WINTER BUILDING PUT ON HOLD thanks FAA
12-08-2010, 04:34 PM
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WINTER BUILDING PUT ON HOLD thanks FAA
Well this FAA stuff is crap. I'm uneasy at buying a new jet kit to build. I Would have already had it if it weren't for these idiots.
Anyone else holding new purchases for this issue????? What to do!! What to do?? I sure would hate to end up with an expensive paper weight!!!!
maybe I'll get into boats, but then the guvment would declair international waters and we have to get out.
Anyone else holding new purchases for this issue????? What to do!! What to do?? I sure would hate to end up with an expensive paper weight!!!!
maybe I'll get into boats, but then the guvment would declair international waters and we have to get out.
12-08-2010, 04:39 PM
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It's not just you jet guys, I planned to build my first kit this winter (a blue jay kaos) but don't want to "waste" the time and money just to find out the new restriction have sucked the fun out of my HOBBY!
12-08-2010, 04:42 PM
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For me, its not just the future of my modeling, its the future of my son's as well. I'm not willing to just sit there and let this go buy, for either of our sakes. If the NPRM comes out with things that are detrimental to jet flying, then I'll do whatever I can to help get it changed. I prefer to remain confident that we'll be able to influence the process to keep our freedom to pursue the hobby as we have done safely and responsibly in the past.
I'm working on repainting my Euro and F-15, building a Turbinator with my son, and getting back to my Ziroli Panther and BVM Mig projects.
Don't give up and roll over, keep abreast of the process and commit yourselves to help out when necessary as much as you can to keep our hobby alive and well. If we all do that, we'll be OK. If we all throw up our hands and give in, we'll get what we deserve.
Bob
12-08-2010, 04:51 PM
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ORIGINAL: rhklenke
For me, its not just the future of my modeling, its the future of my son's as well. I'm not willing to just sit there and let this go buy, for either of our sakes. If the NPRM comes out with things that are detrimental to jet flying, then I'll do whatever I can to help get it changed. I prefer to remain confident that we'll be able to influence the process to keep our freedom to pursue the hobby as we have done safely and responsibly in the past.
I'm working on repainting my Euro and F-15, building a Turbinator with my son, and getting back to my Ziroli Panther and BVM Mig projects.
Don't give up and roll over, keep abreast of the process and commit yourselves to help out when necessary as much as you can to keep our hobby alive and well. If we all do that, we'll be OK. If we all throw up our hands and give in, we'll get what we deserve.
Bob
For me, its not just the future of my modeling, its the future of my son's as well. I'm not willing to just sit there and let this go buy, for either of our sakes. If the NPRM comes out with things that are detrimental to jet flying, then I'll do whatever I can to help get it changed. I prefer to remain confident that we'll be able to influence the process to keep our freedom to pursue the hobby as we have done safely and responsibly in the past.
I'm working on repainting my Euro and F-15, building a Turbinator with my son, and getting back to my Ziroli Panther and BVM Mig projects.
Don't give up and roll over, keep abreast of the process and commit yourselves to help out when necessary as much as you can to keep our hobby alive and well. If we all do that, we'll be OK. If we all throw up our hands and give in, we'll get what we deserve.
Bob
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12-08-2010, 04:58 PM
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It's difficult not to give up. I'm a fighter for the cause from way back, but when dealing with the United States whos government is a joke in both republican or democrat. There veiws will only help themselves and or their friends in politics.
Our government is in a downwhird spiral to destruction. China used to be soooooo poor that they couldn't afford to scratch their *****. Now we're borrowing money from them. Thats embarrissing to say the least.
I also just dont want to waste money on something that I'll be able to use for only six months or less.
I applaud you for working on your projects. I too will be doing the same. I want to paint my F-100 this winter and finish servo installation in a CompArf P-51, but was planning on a new build also.
I will do work on what I have but will put new purchases of kits on hold.
Our government is in a downwhird spiral to destruction. China used to be soooooo poor that they couldn't afford to scratch their *****. Now we're borrowing money from them. Thats embarrissing to say the least.
I also just dont want to waste money on something that I'll be able to use for only six months or less.
I applaud you for working on your projects. I too will be doing the same. I want to paint my F-100 this winter and finish servo installation in a CompArf P-51, but was planning on a new build also.
I will do work on what I have but will put new purchases of kits on hold.
12-08-2010, 07:04 PM
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ORIGINAL: Randy M.
When they outlaw flying model planes, I quess I'll be an outlaw.
When they outlaw flying model planes, I quess I'll be an outlaw.
I just ordered a new F-5 from BVM for my winter build. No way I'm going to let rumor and innuendo...or a bunch of government bureaucrats...keep me from building a new jet.
12-08-2010, 07:24 PM
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My guess is that we'll still be flying, however is the sky does fall we'll still have a couple of years.
By the time the FAA Publishes the new rules, they have their public comments on them, take them back to committee for finalization, publish the final date, which includes time for the AMA to get set up to enforce the new rules, I'm estimating 2 to 3 years before its law.
Case in point is Sport Pilot Licenses. All told it took several years to put in place and up and running.
Just my plug nickel.....
End of it KEEP BUILDING!
Jeff
By the time the FAA Publishes the new rules, they have their public comments on them, take them back to committee for finalization, publish the final date, which includes time for the AMA to get set up to enforce the new rules, I'm estimating 2 to 3 years before its law.
Case in point is Sport Pilot Licenses. All told it took several years to put in place and up and running.
Just my plug nickel.....
End of it KEEP BUILDING!
Jeff
12-08-2010, 07:36 PM
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ORIGINAL: Pitts S1S
My guess is that we'll still be flying, however is the sky does fall we'll still have a couple of years.
By the time the FAA Publishes the new rules, they have their public comments on them, take them back to committee for finalization, publish the final date, which includes time for the AMA to get set up to enforce the new rules, I'm estimating 2 to 3 years before its law.
Case in point is Sport Pilot Licenses. All told it took several years to put in place and up and running.
Just my plug nickel.....
End of it KEEP BUILDING!
Jeff
My guess is that we'll still be flying, however is the sky does fall we'll still have a couple of years.
By the time the FAA Publishes the new rules, they have their public comments on them, take them back to committee for finalization, publish the final date, which includes time for the AMA to get set up to enforce the new rules, I'm estimating 2 to 3 years before its law.
Case in point is Sport Pilot Licenses. All told it took several years to put in place and up and running.
Just my plug nickel.....
End of it KEEP BUILDING!
Jeff
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10182873/tm.htm
I will wait until its concrete, until then, theres a Bobcat in the oven and I will fly responsibly and abide by the rules
12-08-2010, 07:46 PM
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I can't see all of RC going down the tubes - not at all.
If anything, I think a lot of what we've had for guidelines before will probably be federal law now. Maybe a few other little tidbits here and there but I'm not giving up on RC. I still see model aviation being an important venue where people can relax, experiment, push their own limits and those of aerodynamics. The sky is not falling. If I had a lot of spare cash I'd be buying cheap RTF projects right now, that's how confident I am.
If anything, I think a lot of what we've had for guidelines before will probably be federal law now. Maybe a few other little tidbits here and there but I'm not giving up on RC. I still see model aviation being an important venue where people can relax, experiment, push their own limits and those of aerodynamics. The sky is not falling. If I had a lot of spare cash I'd be buying cheap RTF projects right now, that's how confident I am.
12-08-2010, 09:29 PM
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ORIGINAL: Pitts S1S
My guess is that we'll still be flying, however is the sky does fall we'll still have a couple of years.
By the time the FAA Publishes the new rules, they have their public comments on them, take them back to committee for finalization, publish the final date, which includes time for the AMA to get set up to enforce the new rules, I'm estimating 2 to 3 years before its law.
Case in point is Sport Pilot Licenses. All told it took several years to put in place and up and running.
Just my plug nickel.....
End of it KEEP BUILDING!
Jeff
My guess is that we'll still be flying, however is the sky does fall we'll still have a couple of years.
By the time the FAA Publishes the new rules, they have their public comments on them, take them back to committee for finalization, publish the final date, which includes time for the AMA to get set up to enforce the new rules, I'm estimating 2 to 3 years before its law.
Case in point is Sport Pilot Licenses. All told it took several years to put in place and up and running.
Just my plug nickel.....
End of it KEEP BUILDING!
Jeff
12-08-2010, 10:44 PM
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RE: WINTER BUILDING PUT ON HOLD thanks FAA
Guys,
Think about this one. If the talking at the FAA has already been done and their plan was to Ice the R/C Jets or any other portion of the hobby in the name of National Security, safety or whatever reasons they would have for shutting us down...Why would they wait until next June or even (as I have heard from reliable sources) push the disclosure date back to sometime next fall... They would sock it to us right now if that was really to be the outcome...Why wait at all to post their rulings?
There would be NO reason for them to wait. In fact, it would seem that the longer it takes for them to post the rulings, the better it sounds for all of us in the long run. Just my .02cents...
I've enjoyed this hobby for the last 40 years, nearly all my life...I have my it one of my life's passions and it will take a lot more than some arbitrary ruling (not even law yet) to make me just throw up my hands and say" Ok, I give up"
I think these penicl pushers are in for the fight of their lives if they mess with this hobby. Let's face it, model aviation has been a national pastime for way too many people. All I can say is when the notice is posted, we have to be ready to do whatever we can to get the regs changed if they are detrimental to our hobby. That'll be the time to do something about it. There's absolutely no reason to worry about something that hasn't even been posted yet.
I have way too much invested in the hobby to quit. I'm just going to remain positive that life and the hobby will go on as it has and that "fear" is not an option for me.
Dan
12-08-2010, 11:20 PM
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I say carry on as you have been but alongside this get fired up and fire up others and create a wave and fight any proposals that may be detrimental to your hobby. Lobby your elected representatives etc. Above all do what you have always done or you will become self defeating.
Dennis
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12-09-2010, 05:22 AM
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ORIGINAL: jp_boud
It's not just you jet guys, I planned to build my first kit this winter (a blue jay kaos) but don't want to ''waste'' the time and money just to find out the new restriction have sucked the fun out of my HOBBY!
It's not just you jet guys, I planned to build my first kit this winter (a blue jay kaos) but don't want to ''waste'' the time and money just to find out the new restriction have sucked the fun out of my HOBBY!
It's like not going to the filed on a cloudy day "Beacause it might rain!"
Snap out of it, and start having fun!
Gerry
(Recovering from shoulder surgery (painful) but only a copouple of weeks away from starting my building season)
12-09-2010, 06:01 AM
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ORIGINAL: PaulD
Chicken Little....
Cooler heads need to prevail here guys.
PaulD
Chicken Little....
Cooler heads need to prevail here guys.
PaulD
12-09-2010, 06:07 AM
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OH OH another sky is falling thread.......YAWN!
Finishing a big BVM F86, getting ready to start on another one, and a BVM F-16 electric here.
DR
Finishing a big BVM F86, getting ready to start on another one, and a BVM F-16 electric here.
DR
