JoeEagle

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I am just getting ready to order some turbine oil.

seems like The Oil Store has good prices.

Does anyone have experience with The Oil Store as a source or other source recommendations?

looking at what Turbine oll they sell it appears that the marketing department talks about "low coking" properties of some of their oils.

so, i've confirmed that Aeroshell 500, 555 or 560 are all ok. (JetCat motor)

can anyone here share their acutal experience on different "low coking" oils?

thanks

Meesh

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Joe,

I've been using Mobil DTE Lite in my JetCats for almost 3 years.

It's non-carcinogenic and cost about $19.00 a gallon in the gallon containers.

the 5 gallon pails are cheaper yet.

www.mcmaster.com

JoeEagle

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intersting.

does that affect the JetCat Warrenty?

Harley Condra

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I have been using BP 2197 for a few years now. It is an excellent oil.

JoeEagle

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so nobody likes AeroShell??? (:

bcovish

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Been using Aeroshell 500 since day one. Would not use any other. Also, all the jetflyers here in Austin which there are many with the exception of one use Aeroshell 500. We buy it buy the case and share the cost.

Harley Condra

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A few years ago, I had the opportunity to buy several cases of BP 2197 from a damaged freight seller in Salt Lake City, Utah. It cost me $5.00 per quart!
I still have 48 quarts left, and will use it up before I spring for anything else. BP 2197 is the latest and greatest turbine oil from BP.

In the last 14 years, I have used Exxon 2380 (now BP 2380), Aeroshell 500, Mobil Jet II, Castrol, and some USMC issue oil that goes in the FA-18's at Miramar.
If you are going to use turbine oil, make sure it conforms to MIL-PRF-23699 (any letter suffix).
When I was using 2380, I suffered no "coking" problems at all. I think that this problem is over stated.

Aside from the cost, the only thing I find really wrong with turbine oil, is that it is a proven carcinogen. Should you choose to use turbine oil, don't wash your hands with it or drink it, and you will be okay.

Mobil DTE lite is not carcinogenic, and one hell of allot less expensive than turbine oil.

Boomerang1

I exchanged PM's with a Jetcat rep on the subject previously.
Official line - Ze vill use ze recommended oil or ze warranty vill be verboten!

Unofficial line - it works fine & is recommended by Wren anyway & lots of people use it in all brands of turbines.
It would take considerable time & money to test alternative oils for long periods in their engines & they don't seem
to be prepared to do that when 'jet' oil is what they started with works fine.

My opinion: If I was recommending an oil for use in my product in a way the oil manufacturer does not recommend because it causes serious & documented health problems I would be looking at altenatives quick smart before the lawyers come knocking.

I use the DTE light oil with no problems. - John.

rcjetsaok

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DTE Light comes in many flavors.... What is the exact label say ??..... Pruduct #, weight, exact name..... ????

Very intrested in switching to it, but it's a little cofusing looking online... I know they sell it by the 5 gal pail, but so they sell it in quarts/case , gallons ??? Last but not least, where do you buy it ????


Thanks !!!!!!

Danno

figueroa

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See post #2

Richard-RCU

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I have been using Aeroshell 500 in my AMT Netherlands and my Rhino from day one.....no problems what so ever.

rcjetsaok

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You talking to me ?????... That don't tell me nothing.....

Danno

JoeEagle

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Thanks all. very informative.

if i knew how to turn this into a poll i would. i think you have to start from scratch for that.

joe

Greg Wright

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Hey joe, aeroshell 500 is all i use. I just placed an order for a case about two weeks ago from oil-store.com it was delivered in about a weeks time, great service from them and you see how much i fly when your at the field so you make the choice on which oil you use.

bcovish

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I hate polls[:@]

Selleri

Danno this is what one of my DTE using mate sent me when I asked the same question.

rcjetsaok

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Thank you !!! That will help !!!

Danno

smitty1001

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This is what it looks like: you can figure the rest out from here. I have used 5 gallons of it, all motors have been back to the factory after 25 hours on each - they like it. 32oz per 5 gallons. I run other stuff if I am at an event and run out or if i'm bumming
I like to sniff and sniff and sniff my exhaust - huff it really - over and over and over again and I just can't do that unless I run DTE!

http://www.reederdistributors.com/

http://www.reederdistributors.com/data-sheets.html

http://www.exxonmobil.com/pdssearch/search.asp

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lub...DTE_Named.aspx

Go crazy Danno!

BTW - the 5 gallon container is $8x.xx so, it's about $4/qt. AND you can whiff it!

VF84sluggo

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Never mind...re-read Harley's post, covers BP 2380/2197

AFTERBURNER1

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Oil store has good prices and quick delivery to your door. I get a case of Aeroshell 500 every 8 months or so.

Tim Redelman

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All the above..... But more than not.... whatever is cheapest of the brand name oils. LOL! Oil-store.com has Shell, BP, Mobile etc... its a one use deal........ I know its important but I think as long as you use something well known its a one shot deal. Through the bearings one time and out the tailpipe!!! The prices fluctuate regularly so buy accordingly. I always liked the Mobile cause its dark and you can't confuse it with kero that has no oil in it. Flame on!!

Tim

JoeEagle

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AeroShell 500 on the way.

I think i will try the Mobil DTE Lite next time-i cannot believe how inexpensive it is-weird. also its normal application seems to be lubrication in recirculating cooling systems for machine tools, steam and other turbo machinery.

when i was still at the airline, the MX guys offered to just give me 5 gal from their 55gal drums the used to service the AE3007 A1/3 motors on our planes. should have taken them up on it.

Tim, how has the weather been down by you? I am really hating the rainy Chicago weather!!

great info from all. sounds like if it is quality, namebrand type oil (turbine or this DTE stuff) its good to go.

now i just need to go burn some.

JoeEagle

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and just a little more info on DTE Lite

its part of their DTE Named series (vice their numbered series).

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lub...DTE_Named.aspx

bcovish

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good choice

geh3

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I used to use CASTROL TTS but I noticed that that oil caused some bearing stiction on startup causing less than perfect starts ( the starter lanbored to spin the turbine up properly) then I switched to DTE light... SAE10 (ISO 32) and this all went away. Also the carcinogen level is much lower with DTE... I have used it in the following turbines with "0" bearing failures
I use 5% in all...
SIMJET AES 3000 and NEXUS
Jet Central FALCON
Wren 44 TP. 54, 75, 120 and 160

the 44TP is quite a high revving turbine as it the Wren 54... no problems whatsoever