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Old 11-04-2010, 01:11 PM
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Nope no delay, The planes are still do here around the 20th of December. If they arrive then we will expect to start shipping out orders shortly after.
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:25 PM
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Great looking forward to it as my second turbine plane.

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Are the wheel wells closed in?

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Not sure what you mean by closed in but if you look at the pictures of the wing that I posted on page two I think you can see exactly how everything is before covering
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Hi Rich,

If you look at the photo on their web site, it comes with plastic inserts for all three wheel wells....

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We do supply plastic inserts but we do not use them there is no need for them. It is very well closed off in there. Please see the pictures below it might help
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This is a minor point, but after looking at the picture in post #165 I am reminded of one of my pet peeves after building several ARF's. Rather than pre-cutting openings in equipment trays, why don't they just leave them blank? Each time I ended up removing and throwing away the supplied equipment tray then making my own to accommodate the desired layout for my chosen servo sizes, switches, valves, propane can, etc.

Every set-up is different. It also seems it would be cheaper for the manufacturer to supply a solid piece of plywood and let the customer cut it out to fit his needs. I'm not trying to be picayune here; I just don't understand the wisdom behind what manufacturers typically do.
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I agree with you but what you what you might not realize is that not every body has the machinery or the talent to make this up on there own. What seems simple to you can be very difficult for others. I have to make the ARF for the average person with average equipment, and not for somebody that like to re-design there own thing. We have over 80 people on the list for this plane 10 of them are having us build it and test fly it form them and give them an airplane ready to go. So I am sorry if this causes any headache for you.
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This is what I mean about closed in wheel wells
This is the mod I did to my Reaction ARF X so the wing would not go BOOM in flight, also taped the LE per the directive, but that's another story
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In that case no they are not, we supply plastic inserts you can use but like I said we do not use anything and the wing has not gone boom and I have over 200 flights on the demo plane
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In that case no they are not, we supply plastic inserts you can use but like I said we do not use anything and the wing has not gone boom and I have over 200 flights on the demo plane
Understood, Thanks

The reaction wing is a big open area and it is wise to close in the wheel wells
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The wheel well is open but there are to many obstructions in the way. The 2 5/8 main wheel for the kit takes up a lot of the space so not to much air goes any were.
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More pics of what's in the box!!!
If you look at the bottom of the pic, there appears to be plastic inserts to cover in the wheel wells..
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Today i got to see the prototype up close and it looks very nice evething ready to drop in place even a beginner can put this one together and the workmanship is great nice work guys
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I agree with you but what you what you might not realize is that not every body has the machinery or the talent to make this up on there own. What seems simple to you can be very difficult for others. I have to make the ARF for the average person with average equipment, and not for somebody that like to re-design there own thing. We have over 80 people on the list for this plane 10 of them are having us build it and test fly it form them and give them an airplane ready to go. So I am sorry if this causes any headache for you.
No, Henry, it doesn't cause me any headache. I was just wondering why the ARF manufacturers choose to do it that way. As I look at various build threads for a particular plane it seems that no two are laid out the same. This is because everyone who's been in this hobby for very long has their favorite equipment and favorite way of doing things.

There's nothing complicated about cutting a couple of holes in a piece of plywood. Anyone putting one of these together should have a drill and a saw at their disposal, and if they can't handle that then there is no way I'd trust them to connect control surfaces, plumb a fuel system, install radio equipment, etc. I guess I'm thinking of the guy putting the plane together, not the guy who needs to hire someone else to do it for him.

I wasn't trying to be critical. I understand that you are trying to keep it simple for a beginner. You have the right product at the right time, and the right price. I've got about 200 flights on a Falcon 120. If anything happens to it I'll probably be ordering a Tornado.

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Old 11-05-2010, 12:11 PM
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Thats not problem if there is anything else that I can do please feel free to contact me
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Old 11-05-2010, 04:53 PM
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Hi Henry,

Any chance that the kit can come pre-hinged for those that require it ?

Whilst I have built many kits with success I would have to say that hinging is my least favourite job during the build.
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Old 11-05-2010, 06:06 PM
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Henry are you gonna sell individual parts that fit on the falcon ,like fuel tank. If yes how much would you sell the fuel tank.

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We have 4 builders on staff that can perform any work that is needed for prices please contact me directly. As for parts for the Falcon we are in now way associated to the Falcon 120 so we can not supply parts for that airplane.
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I understand the plane looks like the FALCON 120, but I have mentioned several times THIS AIRPLANE IS DIFFERENT STRUCTURALLY. We construct the kit in our factory in Ecuador and final assembly is accomplished in South Florida. Every single kit is inspected before it leaves our warehouse for any defects. Like in any mass production of products there are always some that have blemishes or defects, we stand behind our product and do our best to keep that down to a minimum. That is why we have people that go through every kit before it is shipped to insure that they are ok before it leaves our warehouse. We are stocking a full line of spar parts,coveringandhardwareto try to give the best customer service to our clients. I have attached a few picture of the airplane before it gets painted and covered for you to see the quality of our work.
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Henry

Can you get a full 90deg deflection of the flap to act as an airbrake? don't take this personally, but before you say it does not need it, on the field I fly from LOL I do, combined with reflexed up ailerons it gives me a steep approuch onto our very short patch over the trees.

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Old 11-05-2010, 08:26 PM
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HAHAHA LOL that was a good one. Actually yes you can get a full 90 degrees but you will have to use Robart Hinges instead of the Plastic with pin type that comes with the kit. Then you can get very close to full 90. It takes a little bit of rigging since the they are designed to be flaps not speed brakes but it can definitely can be done. Hope that helps
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Henry

Just came accross this forum this morning, thumbs up for the good work, can't wait to see this flying, I have the right turbine waiting for it.

Sent you an email regarding shipping.[:-]

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