better equipment, than they scare off.
Try sourcing hop up parts from the states or hong kong on ebay, spend a little cash, wait a couple of weeks and it'll transform your skoda into at least a focus.
omj624p
No RC car you buy is indestructable, the lower the price then you'd have to expect a higher level of destructability. I have an FG baja which, due to excessive over exuberant driving
has had it's fair share of time on the bench awaiting better parts (from overseas, no dealers in Canada) to replace the stock ones that broke or weren't up to the job. Am I mad cos my FG breaks ...no! I'm actually surprised at the amount of abuse it takes when I get it all wrong. Barrel rolls with a nitro car are nothing but a large scale having more weight and hence energy is a different story, prangs often incur damage of some nature.As for your comments on the radio...you did admit in your original post that you'd read the reviews here on RCU so you had to know that it needs replacing before you even start the thing for the first time.
I haven't had any manufacturing defects with my FG cos I bought what you could say is a BMW whilst you bought a Skoda (pre VW) so you would have to expect some inferior quality. yous gets what yous pay for.
I do find it a shame though that people just coming in to the hobby buy a clone or cheap model, expect too much from it and get turned off by their bad experience; though I think for the most part they hook more people, who then go on to better equipment, than they scare off.
Try sourcing hop up parts from the states or hong kong on ebay, spend a little cash, wait a couple of weeks and it'll transform your skoda into at least a focus.
Totally agree - I've had my XRC rc2 (skoda, lol, I actually had one of those) for a little over a year, maybe ran it three hours total. The only thing I hated was the leaky gas cap, and parts were impossible to find (a little better now) Even though it's a POS, it got me hooked. I have four others now (TQ MT, 2x FS, TQ baja) and nitros gathering dust. Everything I've bought has been a knock-off or a clone. I don't expect them to be at the level of a HPI, MCD, FG, they shouldn't be. The most I've paid is $325 (plus shipping), 1/3 the cost of a brand name. I gladly keep the other 2/3 (which I don't have) in exchange for knowing I have to strip the vehicle down to check everything, find some broken or low quality parts (or assembled wrong, or wrong screws used), and paitently wait for parts. It's a good way to learn about the vehicles, engine, etc.
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in all fairness..
The emails sent to you seem reasonable, every email they sent you did say to send it back to them & they will sort it FOC
I dont think you have a leg to stand on when it comes to trading standards.. simply because the company (********) said on numerous occasions to send it back to them so they can have a look @ it / fix it, which you never did? Trading Standards will ONLY get involved when you have tried everything in your power to sort a problem out but you get little/no response & the product does not match the advertising/description... Even then you will be lucky for Trading Standards to get involved. Did you contact the seller/shop & say you were not happy? Have you asked for a refund but been refused etc?
I know £300 is alot of money to most of us, but in Largscale RC it aint! ...buy cheap you get cheap.... unless you live in Amsterdam! \o/
Seems to me (& this is just my opinion btw!) ...you say you were new to largescale, you came on here seen lots of vids/pics of largescale bashing mostly of high end RC's (FG/HPI/MCD etc), you thought "i want one of them!" ...you check the price & think "w t f!" ...so you look around for a cheaper alternative (aka clone!) ..you spot the "FG/MCD/HPI wannbe" at 1/2 the price... you get it & drive it like you stole it, the wannbe falls to bits.... your unhappy! \o/
The emails sent to you seem reasonable, every email they sent you did say to send it back to them & they will sort it FOC
I dont think you have a leg to stand on when it comes to trading standards.. simply because the company (********) said on numerous occasions to send it back to them so they can have a look @ it / fix it, which you never did? Trading Standards will ONLY get involved when you have tried everything in your power to sort a problem out but you get little/no response & the product does not match the advertising/description... Even then you will be lucky for Trading Standards to get involved. Did you contact the seller/shop & say you were not happy? Have you asked for a refund but been refused etc?
I know £300 is alot of money to most of us, but in Largscale RC it aint! ...buy cheap you get cheap.... unless you live in Amsterdam! \o/
Seems to me (& this is just my opinion btw!) ...you say you were new to largescale, you came on here seen lots of vids/pics of largescale bashing mostly of high end RC's (FG/HPI/MCD etc), you thought "i want one of them!" ...you check the price & think "w t f!" ...so you look around for a cheaper alternative (aka clone!) ..you spot the "FG/MCD/HPI wannbe" at 1/2 the price... you get it & drive it like you stole it, the wannbe falls to bits.... your unhappy! \o/
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Just to clear a few bits, I sill bought the XRC buggy because I spoke to both ******** and XRC and they both assured me that the new R2 was being released and it fixed all the issues that I had been reading about. I even provided them links to the bad reports for reference. I was assured the new model would work. I had done my homework on this.
It's a bit like real cars. I cant afford a Mercedes, so I bought a Fiesta. Ok it is cheaper and not as good quality, but I still expect it to start in the mornings, I expect the brakes and steering to work and I expect it to pass the MOT's (which it does). If I bought a Fiesta and it wouldn't work then I would be just as annoyed.
I havent returned it to Notrotek as I have swapped many of their parts already with my own. All they will do it replace them back to the original substandard parts and blame me for messing with it. I'm not paying MY money to send this back to them, it's not worth it.
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It's a bit like real cars. I cant afford a Mercedes, so I bought a Fiesta. Ok it is cheaper and not as good quality, but I still expect it to start in the mornings, I expect the brakes and steering to work and I expect it to pass the MOT's (which it does). If I bought a Fiesta and it wouldn't work then I would be just as annoyed.
I havent returned it to Notrotek as I have swapped many of their parts already with my own. All they will do it replace them back to the original substandard parts and blame me for messing with it. I'm not paying MY money to send this back to them, it's not worth it.
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Ya, that would ruffle my feathers a bit too. Alas, my XRC has (most likely) had it's last run (yup, still runs fine, only replaced a servo) Until I wore out a couple parts on my other 1/5 scales, 3-4 weeks for the parts to come in (some bearings and axel extenders) Sadly for the XRC the bearings are the same size, out they come. Don't think I'll need the extenters, axels from the xrc will fit(i hope) my FHMT clone. Plus the axel blocks are bigger and have the notches to hold disk brakes. I think it extends it 6mm or so.
Sorry you went in with your "eyes wide open" (did research, etc.) only to have someone poke you in the eye
Sorry you went in with your "eyes wide open" (did research, etc.) only to have someone poke you in the eye
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Just to clear a few bits, I sill bought the XRC buggy because I spoke to both ******** and XRC and they both assured me that the new R2 was being released and it fixed all the issues that I had been reading about. I even provided them links to the bad reports for reference. I was assured the new model would work. I had done my homework on this.
It's a bit like real cars. I cant afford a Mercedes, so I bought a Fiesta. Ok it is cheaper and not as good quality, but I still expect it to start in the mornings, I expect the brakes and steering to work and I expect it to pass the MOT's (which it does). If I bought a Fiesta and it wouldn't work then I would be just as annoyed.
I havent returned it to Notrotek as I have swapped many of their parts already with my own. All they will do it replace them back to the original substandard parts and blame me for messing with it. I'm not paying MY money to send this back to them, it's not worth it.
Steve
Just to clear a few bits, I sill bought the XRC buggy because I spoke to both ******** and XRC and they both assured me that the new R2 was being released and it fixed all the issues that I had been reading about. I even provided them links to the bad reports for reference. I was assured the new model would work. I had done my homework on this.
It's a bit like real cars. I cant afford a Mercedes, so I bought a Fiesta. Ok it is cheaper and not as good quality, but I still expect it to start in the mornings, I expect the brakes and steering to work and I expect it to pass the MOT's (which it does). If I bought a Fiesta and it wouldn't work then I would be just as annoyed.
I havent returned it to Notrotek as I have swapped many of their parts already with my own. All they will do it replace them back to the original substandard parts and blame me for messing with it. I'm not paying MY money to send this back to them, it's not worth it.
Steve
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is there any pics of this buggy?My buddy Nate was looking @ buying a XRc cause it was super cheap but the yare sold out... but I want to know which one you all are referring too??... then I will tell him too buy something else...
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all you need right here but don't believe any of the garb written [sm=bananahead.gif]just look at the pictures[link]http://www.********.co.uk/XRC2.htm[/link]
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Lol i absolutely love these two ""features"": 3) Heavy duty parts (many metal)
4) Differential with built-in gears
Diff's always have built in gears,otherwise it wouldn't be a diff.
4) Differential with built-in gears
Diff's always have built in gears,otherwise it wouldn't be a diff.