Century Jet Models F-106 Delta Dart!?!
03-26-2011, 10:03 AM
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Century Jet Models F-106 Delta Dart!?!
Did I miss a thread somewhere? A buddy of mine who is an ex-Six driver from the 87th FIS was asking me what I knew about the Century Jet F-106 … Umm.. nothing? I went over to the CJM site and sure enough there is a listing for an F-106 Delta Dart! I can’t believe I haven’t read a thing about it on any of the usual jet sites. Been waiting for someone to get around to doing one of these again!
CJM’s site seems to be preliminary info but it says they’re doing one around 10th scale, FG Fuse, composite wings, 79” length by 46” span, intended for ICDF, EDF, or Turbine. I shot them an e-mail for more info and got a couple messages back with a bit more info and a bunch of pics (which I hope they don't mind I posted here). The messages basically confirmed what’s on the site and that this is their latest project to be released at the Toledo show. It looks good to me. The pics in white are a couple shots of the plug and some of panel line layout. Looks fairly detailed. The shot in gray was described as full layup of all the airframe parts, internal, stuff, intake ducts, landing gear, etc, all piled on a scale, which came out as 10.25 lbs. They also mentioned that there are external tanks in the works. I’d kind of like to see this… looking for a new EDF project. Maybe I’m going to Toledo after all.
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CJM’s site seems to be preliminary info but it says they’re doing one around 10th scale, FG Fuse, composite wings, 79” length by 46” span, intended for ICDF, EDF, or Turbine. I shot them an e-mail for more info and got a couple messages back with a bit more info and a bunch of pics (which I hope they don't mind I posted here). The messages basically confirmed what’s on the site and that this is their latest project to be released at the Toledo show. It looks good to me. The pics in white are a couple shots of the plug and some of panel line layout. Looks fairly detailed. The shot in gray was described as full layup of all the airframe parts, internal, stuff, intake ducts, landing gear, etc, all piled on a scale, which came out as 10.25 lbs. They also mentioned that there are external tanks in the works. I’d kind of like to see this… looking for a new EDF project. Maybe I’m going to Toledo after all.
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03-26-2011, 07:17 PM
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RE: Century Jet Models F-106 Delta Dart!?!
I received a couple more teaser shots and this draft page of the product info sheet which tells a bit more. I need to see one of these... someone out there must be working on the prototypes?…
03-27-2011, 03:08 AM
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RE: Century Jet Models F-106 Delta Dart!?!
Ron,
Whose F-106 kit were you flying?
I looked at all the F-106 links and incorporated many of the product improvements discussed on this forum. Our basic kit weighs 10.25 pounds with landing gear. I'll post a description of the kit and some major changes in the wing as it is composite and the belly pan is an integral part of the wing. There are pros and cons of having the belly pan integrated as part of the wing. There are 4 spars in the wing: One in the front of the wing, one in the rear of the wing, and two main wing spars straddling the gear doors. Thus, there is no fuselage bulkheads, only a front and rear wing plate.
Cheers.
Whose F-106 kit were you flying?
I looked at all the F-106 links and incorporated many of the product improvements discussed on this forum. Our basic kit weighs 10.25 pounds with landing gear. I'll post a description of the kit and some major changes in the wing as it is composite and the belly pan is an integral part of the wing. There are pros and cons of having the belly pan integrated as part of the wing. There are 4 spars in the wing: One in the front of the wing, one in the rear of the wing, and two main wing spars straddling the gear doors. Thus, there is no fuselage bulkheads, only a front and rear wing plate.
Cheers.
03-27-2011, 03:55 PM
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Hi Bruce [8D],
This is a 1/10 scale (okay semicale) model, worked up long ago by Butch Sickels in TX. I agree a one piece wing can offer some advantages... Probably a similar route along what Usher did with his 1/9 scale design years ago. I decided to go the route of plugin wings, with tube wingspars. I wish mine weighed 10.25!!!
Us Dart fans will be looking fwd to your model!
PS - the speedbrakes help a decent amount. Unfortunately, my rear fin is too tight to squeeze in a drag chute. Now that would be neat. [8D]
This is a 1/10 scale (okay semicale) model, worked up long ago by Butch Sickels in TX. I agree a one piece wing can offer some advantages... Probably a similar route along what Usher did with his 1/9 scale design years ago. I decided to go the route of plugin wings, with tube wingspars. I wish mine weighed 10.25!!!
Us Dart fans will be looking fwd to your model!PS - the speedbrakes help a decent amount. Unfortunately, my rear fin is too tight to squeeze in a drag chute. Now that would be neat. [8D]
03-27-2011, 06:09 PM
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RE: Century Jet Models F-106 Delta Dart!?!
Bob,
With the weight of the plane at 10.25 pounds, you could use a 90mm EDF but a 120 would be better. The turbine intake necks down to 3.5" and the DF/EDF intake has a standard 5.25 inch diameter. We recommend using the air refueling receptacle on EDF powered aircraft as a means of getting additional air over the speed controller.
There is tons of room in the wing belly pan, between the intakes, or in front of the intakes for batteries or jet fuel. As soon as we get back from Toledo, we will make a conformal fuel tank which will be located slight in front of the CG.
When I get time, I will post photos of the wing which is kind of unique. Sure makes building a snap.
Elevons..... The real F-106 had one elevon per side but we are going to split the elevon down the panel line so we can use two separate servos to drive the control surface. After much discussion, we like the redundant servo aspect as we didn't want to lose the jet if a single elevon servo failed.
Servos: Nose gear steering servo is mounted onto the nose gear cam. Rudder servo is mounted in the vertical cavity. Two servos in each wing for elevon control, one servo for gear control, and one servo for the speed brake.
3 Separate air systems: 1. Gear 2. Brakes 3. Speed Brake
We engineer the nose gear door hinge system so the nose gear door goes from close and rotates almost 180 degrees to the open position. If anyone want to know how we did it? Simple, we talked to a Cave Man and he told us how! Seriously, Mike and I kicked it around and he came up with the solution. Simple.
Cheers,
With the weight of the plane at 10.25 pounds, you could use a 90mm EDF but a 120 would be better. The turbine intake necks down to 3.5" and the DF/EDF intake has a standard 5.25 inch diameter. We recommend using the air refueling receptacle on EDF powered aircraft as a means of getting additional air over the speed controller.
There is tons of room in the wing belly pan, between the intakes, or in front of the intakes for batteries or jet fuel. As soon as we get back from Toledo, we will make a conformal fuel tank which will be located slight in front of the CG.
When I get time, I will post photos of the wing which is kind of unique. Sure makes building a snap.
Elevons..... The real F-106 had one elevon per side but we are going to split the elevon down the panel line so we can use two separate servos to drive the control surface. After much discussion, we like the redundant servo aspect as we didn't want to lose the jet if a single elevon servo failed.
Servos: Nose gear steering servo is mounted onto the nose gear cam. Rudder servo is mounted in the vertical cavity. Two servos in each wing for elevon control, one servo for gear control, and one servo for the speed brake.
3 Separate air systems: 1. Gear 2. Brakes 3. Speed Brake
We engineer the nose gear door hinge system so the nose gear door goes from close and rotates almost 180 degrees to the open position. If anyone want to know how we did it? Simple, we talked to a Cave Man and he told us how! Seriously, Mike and I kicked it around and he came up with the solution. Simple.
Cheers,
03-28-2011, 05:21 PM
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RE: Century Jet Models F-106 Delta Dart!?!
John,
I think a P-80 will do the trick. We have designed the plane so when the wing is removed, the turbine and fuel remain in the fuselage. When you see photos of the turbine installed, you will appreciate the engineering that went into the plane.
We painted our Toledo "Six" ADC gray today and tomorrow, internation orange and black paint go on the jet. While drying, the 5th FIS markings in a drone profile get installed and at 6 PM, clear coat. I'll post photos Wednesday for all the enjoy.
The landing gear are turning out like the real plane so they should add a touch of class.
Cheers,
I think a P-80 will do the trick. We have designed the plane so when the wing is removed, the turbine and fuel remain in the fuselage. When you see photos of the turbine installed, you will appreciate the engineering that went into the plane.
We painted our Toledo "Six" ADC gray today and tomorrow, internation orange and black paint go on the jet. While drying, the 5th FIS markings in a drone profile get installed and at 6 PM, clear coat. I'll post photos Wednesday for all the enjoy.
The landing gear are turning out like the real plane so they should add a touch of class.
Cheers,
03-28-2011, 07:24 PM
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RE: Century Jet Models F-106 Delta Dart!?!
Bruce when will it b available
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Here is a photo of the composite wing showing the spars and landing gear block system.
Cheers
Here is a photo of the composite wing showing the spars and landing gear block system.
Cheers
03-31-2011, 05:18 AM
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Thanks for the photos Bruce. What is the total projected weight with gear, tanks, electronics and engine (turbine)? Also, please get some photos with someone next to the plane so I can get a perspective for size. Not some ugly guy from the crowd but a pretty girl.
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Ron S,
Do you know what weight your 106 was? And what turbine did you use? I am about a month away from finishing my 106 and really thought yours flew well.
thanks
Glenn
Do you know what weight your 106 was? And what turbine did you use? I am about a month away from finishing my 106 and really thought yours flew well.
thanks
Glenn
04-01-2011, 08:58 AM
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Hi Glenn,
My 106 weighs around 16 lbs, I believe... I'm not sure where all the weight is. [8D] I know I added some extra glass near the gear doors, and I'm using Bandit retracts, Robart struts, and BV wheels/brakes. I'm also still using NiCds and have not had time/reason to swap them with LiPo/A123, etc.
First 70 or so flights were with a RAM500 in a bypass. It coulda used a bit more thrust, but made for nice flights. I swapped that out with a P-60 in the same bypass, and performance is slightly improved, but drinks a bit more fuel.
A couple pounds more thrust would be ideal. I have no idea how you'd fit a P-80 in it due to the fuselage shape, but if the wing is 1-piece removable, that would perhaps allow for this. Thrustwise, it would be way overkill. Also keep in mind where you need to place the fuel.
I have parts to build another one of these, and I'm sure I will in the future. Could be a future home for my P-70.
My 106 weighs around 16 lbs, I believe... I'm not sure where all the weight is. [8D] I know I added some extra glass near the gear doors, and I'm using Bandit retracts, Robart struts, and BV wheels/brakes. I'm also still using NiCds and have not had time/reason to swap them with LiPo/A123, etc.
First 70 or so flights were with a RAM500 in a bypass. It coulda used a bit more thrust, but made for nice flights. I swapped that out with a P-60 in the same bypass, and performance is slightly improved, but drinks a bit more fuel.
A couple pounds more thrust would be ideal. I have no idea how you'd fit a P-80 in it due to the fuselage shape, but if the wing is 1-piece removable, that would perhaps allow for this. Thrustwise, it would be way overkill. Also keep in mind where you need to place the fuel.
I have parts to build another one of these, and I'm sure I will in the future. Could be a future home for my P-70.
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The plane looked really nice at Toledo. Lots of room behind the cockpit for batteries or fuel. Opening for the canopy would be alittle tight for access to the packs but would certainly work as a battery hatch. Nice panel lines and the scale airbrake was pretty cool too.
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Nice model, too bad they decided to make it to such a small scale.
Now that B-1 Bob is done with the F-105, maybe he can get Butch's plug a make a manly size 106.
Oh well, I can hope!
Jon
Now that B-1 Bob is done with the F-105, maybe he can get Butch's plug a make a manly size 106.
Oh well, I can hope!
Jon
