The new Tornado sport jet
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RE: The new Tornado sport jet
my tornado jet arrived the other day I opened up the box.I inspected everything and the quality of the airframe and the hardware was great. I called Henry and decided to let them build this jet for me since it is my first jet and i want it done correct.Henry at Modellbau USA said they would take care of everything and help me out 100%.at a fair price. That to me is customer satifaction100%.Thank you Bob.
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Mike,
best i can do on tickets are to the local movies accommodations can be provided though. to all the others who PM'd, nowhere did i say i was going to hire someone to assemble the jet, and let's face it, if you can't read that post and figure that out, you're not the person i want assembling mine in the first place.
Mike,
best i can do on tickets are to the local movies accommodations can be provided though. to all the others who PM'd, nowhere did i say i was going to hire someone to assemble the jet, and let's face it, if you can't read that post and figure that out, you're not the person i want assembling mine in the first place.
What film are we going to see might be worth the trip.
Anyone who builds an airframe for you would have to be exemplary in their work judging by the standards of your past builds, problem is looking through those that have posted on here there are a lot of newbies with lots of enthusiasm who get ahead of themselves, until someone with turbine experience does a build or gives a critic we are not in place to make an informed decision on this airframe. Don't get me wrong, I applaud the introduction of a inexpensive trainer jet and can only wish Henry continued success with this and his other projects, but as we know even the most expensive composite airframes have their problems in the build and need beefing up in areas for specific needs, I await with interest any informed comments.
Mike
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Has anybody mounted the K80 yet? if so any pics?
I am starting my build and will post some pics tonight of my fuel system install and myequipmenttray made a carbon fiber.
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Andrew
I am starting my build and will post some pics tonight of my fuel system install and myequipmenttray made a carbon fiber.
thanks
Andrew
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RE: The new Tornado sport jet
Yes, I am using a Jr1222Power-safereceiver.
with 4Satellitereceivers that are going to have their Antennaspolarizedindifferentorientationsand distances from each other.
mounted through out thefuselage.
with 4Satellitereceivers that are going to have their Antennaspolarizedindifferentorientationsand distances from each other.
mounted through out thefuselage.
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No not for confidence its just what I had here to use. I would use a Ar7000 also, I have never had a issue with JR or Spektrum stuff in all of my 20 or so planes and helis.
anyway here are some pics from my build. I started with the fuel system. Installed aSullivansuper heavy clunk. Then aSullivanaluminiumstopper with th large brass tubes.
anyway here are some pics from my build. I started with the fuel system. Installed aSullivansuper heavy clunk. Then aSullivanaluminiumstopper with th large brass tubes.
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RE: The new Tornado sport jet
Also installed the UAT or BVT as some call them. I also installed a bulkhead fitting in the bottom of thefuselage for the tank vent, this is also were I will hook up my taxi tank.
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How did you get the metal cap on the main tank to stay?
Mine does not have a lip, is flat/flush ... therefore nothing to compress on to?
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Greg
Mine does not have a lip, is flat/flush ... therefore nothing to compress on to?
Thanks
Greg
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RE: The new Tornado sport jet
It's is a rubber stopper that goes inside the hole in the tank. The stopper has a screwthroughit to a treaded plate inside the tank. When tightened it compress the rubber and locks it self in there.
on with the build..
on with the build..
I used 6mm Festo for all fuel lines from the clunk to the UAT, to the vent, then right before the fuel pump I reduced it down to 4mm Festo.
I then installed the Fuel filter, Fuel solenoid, 4mm festo ball valve (fuel shut off),Gas solenoid. I am not doing an on board Gas system so I installed a 4mm Festo check
valve right before the Gas solenoid. I installed the ECU, Receiverbut nosatellitesyet.I am using a KingTech K80e I haven't mounted it yet but I started to fit it on the airframe.
Installed the air tank with large O ring's around it, makes it a snug fit then I will either use thin CA on the O ring to the wood or Epoxy, along with a wire through the 2 holes to hold the air tank in.
I then installed the Fuel filter, Fuel solenoid, 4mm festo ball valve (fuel shut off),Gas solenoid. I am not doing an on board Gas system so I installed a 4mm Festo check
valve right before the Gas solenoid. I installed the ECU, Receiverbut nosatellitesyet.I am using a KingTech K80e I haven't mounted it yet but I started to fit it on the airframe.
Installed the air tank with large O ring's around it, makes it a snug fit then I will either use thin CA on the O ring to the wood or Epoxy, along with a wire through the 2 holes to hold the air tank in.
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RE: The new Tornado sport jet
Here is a pic and a link to the one I used. S478 red or S469 Blue.
http://www.sullivanproducts.com/Fuel...sMainFrame.htm
http://www.sullivanproducts.com/Fuel...sMainFrame.htm
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Sullivan so called gas stoppers supplied in the UK are not compatible with petrol or kerosene they eventually disintegrate, the only compatible stoppers I have found are the Dubro red ones.
For those that don't know, the brass tubes on any fuel fitting need to be barbed and wire tied or they will come off no matter how tight the fit is, for a barb I use a piece of wire paper clip soldered to the tube, then double wrap the wire around the Tygon and twist until the wire necks into the tubing, forgive me to those that already know this.
Mike
For those that don't know, the brass tubes on any fuel fitting need to be barbed and wire tied or they will come off no matter how tight the fit is, for a barb I use a piece of wire paper clip soldered to the tube, then double wrap the wire around the Tygon and twist until the wire necks into the tubing, forgive me to those that already know this.
Mike
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On the contrary Mike I think as this is very much being bought by first time Jet pilots then any info like this will be useful.
On that point arockwell I see you have your UAT vertical, the norm tends to be to have it inclined as it keeps any trapped air in the top corner, not really a big fan of UAT's myself much prefer the centre pickup header tank system, but do have one in my Boomerang, see picture below.
Also something I have posted many times before but feel it is so useful I will post it again
I always fit a little 2oz overflow tank to the vent pipe, it has a number of advantages.
Stops overfilled fuel ending up on the ground, it acts as a onboard taxi tank as you can fill it up and the turbine will empty it first before starting on the main tank so you always takeoff on full tanks.
It also prevents you or your car getting covered in fuel when you carry the model and fuel normally runs out the vent pipe.
It is simple to make and light, the vent pipe from your main tank, goes to a length of brass tube which goes to the bottom of the vent tank. The vent pipe to the outside of the aeroplane then just comes from the top of the tank.
See tank fitted to my Boomerang below and the drawing (told you I posted it before!)
On that point arockwell I see you have your UAT vertical, the norm tends to be to have it inclined as it keeps any trapped air in the top corner, not really a big fan of UAT's myself much prefer the centre pickup header tank system, but do have one in my Boomerang, see picture below.
Also something I have posted many times before but feel it is so useful I will post it again
I always fit a little 2oz overflow tank to the vent pipe, it has a number of advantages.
Stops overfilled fuel ending up on the ground, it acts as a onboard taxi tank as you can fill it up and the turbine will empty it first before starting on the main tank so you always takeoff on full tanks.
It also prevents you or your car getting covered in fuel when you carry the model and fuel normally runs out the vent pipe.
It is simple to make and light, the vent pipe from your main tank, goes to a length of brass tube which goes to the bottom of the vent tank. The vent pipe to the outside of the aeroplane then just comes from the top of the tank.
See tank fitted to my Boomerang below and the drawing (told you I posted it before!)
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Hi Xairflyer,
You say that you are not a big fan of a UAT, but in this photo you just posted of your 2.oz catch tank, you have a BVM UAT installed in this setup. Is this before you went to not using the UAT? I like this Idea of this little catch tank. How much time do you get when using it as a taxi tank? Do you have more room to install a larger tank? That is what I have done. Here in the States we generally taxi out to the take off position before we remove the header tank.
Larry
You say that you are not a big fan of a UAT, but in this photo you just posted of your 2.oz catch tank, you have a BVM UAT installed in this setup. Is this before you went to not using the UAT? I like this Idea of this little catch tank. How much time do you get when using it as a taxi tank? Do you have more room to install a larger tank? That is what I have done. Here in the States we generally taxi out to the take off position before we remove the header tank.
Larry
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arockwell,
I suggest that you relocate your in-line filter. The way you have it makes it easy for it to trap air. It's best to not hard mount the filter and to mount it vertically with fuel coming in the bottom. When you first fill your fuel system tap the filter several times until all the air is out of it. Then do it again with the engine running. I had a flame out and lost a plane on its maiden because of failure to do that.
Joe
I suggest that you relocate your in-line filter. The way you have it makes it easy for it to trap air. It's best to not hard mount the filter and to mount it vertically with fuel coming in the bottom. When you first fill your fuel system tap the filter several times until all the air is out of it. Then do it again with the engine running. I had a flame out and lost a plane on its maiden because of failure to do that.
Joe
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A picture speaks a thousand words.
Sorry to interrupt, but I had this picture handy showing the difference between a centre pick up header tank and the normal type of bag UAT.
Mike
Sorry to interrupt, but I had this picture handy showing the difference between a centre pick up header tank and the normal type of bag UAT.
Mike