China's J-20 Better Than F-22? Well I do not think so
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Lets see the test,,,,,,,,,,,, Bring it on
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Looks very similar to the new Russian Sukhoi T-50 ....The looks is never the important factor ....what lies under the "hood" is.
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Head-to-head, would the f-22 see the j-20 first and shoot it down before the need to dogfight? Or could they be equally just as stealthy and get within visual contact for a dogfight. I'm not to worried about it, just curious, because we'll have 187 f-22s out there and for all we know china has 1 j-20, plus hardly any experience flying it. We're still what a decade ahead of the game?
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I don't think it looks at all like a T-50. Rather it looks like a Russian Mig 1.42 that's been given the stealth treatment. And not a very good treatment at that due to those canards.
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Surely if they are equally stealthy then they would never have a dog fight because they would not be able to find each other?
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how about this list?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bga06...1&feature=fvwp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bga06...1&feature=fvwp
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Surely if they are equally stealthy then they would never have a dog fight because they would not be able to find each other?
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Surely if they are equally stealthy then they would never have a dog fight because they would not be able to find each other?
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and we would live happily ever after
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Why did i know this was gonna be some ******** video on youtube.... ugh, those guys irk me. But, what experience / back-ground does he/those guys have to make assumptions like the ones in the video?
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Sweet
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Good point John. But human eyes could still play a role, which is why these 5th gen fighters have all these fancy control surfaces and thrust vectoring.
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I think they are both very ugly planes and would never want to model one.
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I think they are both very ugly planes and would never want to model one.
I think they are both very ugly planes and would never want to model one.

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LOL
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I do love the Vulcan
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Love you Brits but except for the spitfire and maybe the eurofighter, you guys have tossed a fair bit of UGLY into the clouds.
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I think they are both very ugly planes and would never want to model one.
I think they are both very ugly planes and would never want to model one.

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Back in the '70's the Brit's latest fighter design wasn't ugly enough for the MoD. So they bought Phantoms...
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Back in the '70's the Brit's latest fighter design wasn't ugly enough for the MoD. So they bought Phantoms...
Back in the '70's the Brit's latest fighter design wasn't ugly enough for the MoD. So they bought Phantoms...

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Good point John. But human eyes could still play a role, which is why these 5th gen fighters have all these fancy control surfaces and thrust vectoring.
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Bear in mind that stealth is not only used so fighters can't see you but also to penetrate enemy air defences during bombing missions. Stealth is like any other form of technology, it might be worthless if both sides have it but if, on that basis, you decide not to bother then you are certainly at a disadvantage. The same can be said about all other forms of technology (jet engines/missiles etc). If we all made an agreement that we would all fly Spitfires to produce an even playing field at low cost, that would be great. Unfortunately the real world isn't like that and technological development is key to maintaining your competetiveness.
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looks pretty cool
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Who cares?
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The REAL question is... do the landing gear work???

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There are degrees of stealth. How stealthy is it compared to the F-22 or F-35, really?
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China can make the J-20 for 10cents on the $ , delivered.
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Love you Brits but except for the spitfire and maybe the eurofighter, you guys have tossed a fair bit of UGLY into the clouds.
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I think they are both very ugly planes and would never want to model one.
I think they are both very ugly planes and would never want to model one.

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LOL!!! That one cracked me up! LOL!!!
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Love you Brits but except for the spitfire and maybe the eurofighter, you guys have tossed a fair bit of UGLY into the clouds.
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I think they are both very ugly planes and would never want to model one.
I think they are both very ugly planes and would never want to model one.

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