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China's J-20 Better Than F-22? Well I do not think so

Old 01-15-2011, 11:56 AM
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Old 01-15-2011, 12:55 PM
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Lets see the test,,,,,,,,,,,, Bring it on
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Old 01-15-2011, 02:32 PM
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Looks very similar to the new Russian Sukhoi T-50 ....The looks is never the important factor ....what lies under the "hood" is.
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Old 01-15-2011, 02:41 PM
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Default RE: China's J-20 Better Than F-22? Well I do not think so

Head-to-head, would the f-22 see the j-20 first and shoot it down before the need to dogfight? Or could they be equally just as stealthy and get within visual contact for a dogfight. I'm not to worried about it, just curious, because we'll have 187 f-22s out there and for all we know china has 1 j-20, plus hardly any experience flying it. We're still what a decade ahead of the game?
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Old 01-15-2011, 04:09 PM
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I don't think it looks at all like a T-50. Rather it looks like a Russian Mig 1.42 that's been given the stealth treatment. And not a very good treatment at that due to those canards.
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Old 01-16-2011, 12:49 PM
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Surely if they are equally stealthy then they would never have a dog fight because they would not be able to find each other?

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Old 01-16-2011, 01:19 PM
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how about this list?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bga06...1&feature=fvwp
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Old 01-16-2011, 01:22 PM
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Surely if they are equally stealthy then they would never have a dog fight because they would not be able to find each other?

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This way no one would "shoot down" anyone
and we would live happily ever after
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Old 01-16-2011, 01:28 PM
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Default RE: China's J-20 Better Than F-22? Well I do not think so

Why did i know this was gonna be some ******** video on youtube.... ugh, those guys irk me. But, what experience / back-ground does he/those guys have to make assumptions like the ones in the video?
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Old 01-16-2011, 02:08 PM
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how about this list?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bga06...1&feature=fvwp
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Good point John. But human eyes could still play a role, which is why these 5th gen fighters have all these fancy control surfaces and thrust vectoring.
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Old 01-16-2011, 03:14 PM
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I think they are both very ugly planes and would never want to model one.
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Old 01-16-2011, 03:46 PM
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I think they are both very ugly planes and would never want to model one.
Love you Brits but except for the spitfire and maybe the eurofighter, you guys have tossed a fair bit of UGLY into the clouds.
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LOL


I do love the Vulcan



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I think they are both very ugly planes and would never want to model one.
Love you Brits but except for the spitfire and maybe the eurofighter, you guys have tossed a fair bit of UGLY into the clouds.
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Old 01-16-2011, 08:27 PM
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Back in the '70's the Brit's latest fighter design wasn't ugly enough for the MoD. So they bought Phantoms...
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Old 01-17-2011, 12:01 AM
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Back in the '70's the Brit's latest fighter design wasn't ugly enough for the MoD. So they bought Phantoms...
NAHHH. I think they had it covered with electric lightnings.
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Old 01-17-2011, 01:22 AM
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Good point John. But human eyes could still play a role, which is why these 5th gen fighters have all these fancy control surfaces and thrust vectoring.
If both planes are really stealthy then not only can the planes not find each other but they cannot be directed by ground control to intercept. It seems to me that there is only any point in having stealth planes when you are the only person with them. They are hugely expensive and not much use when both sides have them. If new and better ways of detecting them are found then again I do not see the point of them.

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Old 01-17-2011, 01:42 AM
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Bear in mind that stealth is not only used so fighters can't see you but also to penetrate enemy air defences during bombing missions. Stealth is like any other form of technology, it might be worthless if both sides have it but if, on that basis, you decide not to bother then you are certainly at a disadvantage. The same can be said about all other forms of technology (jet engines/missiles etc). If we all made an agreement that we would all fly Spitfires to produce an even playing field at low cost, that would be great. Unfortunately the real world isn't like that and technological development is key to maintaining your competetiveness.
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The REAL question is... do the landing gear work???
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Old 01-17-2011, 01:32 PM
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There are degrees of stealth. How stealthy is it compared to the F-22 or F-35, really?
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China can make the J-20 for 10cents on the $ , delivered.
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I think they are both very ugly planes and would never want to model one.
Love you Brits but except for the spitfire and maybe the eurofighter, you guys have tossed a fair bit of UGLY into the clouds.
LOL!!! That one cracked me up! LOL!!!
Buy, remember now....we're on the same side.

I heard this once but forget who said it; There's more planes in the oceans, than submarines in the sky.
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I think they are both very ugly planes and would never want to model one.
Love you Brits but except for the spitfire and maybe the eurofighter, you guys have tossed a fair bit of UGLY into the clouds.
LOL!!! That one cracked me up! LOL!!!
Buy, remember now....we're on the same side.

I heard this once but forget who said it; There's more planes in the oceans, than submarines in the sky.
It seems like the Brits had an issue with straight lines. A lot of their planes had nothing but curves, the Spitfire, Vulcan, Concorde, all their wings had curvy lines. None of that straight line stuff!!!!
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