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Old 01-14-2012, 01:06 PM
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None of then are hard to fly.

It is the point where you want them to stop flying but still be flyable that is hard on some.

As was mentioned repeatedly above, once you develop the skill set for your jet, AND get it set up properly, none of them are hard to fly.
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Years ago I had a Byron Corsair and it flew about as easy as you could have a WWII fighter be. At one of the Byron shows back in the day guys would come up and ask how do you still have that, those things fly awful????. Just goes to show you that everyone has their own idea of what is or is not easy to fly. Now forgiving, that is another talk show.
Old 01-14-2012, 04:40 PM
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Any jet not setup properly.

Is any model really that hard to fly once sorted?? Look at the post above re the Gripen as proof.
So true because I use to think my F-18C was a handful hard until we change the C/G, what a differences, even comes in slower than my Euro.
Just curious...what F-18C and what was the CG move (for or aft)?
Skymaster F-18C and C/G was moved Aft to the front main wing support.
Old 01-15-2012, 05:59 AM
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British lightning.
Based on what evidence? I have seen several fly perfectly sweetly.

Based on the fact that I'm allowed to my opinion.
Old 01-15-2012, 06:56 AM
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Lockheed F104 Starfighter flown WITHOUT the tip tanks.

Ask me how I know this.
Hope this isnt the case, im in the midst of purchasing an Avonds F104 ...[X(]

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Old 01-15-2012, 09:13 AM
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Just remember to always fly with the tip tanks on and you'll be fine.
Old 01-15-2012, 02:44 PM
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British lightning.
Based on what evidence? I have seen several fly perfectly sweetly.

Based on the fact that I'm allowed to my opinion.
Yes you are entitled to your opinion. But what is it based upon?
Old 01-16-2012, 04:02 PM
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My vote is a mig 21, but it comes down to wing loading of course.

Mig-21 is basically a lawn dart with an engine in it.

Just to add, I think the me-262 is the jet with the hardest take off.
Old 01-18-2012, 11:22 AM
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Lockheed F104 Starfighter flown WITHOUT the tip tanks.

Ask me how I know this.
Hope this isnt the case, im in the midst of purchasing an Avonds F104 ...[X(]

Scott.
Mine was light at 14 1/2 lbs dry and was a dream to fly with the tanks on.

I have seen two that were significantly heavier and both flew well.

The only quirk is a tendancy to have a severe dutch roll if slowed up too much on landing. This was more noticeable if the recommended landing flap setting was used, mine seemed to be easier to land on take off flap. On full flap I needed to power up and really drive it in and on to the ground at speed to avoid the roll.
Old 08-24-2013, 09:26 PM
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Ive got the fb mig21... she is such a nice flyer.. just fast!!!!!
Old 08-25-2013, 01:27 AM
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Both Avonds 104 and FB MiG-21 fly well with proper CG. Actually I prefer the 104 quite a lot in means of simplicity of construction and the tiptanks help understanding its attitude in the sky. My MiG came down in a spin in hard tailwind when only one main gear came out. But I think none of these jets are as difficult to fly like F5D electric pylon models on a course....

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Old 08-25-2013, 05:03 AM
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HI, a dark jet, flying in a south field, that costs a lot of mula.
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Old 08-25-2013, 05:37 AM
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I've had both the Avonds F-104 and the FB Mig-21. Both fly extremely well, both hard to see due to the short wingspan, but both easy to land with big nose high finals. Proper mixing in the Mig make it a real ***** cat.....a really fast ***** cat.
Old 08-25-2013, 05:59 AM
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I think just about anyone with good flying experience can "fly" just about any jet. IMO where the expertise comes in is the landing...just my 2cents
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Old 08-25-2013, 08:32 AM
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I would think an A4 would be squirrely? I always thought the BVM F4's were supposed to be nice flying jets? At least the ones I saw at MissAfterburner, flew awesome!

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Old 08-25-2013, 01:54 PM
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Combat Models F-15 Pusher. If you could fly one of those, you could fly anything with wings.
Old 08-26-2013, 04:52 AM
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Any jet i'm flying!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 08-26-2013, 10:18 AM
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a lot of the internal combustion ducted fan models. Many were underpowered and flying on the edge of stall right after takeoff and throughout the flight... too rich, or too lean and then end up deadstick a lot. Any jet with short wings that didn't glide... that was the hardest jet to fly.
Old 08-26-2013, 11:03 AM
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I have yet to make a decent landing with my 4 meter U-2 in the seven years I've owned it. It stalls abruptly, bounces on the main strut and belly flops on to the runway everytime. The only reason the airplane survives is it's stalling at about 15 KTS with little damage. Other than that it's easy..
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Old 08-22-2015, 10:10 AM
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I just picked up a FB Mig-21. Where did you have your CG at?
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Dornier Jet. I had a FB Mig. There is a good thread on RCU we had a few years back. Its a great flying jet with no bad habits. I had the CG per instructions and had no problems.....other than I dont remember the number. Questions? I will be glad to help make this a successful project. Let me know if you need anything.
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Thanks for the reply 777. I picked this up used so it has flown before. Previous owner had RTI turbine in it. Think around 30 lbs. I had a K-180 laying around so was going to cram that in there. Doesn't weigh anymore and has gobs more power. Just don't think I will be using full throttle for anything but takeoff. 40 lbs thrust. Plus will get horrible gas mileage. One thing I don't like is the flimsy gear mounts so may
ok into trying to beef them up some. I'm off grass runway 600' so plan on going over to airport until I get comfortable with it. From what it sounds like as menacing as it looks, it's a real pleasure to fly. Other than keeping oriented with it.
Where you at on 777? I'm over at JetBlue A320.
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B52 - if built scale with spoilers instead of ailerons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPGFaXqzitc

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Old 08-22-2015, 12:20 PM
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UAL...professional 320 FO. I flew mine with a Super Eagle. A 180 will be supersonic if you dont dial it down quite a bit.
Old 08-22-2015, 01:45 PM
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Fbjets.com has manual to download. Cg, throws.etc all listed.
Old 08-22-2015, 04:43 PM
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So far for me it's a small A7. Only thing it does well is fly straight and fast. Inverted is a handfull rudder input sucks crosswinds suck and landings suck....


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