Russian Afterburner Featured at JWM 2011 video
08-08-2011, 11:38 AM
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Russian Afterburner Featured at JWM 2011 video
I was told that this afterburner was attached to a P160SX. It adds 60kg of thrust (a little over 132 lbs) to the thrust of the P160
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS6LCDmvM5U[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS6LCDmvM5U[/youtube]
08-08-2011, 12:41 PM
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RE: Russian Afterburner Featured at JWM 2011 video
ORIGINAL: rcjets_63
Sign me up; I want one. Even if it only adds 6Kg of thrust, I still want one. Can't use it here in the US, but who cares; it will look great on my test bench.
Jim
Sign me up; I want one. Even if it only adds 6Kg of thrust, I still want one. Can't use it here in the US, but who cares; it will look great on my test bench.
Jim
Andy
08-08-2011, 12:49 PM
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RE: Russian Afterburner Featured at JWM 2011 video
ORIGINAL: AndyAndrews
Me too. We need to ask Victor where we can purchase one.
Andy
ORIGINAL: rcjets_63
Sign me up; I want one. Even if it only adds 6Kg of thrust, I still want one. Can't use it here in the US, but who cares; it will look great on my test bench.
Sign me up; I want one. Even if it only adds 6Kg of thrust, I still want one. Can't use it here in the US, but who cares; it will look great on my test bench.
Andy
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08-08-2011, 02:07 PM
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RE: Russian Afterburner Featured at JWM 2011 video
Very impressive, augmented turbojets have an always will be very finicky. Very fine line when controlling EPR (engine pressure ratio) to avoid stalls and blowouts. The modern turbofan made this much easier but still much more control needed than what a non-augmented turbojet needs. One item to note was the lack of any type of secondary cooling or "boundary layer" for cooling of metal parts. Leave it in burner and it would soon look like the incredible pictures of the old J58 (SR-71 engine) where it would look so hot as to almost appear translucent. Good engineering and extreme metals are needed for continued operation.
People like this are what take things to the next level!
A modern 4th generation fighter engine is burning about 1.5 gallons a second or around 30k pounds an hour in full aug. I like how you can see the scale effect of this in the fuel jug he is using and how inefficient an after burning system is.
People like this are what take things to the next level!
A modern 4th generation fighter engine is burning about 1.5 gallons a second or around 30k pounds an hour in full aug. I like how you can see the scale effect of this in the fuel jug he is using and how inefficient an after burning system is.
08-08-2011, 05:40 PM
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RE: Russian Afterburner Featured at JWM 2011 video
ORIGINAL: 03fomoco
Very impressive, augmented turbojets have an always will be very finicky. Very fine line when controlling EPR (engine pressure ratio) to avoid stalls and blowouts. The modern turbofan made this much easier but still much more control needed than what a non-augmented turbojet needs. One item to note was the lack of any type of secondary cooling or ''boundary layer'' for cooling of metal parts. Leave it in burner and it would soon look like the incredible pictures of the old J58 (SR-71 engine) where it would look so hot as to almost appear translucent. Good engineering and extreme metals are needed for continued operation.
People like this are what take things to the next level!
A modern 4th generation fighter engine is burning about 1.5 gallons a second or around 30k pounds an hour in full aug. I like how you can see the scale effect of this in the fuel jug he is using and how inefficient an after burning system is.
Very impressive, augmented turbojets have an always will be very finicky. Very fine line when controlling EPR (engine pressure ratio) to avoid stalls and blowouts. The modern turbofan made this much easier but still much more control needed than what a non-augmented turbojet needs. One item to note was the lack of any type of secondary cooling or ''boundary layer'' for cooling of metal parts. Leave it in burner and it would soon look like the incredible pictures of the old J58 (SR-71 engine) where it would look so hot as to almost appear translucent. Good engineering and extreme metals are needed for continued operation.
People like this are what take things to the next level!
A modern 4th generation fighter engine is burning about 1.5 gallons a second or around 30k pounds an hour in full aug. I like how you can see the scale effect of this in the fuel jug he is using and how inefficient an after burning system is.
oh but what a kick in the pants!!!! I wish you all could experience what its like to light 35K pounds of thrust per motor under your butt... what a rush... very dragster like...
08-08-2011, 08:34 PM
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RE: Russian Afterburner Featured at JWM 2011 video
ORIGINAL: AndyAndrews
I was told that this afterburner was attached to a P160SX. It adds 60kg of thrust (a little over 132 lbs) to the thrust of the P160
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS6LCDmvM5U[/youtube]
I was told that this afterburner was attached to a P160SX. It adds 60kg of thrust (a little over 132 lbs) to the thrust of the P160
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS6LCDmvM5U[/youtube]
Hi Andy.
That is the one year old video.
Did you see the real thing at the JWM ?
I was told that the guy dropped the project because of technical issues and cost.
08-09-2011, 12:48 AM
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That is impressive the blue burn and reliable ignition is not easy to achieve for sure. Fantastic achievement. I think 60Kg may be lost in translation (probably 60N) but the visual effect is priceless....
08-09-2011, 05:28 AM
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RE: Russian Afterburner Featured at JWM 2011 video
"Now we're sucking diesel" as the Irish Farmer said !
The drop in fuel level in the tank was alarming.
The drop in fuel level in the tank was alarming.
08-09-2011, 10:15 AM
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Who says you can't use it here in the USA?
Tim
Who says you can't use it here in the USA?
Tim
I don't know if you're a waiver holder or not (I didn't go look), but if you are, you should already know.
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08-09-2011, 11:11 AM
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Ah, ok I understand.
I'm not a waiver holder, not likely to ever be one. I wasn't aware of the requirement to have a waiver to fly a turbine outside of the sphere of the AMA. Can the AMA keep me from buying and flying a turbine or an afterburner? If so how?
just asking,
Tim
I'm not a waiver holder, not likely to ever be one. I wasn't aware of the requirement to have a waiver to fly a turbine outside of the sphere of the AMA. Can the AMA keep me from buying and flying a turbine or an afterburner? If so how?
just asking,
Tim
08-09-2011, 11:20 AM
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RE: Russian Afterburner Featured at JWM 2011 video
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Ah, ok I understand.
I'm not a waiver holder, not likely to ever be one. I wasn't aware of the requirement to have a waiver to fly a turbine outside of the sphere of the AMA. Can the AMA keep me from buying and flying a turbine or an afterburner? If so how?
just asking,
Tim
Ah, ok I understand.
I'm not a waiver holder, not likely to ever be one. I wasn't aware of the requirement to have a waiver to fly a turbine outside of the sphere of the AMA. Can the AMA keep me from buying and flying a turbine or an afterburner? If so how?
just asking,
Tim