MCD Toe In question!
10-22-2009, 11:14 AM
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MCD Toe In question!
Is it normal for MCD`s to have a massive amount of toe in when you push the suspension all the way down?
When i have my racerunner off of the ground on a stand the wheels are straight then once it`s put on the ground it has slight toe in, but when
i push down on it so the chassis nearly touches the floor the toe in seems extreme is this normal?
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When i have my racerunner off of the ground on a stand the wheels are straight then once it`s put on the ground it has slight toe in, but when
i push down on it so the chassis nearly touches the floor the toe in seems extreme is this normal?
Thanks in advance
Guy
10-22-2009, 11:19 AM
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RE: MCD Toe In question!
Toe-in on the front and rear end?? Who knows I have a MCD Rally and my assembly instructions were very vague. I went out in my workshop and pressed on my suspension and I did not notice an increase in toe end. If your car handle good I would not worry about it maybe it was designed to work that way???
10-22-2009, 11:25 AM
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RE: MCD Toe In question!
Yeh, it's normal, and it's caused by the fact that the steering arms are pushing the sides out. I guess he means front. You should always set geometry with the suspension under normal load.
By the way, one degree of toe out each side at the front. 2 degrees toe in each side at the back. Nice turn in, and reasonable straight line stability.
By the way, one degree of toe out each side at the front. 2 degrees toe in each side at the back. Nice turn in, and reasonable straight line stability.
10-22-2009, 11:38 AM
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RE: MCD Toe In question!
Front/rear, makes no difference. Same thing, the rear has 'steering arms' as well, just they're fixed solid. It's normal because the length of the arm changes at a different rate than these braces.
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RE: MCD Toe In question!
Borley try an experiment on your road course run your car with reduced toe in observe how it handles and have some one time you , then adjust your toe in back to its original setting run the same course again observe how your car handles , have someone time you compare the results to see which setup is the fastest and handles the best.
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RE: MCD Toe In question!
Hi Foxy mines the evo 3 it has different wishbones, but probably has the same effect. The funny thing is when i push my front down it causes no toe in, i will post some pics give me 10 mins lol
Thanks
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10-22-2009, 12:26 PM
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RE: MCD Toe In question!
Hi Foxy, don`t know if it`s your settings as i can see them on my PC, which doesn`t mean other people can see them, but just looked at my ipod touch and they are displaying them on there as well when i view this site.
Anyone else not seeing them?
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Anyone else not seeing them?
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10-22-2009, 01:27 PM
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RE: MCD Toe In question!
As they say a picture speaks a thousand words thanks Clive
The turnbuckle mounted from the chassis to the hub was mounted on top of my hub lol
Once put underneath the hub problem solved. I did buy it 2nd hand and stripped it and i thought put it back together the same, so may of been my fault , probably was.
Many thanks again, thank god for these forums
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The turnbuckle mounted from the chassis to the hub was mounted on top of my hub lolOnce put underneath the hub problem solved. I did buy it 2nd hand and stripped it and i thought put it back together the same, so may of been my fault , probably was.
Many thanks again, thank god for these forums
Guy
10-22-2009, 02:16 PM
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RE: MCD Toe In question!
ORIGINAL: borley1863
Hi again heres pics:
Under no load:
Under Load (My Foot):
Thanks Again
Guy
Hi again heres pics:
Under no load:
Under Load (My Foot):
Thanks Again
Guy
10-22-2009, 03:04 PM
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RE: MCD Toe In question!
look im really not trying to be an ass here but why on earth have you at least 4 new recent threads started up about mcd problems???
why dont you stick to what your saying to me & also keep all in one thread
or maybe you like the sound of your own voice a lot<hr />
why dont you stick to what your saying to me & also keep all in one thread
or maybe you like the sound of your own voice a lot<hr />
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RE: MCD Toe In question!
As sparky says my threads are qite far apart i wouldn`t start a new thread when i have multiple threads on the same page like some.
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RE: MCD Toe In question!
but reading the thread you obviously had a unique and lejit problem.....
so moral of my post is thats what the forums are for i guess.nothing wrong with putting up a thread.
some people prefer reading through a short new thread than 100page long one.....
best of luck sorting it out
so moral of my post is thats what the forums are for i guess.nothing wrong with putting up a thread.
some people prefer reading through a short new thread than 100page long one.....
best of luck sorting it out
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RE: MCD Toe In question!
I can see the pics now, don't know why I couldn't before.
Anyway, yeh, that is definitely not normal. There must be something wrong with those linkages.
Anyway, yeh, that is definitely not normal. There must be something wrong with those linkages.
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RE: MCD Toe In question!
ORIGINAL: borley1863
As they say a picture speaks a thousand words thanks Clive The turnbuckle mounted from the chassis to the hub was mounted on top of my hub lol
Once put underneath the hub problem solved. I did buy it 2nd hand and stripped it and i thought put it back together the same, so may of been my fault , probably was.
Many thanks again, thank god for these forums
Guy
As they say a picture speaks a thousand words thanks Clive
The turnbuckle mounted from the chassis to the hub was mounted on top of my hub lolOnce put underneath the hub problem solved. I did buy it 2nd hand and stripped it and i thought put it back together the same, so may of been my fault , probably was.
Many thanks again, thank god for these forums
Guy
A couple of you missed my reply it was a linkage mistake, all sorted now!
Thanks
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10-23-2009, 08:36 AM
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RE: MCD Toe In question!
Hi, just looked at some pics i took before i took it apart, it wsn`t my doing They had been on wrong since i received it, thought i had put everything back together the way i found it
Thanks
Guy
They had been on wrong since i received it, thought i had put everything back together the way i found itThanks
Guy
